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Author Topic: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"  (Read 25969 times)

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Offline northernguy

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Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« on: February 17, 2011, 03:54:06 PM »
Not, of course, that I'd consider Beibs an expert source on world healthcare delivery models.  ;)

The Canadian-born Bieber never plans on becoming an American citizen. "You guys are evil," he jokes. "Canada's the best country in the world." He adds, "We go to the doctor and we don't need to worry about paying him, but here, your whole life, you're broke because of medical bills. My bodyguard's baby was premature, and now he has to pay for it. In Canada, if your baby's premature, he stays in the hospital as long as he needs to, and then you go home."
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2011, 05:56:39 PM »
Though he makes good points, I cannot take him seriously until he gets a real haircut, and develops a body that doesn't resemble that of a pre-pubescent girl.

CaptCarl (who considers himself lucky to never have heard anything ever sung by this particular Twink du-Jour)
« Last Edit: February 17, 2011, 05:58:44 PM by CaptCarl »
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2011, 06:09:45 PM »
Though he makes good points, I cannot take him seriously until he gets a real haircut, and develops a body that doesn't resemble that of a pre-pubescent girl.

CaptCarl (who considers himself lucky to never have heard anything ever sung by this particular Twink du-Jour)



(snicker)  :)          In the upcoming issue of Rolling Stone, he shows a "little shoulder"



Sorry northernguy.  I didn't click on( notice) your link to show the Rolling stone cover   :P


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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2011, 06:14:09 PM »
The Beib's also said he doesn't believe in abortion even in the case of rape.

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2011, 07:44:30 PM »
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I really don't believe in abortion," Bieber says. "It's like killing a baby?" When pressed about abortion when the pregnancy is the result of rape, Bieber says: "Um. Well, I think that's really sad, but everything happens for a reason. I guess I haven't been in that position, so I wouldn't be able to judge that."
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2011, 07:52:49 PM »
This just in!

Bieber get's a boner!


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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2011, 07:55:31 PM »
Now, isn't that special!   He with him vienna sausage. :)
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2011, 07:56:04 PM »
Ahh...to be a twink again...
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2011, 08:01:46 PM »
         In the upcoming issue of Rolling Stone, he shows a "little shoulder"
http://www.popeater.com/2011/02/16/justin-bieber-rolling-stone-sex-abortion/

  Yeah a "little shoulder" is a perfect description (I'd put an Icon here, but I've never found one for a Smiley face that's puking)
This just in!

Bieber get's a boner!




That's even more embarrasing than the shoulder...



   Seems to me he's practicing "waffling" on the key issues so as not to alienate any future voters when he goes into politics after the "cute" wears off and his career tanks.

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2011, 08:24:09 PM »
Seems to me he's practicing "waffling" on the key issues so as not to alienate any future voters when he goes into politics after the "cute" wears off and his career tanks.
or he's just a sixteen yr old who has never really thought these kinds of things through, and is only parroting the ideals and standards inherited from his parents and teachers. Notice the way his statement was phrased as a question - in actuality he had no firm position but was seeking affirmation of his supposed "opinion" from the interviewer.

To be honest, does it really matter what a 16 yr old boy thinks about abortion anyway? that's so far out of the perview of a male that age as to make this opinion irrelevant. Besides, actually rather than endorsing or denying abortions after rape, Beiber frankly and honestly admitted that he didn't have the experience or knowledge to be able to judge that kind of situation.
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2011, 08:45:15 PM »
I have to agree with some of the others above.  It seems a bit unfair to put some 16 year old under a microscope and expect him to commit to print a stance on a series of complex hot button social issues.

Good grief.  As long as he's not going totally Lohan off the rails, I wish people would just let the kid have a moment in the sun without immediately trying to take him down.

That's just my opinion on it anyways.
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2011, 08:49:10 PM »
or he's just a sixteen yr old who has never really thought these kinds of things through, and is only parroting the ideals and standards inherited from his parents and teachers. Notice the way his statement was phrased as a question - in actuality he had no firm position but was seeking affirmation of his supposed "opinion" from the interviewer.

To be honest, does it really matter what a 16 yr old boy thinks about abortion anyway? that's so far out of the perview of a male that age as to make this opinion irrelevant. Besides, actually rather than endorsing or denying abortions after rape, Beiber frankly and honestly admitted that he didn't have the experience or knowledge to be able to judge that kind of situation.

