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Offline tom89

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Kissing and cold sore
« on: January 15, 2011, 01:28:41 AM »
Trying to stay calm and reading other posts here helped. Nevertheless, would appreciate your opinion.

Met random guy. Engaged in oral sex: briefly (10 sec) gave him oral sex and then received it for a bit longer. No ejaculation on both sides while performing oral sex. Mutual masturbation at the end.

Sort of worried about oral sex part...

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Re: Opinion
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2011, 01:43:44 AM »
You never had a risk in the situations you've provided.

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Re: Opinion
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2011, 07:57:10 AM »
Your saliva has over a dozen elements and proteins which very effectively prevent the transmission of viable HIV. As for receiving oral which is one of the most common of sexual acts, in the entire history of the epidemic there's never been a confirmed case of transmission in that manner. It's safe to say you are not going to make history by becoming the first.

You are worrying needlessly. There's no need for testing over this incident. The only confirmed means of transmitting HIV sexually are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. Use condoms for those and you will be well protected.
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Re: Opinion
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2011, 12:15:23 AM »
Thanks for previous responses. Additional question if I may, since I could not find answer in Lessons section.

What is the HIV transmission risk for rubbing (not sure of the technical term). I.e. touching two penises against each other, touching other person's anus (but not penetrating) with penis?

Also, what is the risk of fingering?

Thanks

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Re: Opinion
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2011, 06:43:44 AM »
Tom,

None of your concerns appear in the transmission lesson because none of them are risks.

Rubbing genitals together or rubbing genitals on the anal area is called frottage, and frottage is not a risk for hiv infection. Neither is fingering and it doesn't matter if you bite your fingernails or have small cuts or scratches on your fingers.

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted inside the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies. Once outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect.

Hiv can only infect a very few, very specific cell types and these cells are not found on your fingers or anywhere else on your skin. They are found in the lining of the anus, the vagina and the urethrea and also the inner side of the foreskin in men who are not circumsized.

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Offline tom89

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Re: Opinion
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2011, 07:15:28 AM »
the inner side of the foreskin in men who are not circumsized.

Ann, thank you for response. With reference to what you wrote about foreskin (and apologies if that's stupid question)... how does touching another men's penis (and his foreskin) and then touching my penis does not pose the risk?

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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2011, 10:04:44 AM »
Tom,

It isn't a risk because the virus would have been outside the body. Re-read my first reply (#4).

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline tom89

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Kissing and cold sore
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2011, 10:30:02 PM »
Dear Experts, I do realize (after reading lessons) that kissing does not pose any risk for HIV transmission. However, if I have a cold sore (in the middle of development) does it change the situation? It seems to be an open wound (as cold sore is developing), though I don't know whether it changes the risk assessment. Thank you!
« Last Edit: March 09, 2011, 10:31:45 PM by tom89 »

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Re: Kissing and cold sore
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2011, 10:57:12 PM »
No Tom, having a cold sore does not in anyway change that you absolutely do not have a risk from any kind of kissing.

Zero risk.

No need for testing nor for further concern on your part.

Cheers.
Andy Velez

Offline tom89

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Re: Kissing and cold sore
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2011, 11:18:19 PM »
Thank you Andy for quick reply.

What I learnt from my previous "panic attacks" is that it is better to know in advance the risk (and not post fact). So this time I try to play it safe - know risks before acting. With your advice that having a cold sore does not change the risk of HIV transmission I can go out and kiss tonight! :)

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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2011, 05:55:30 AM »
Tom,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.





While having a cold sore absolutely does NOT change the fact that kissing is NOT a risk for hiv infection, you need to stop passing on your HERPES. Yes, cold sores are HERPES. Keep your herpes to yourself!

You should not allow either a developing, open or healing cold sore aka HERPES come into contact with any part of another person's body. EVER. Keep your herpes to yourself! Sheesh!

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline tom89

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Re: Kissing and cold sore
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2011, 09:53:00 AM »
Ok, point taken. Did not know it's Herpes. No kissing in that case.

 


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