Quite likely you are correct in all of this, but then if we take that into consideration, we wouldn't be able to have any fun at his expense ;)

Perhaps though, he may want to start thinking about it because after all, he IS a 16 year old boy who is wealthy, famous, and (theoretically), cute, as well as being flooded with Testosterone. He may well still be a virgin, but really, how much longer can he hold out? At some point, he WILL get laid, and probably sooner rather than later. And when that happens, he may find himself having to think about abortion in ways he never imagined...

For the record though, when I was sixteen, I was aware of, and concerned with this subject even though I knew it would never become an issue for me personally since I was a gayboy from day one.

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2011, 09:48:05 PM »
To be honest, does it really matter what a 16 yr old boy thinks about abortion anyway?

In general no, but Beiber is not any 16yr old and he has millions of girls as fans. What I would like to see him do is to advocate for safe sex, or something, because he certainly cannot sing.

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2011, 10:28:38 PM »
In general no, but Beiber is not any 16yr old and he has millions of girls as fans. What I would like to see him do is to advocate for safe sex, or something, because he certainly cannot sing.


I mean this is subjective, but I'm of the opinion that he's a very talented singer, and he can play the guitar quite well which makes him a fairly talented musician.  What he cannot do is write songs, so he isn't a very good songwriter.  I think a 16 year old advocating for safe sex would be a little odd, considering he's probably pretty new to sex himself.

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2011, 10:43:29 PM »
I think a 16 year old advocating for safe sex would be a little odd, considering he's probably pretty new to sex himself.

New to sex at 16? Did you just beam in from a True Love Waits convention or what?

Considering that he has considerable influence with his fans I would think he could be a powerful advocate for safer sex amongst adolescents.

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2011, 10:49:05 PM »
New to sex at 16? ROFLMAO! I started at 14  :P :-X
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2011, 10:56:03 PM »
New to sex at 16? Did you just beam in from a True Love Waits convention or what?

Considering that he has considerable influence with his fans I would think he could be a powerful advocate for safer sex amongst adolescents.

MtD

New to sex at 16? ROFLMAO! I started at 14  :P :-X

I obviously forgot who I was talking to.

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2011, 11:02:08 PM »
I obviously forgot who I was talking to.

Hey Drews! I think this frigid little number is calling us a pair of sluts!

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2011, 11:08:53 PM »
New to sex at 16? ROFLMAO! I started at 14  :P :-X

I held off on having sex until I was 12.  I thought if I did it when I was 11 that people would call me a slut -  glad I waited that extra year.  ::)
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2011, 11:14:49 PM »
I held off on having sex until I was 12.  I thought if I did it when I was 11 that people would call me a slut -  glad I waited that extra year.  ::)

If having sex with GI JOE counts I was 9!
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2011, 11:15:22 PM »
If having sex with GI JOE counts I was 9!

I'm sure GI Joe was the top in that relationship.

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2011, 11:18:38 PM »
I'm sure GI Joe was the top in that relationship.

Zing! Are you touring soon? I simply have to catch your live show.

More generally I lost my Precious Gift when I was 13 to Terry Smith in a bus shelter after a school disco.

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2011, 11:20:25 PM »
Sluts R Us! I cannot remember if I knew what a slut was at 14. I sure knew what a faggot was...ME!
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2011, 11:22:51 PM »
I was 18, I was waiting for my one true love, it turned into about my 100 true loves before I decided to just forego the waiting.

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2011, 11:24:25 PM »
If having sex with GI JOE counts I was 9!
I got an Oscar Mayer hotdog caught in my ass when I was 10 - but I didn't consider that losing my virginity since it was pork -- not beef.
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8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2011, 11:27:33 PM »
I got an Oscar Mayer hotdog caught in my ass when I was 10 - but I didn't consider that losing my virginity since it was pork -- not beef.


Well it's nice to know you keep kosher, bubbeh.

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2011, 11:28:10 PM »
I got an Oscar Mayer hotdog caught in my ass when I was 10 - but I didn't consider that losing my virginity since it was pork -- not beef.


Is that what you call pig sex??
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« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2011, 11:33:22 PM »
Is that what you call pig sex??
I have found myself more attracted to pigs --- like the little fellow from Charlotte's Web - every since the hotdog incident --- needless to say, mom wasn't too amused when she had to wrestle it out of me --- but that is a story for another day --- between the hot dog in the ass and dressing my sister's dolls in Bob Mackie dresses, you would have thought that she wouldn't have been so surprised when I came out to her --- go figure.
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2011, 12:14:39 AM »
Is FF considered pig-sex? ::)
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2011, 12:16:43 AM »
FF and Justin Beiber in the same thread, who wudha thunk it?
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2011, 12:20:18 AM »
FF and Justin Beiber in the same thread, who wudha thunk it?

Justin Bieber...FF...? Nevermind  :o
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2011, 12:26:11 AM »
Am I going to jail for reading this thread?

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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2011, 12:33:13 AM »
Am I going to jail for reading this thread?



Just for the record and to clear my name I only wrote that they were mentioned in the same thread. :)
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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2011, 12:39:24 AM »
Am I going to jail for reading this thread?



What? For reading about JB eating French Fries??? Dirty minds.....  ::)
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2011, 02:33:04 AM »
Some are taking issue with what he said about homosexuality.  He said something like if that is what people decide, then it doesn't affect me and it shouldn't affect others.  Some thought he was implying it was a choice.  I think he was trying to say being gay is no big deal.  From what he said, I don't think he was saying it was choice.

This all reminds me when Brittany Spears was asked about Dubbya when she was much younger.  She said something like...He is doing the best job he can and we should all have faith in him.  I didn't understand asking her, at that time, a question about the president.  She would later appear in an episode of "Will and Grace" making fun of neo-con thinking.  That episode where she says she's into skunking, poodle-balling, and pulling the blinds.  I still don't know what those things are.  I can imagine what they mean. 

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2011, 03:29:08 AM »
FF?

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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2011, 06:05:58 AM »

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2011, 08:00:16 AM »
I mean this is subjective, but I'm of the opinion that he's a very talented singer, and he can play the guitar quite well which makes him a fairly talented musician. 

Girl got Beiber fever. Enter Tedderz. "OMG I got the Beiber fever."

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2011, 10:13:02 AM »
Rational Intelligence (truly rare these days) at any age,  should be admired.   8) ;)  ;D
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2011, 01:01:33 PM »
I got an Oscar Mayer hotdog caught in my ass when I was 10 - but I didn't consider that losing my virginity since it was pork -- not beef.


Hence the expression "Porking" or "Getting Porked".
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2011, 01:04:11 PM »
I h --- needless to say, mom wasn't too amused when she had to wrestle it out of me --- but that is a story for another day ---

Okay, it's another day. This story must be told. Disclose immediately. Need details.

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2011, 02:46:59 PM »
He was funny, knowing, in that kinda creepy T.I.L.F. skit with Tina Fey.

I think his job is to be young, sexy, successful, and entertaining. Who gives a fuck about his politics.

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2011, 03:33:51 PM »
I think his job is to be young, sexy, successful, and entertaining. Who gives a fuck about his politics.

Let's see here
   Young:  Yes. But it's not like he has a choice in the matter
    Sexy:  Entirely debatable. Maybe in a decade or three, if he actually can look like a guy by then.
   Successful:  Yeah, he's made a ton of money, so I gues I'll giv him that.
   Entertaining:  The only way I could find him etertaining is if he were locked in a fighting cage with Matty  the Damned. I'd pay big money to watch, and be enterntained by, such a spectacle. Otherwise, meh, no big deal.

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2011, 03:39:59 PM »
I don't find him sexy and entertaining but millions of adoring fanbots have made that the basis of his success. Kudos to him.
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2011, 03:43:40 PM »
I don't find him sexy and entertaining but millions of adoring fanbots have made that the basis of his success. Kudos to him.

Who knows maybe you could catch him with beer breath  ;)

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2011, 03:53:37 PM »
Who knows maybe you could catch him with beer breath  ;)

ARGH! YOO STOAL MAH LINE!  :P

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2011, 06:18:17 PM »
Justin is Beiberlicious. He just needs to shut up and look pretty.

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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2011, 06:27:45 PM »
" Beiberlicious"

I love it!
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2011, 07:01:11 PM »
He just needs to shut up and look pretty.

Yes that's very  true.

   Sadly, though, it is unlikely to ever come to pass. After all, he gets paid a lot of money to open his mouth mouth and let it all out. No matter how pathetic it may sound.

   As for looking pretty? Meh... Call me underwhelmed. I know billions of pre-teen fans of both genders beg to disagree with me on this one, but way too young and way to fey for me. I wonder if his dad is hot? Hmmmm...
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Re: Justin Beiber Labels US Healthcare "Evil"
« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2011, 07:11:35 PM »


Dad is SMOKIN!
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