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Offline Miss Philicia

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Why I don't date young boys
« on: January 10, 2011, 11:28:12 AM »


Teachable Moment: Is youth really worth all of this as we grow older?  I think not.

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A male model confessed Sunday to killing a gay journalist in a Times Square hotel - and gave cops a twisted explanation of why he sexually mutilated his victim, sources said.

Renato Seabra, 20, told cops he used a corkscrew to sever 65-year-old Carlos Castro's genitals as a way to cure the older man of his homosexuality, the police sources said.

Seabra was charged with second-degree murder, police said Monday.

Seabra and Castro came to New York from their native Portugal and by all accounts were a couple - but Seabra appears unable to admit that, police sources said.

"He said he did it to get rid of [Castro's] homosexual demons," one of the police sources said.

Police believe the two men had dated for several months, even though Seabra's family insisted the tanned hunk is straight.

"My son was not Carlos Castro's lover," Seabra's mother, OdŪlia Pereirinha, told a Portuguese TV station. "From the beginning, he never hid his sexuality, which is heterosexual."

Castro was a high-profile gay activist and society columnist in his home country.

Seabra's claim to fame was as a pretty boy contestant on a top model reality show.

The duo were staying at the InterContinental Hotel since Dec. 29 and hit the town together often, dining and drinking at fancy restaurants, friends said.

Whatever the nature of their relationship, this much is certain, cops say: Seabra brutalized his victim and left him to die in a pool of blood.

Detectives briefly questioned Seabra on Sunday at the Bellevue Hospital psychiatric ward, where he is in police custody, the sources said.

Castro was found dead in his room at the hotel Friday. An autopsy showed Castro died of strangulation and blunt-force trauma to the head.

Seabra fled the hotel, but was nabbed at Roosevelt Hospital when he sought treatment for cuts to his face and wrists. Investigators believe he may have tried to kill himself.

Castro paid for the couple's trip to New York to celebrate the new year, but detectives believe Seabra killed his gray-haired lover when he refused to take him on an expensive shopping trip.

Seabra's mother said her son - whom she described as shy and religious - wasn't capable of such horror.

"My son, being a golden boy, who is so good, he didn't do this," she said.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2011, 11:34:00 AM by Miss Philicia »
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2011, 11:44:20 AM »
Clearly, stricter corkscrew control laws are needed.

Joking aside, this is sick. It's sad too. The ramifications of homophobia are too far-reaching - it makes me feel like we're doomed as a society. If it weren't for homophobia, there would be no need for this type of murderous denial and self-hatred.
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2011, 11:49:43 AM »
Like his mother says, he's a good Catholic boy and couldn't have done this.
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 12:20:10 PM »


  Holy SHIT OUCH!! 
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2011, 01:00:45 PM »
A corkscrew?  How exactly...you know what I don't wanna finish this question.

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2011, 01:02:21 PM »
A corkscrew?  How exactly...you know what I don't wanna finish this question.

I was having a lot of problems figuring that one out.
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2011, 01:38:49 PM »
I was having a lot of problems figuring that one out.

Yeah.... my imagination is wreaking havoc right  now.

He must have used this one:



I'm reading the side of my box and it clearly states: Caution: This corkscrew is not designed for use with synthetic corks due to its Teflon coated screw.

No warning about genitalia.... 
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2011, 01:48:37 PM »
Hotel corkscrews have a little knife to cut the seal on top of the bottle.

I dont think its at all clear if the model was hetero or homo. He was certainly a pretty guy and he seemed shy in his youtube clips being interviewed on his reality tv show.   He was certainly also a rent boy so gay for pay, or troubled closet case, not clear.

I lost a close older friend, not unlike this victim here.  Burned to death by his gigolo. The relationship doesnt have to be twisted, but alas, sometimes its really twisted.

Im not sure its homophobia. OK maybe the mother has some.  One wonders which fact destroys her more - that her son is gay?  Or a murderer? Or a gigolo? Or a straight boy willing to do gay for pay? Surely too much to take in at once considering the beauty boy she gazed upon for 20 years.

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2011, 09:13:10 PM »
   One must wonder what will wreck dear old Mom worse, when it comes out that her son is indeed gay? Or will it really be better to be able to think,"Oh, well, ummm, since it was gay-for-pay, it still means he's straight, so it's all good." But the reality will still be the same: her son takes it up the ass, and the Entire World knows about it. Whether or not he was making money doing it is the biggest question here.

  And again, what's ol' Mumsy to do when her "Golden Boy" gets shipped off for murder? Which given the circumstances, seems a foregone conclusion... But whatever rationale the old gal reverts to (and, I'm betting, a pretty entertaining series of logic-defying rationales), it will be will be incapable of hiding the naked sweaty truth: That now, even IF her "Golden Boy" really wasn't getting cornholed before, he certainly will be when he gets into circulation at Club Fed. And the Entire World knows this too. Fom the look of him, he should prove to be quite popular with the other boys. I would imagine he would be even more popular now than when he was an Altar Boy.

   I willl be most curious to see the continued story, and how it plays out. Especially when the denial can no longer hold, and Mommy becomes the Train Wreck that we can already see the beginning of. Best of Luck to her, I think she's gonna need it...

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2011, 09:37:00 PM »
I can only hope that mumsy takes it up the ass - without lube - for raising her Golden Boy son in such a homophobic atmosphere. Pretend old man in the sky be damned.
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2011, 09:50:30 PM »
I can only hope that mumsy takes it up the ass - without lube - for raising her Golden Boy son in such a homophobic atmosphere. Pretend old man in the sky be damned.

Well here -- ask her

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2011, 09:56:52 PM »
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2011, 10:03:33 PM »
Ummmm.... "date" young boys?? 


One rather has the impression that there was some element of, errrr,  monetary exchange.
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2011, 11:05:35 PM »
Date? No. Trick? yes.

*clears room of corkscrews, (and there are several)*
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2011, 05:55:25 AM »
I'll leave Hatred to those not strong enough to Love.

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2011, 06:24:23 AM »
you're totally killing the fantasy. my friends in palm springs are reeling because of this. this is what i was looking forward to in my golden years, sans corkscrews. that's right, no stis, a bitchy queen of a partner and the occasional weekend trick!

also, not all tricks are psycho! just most of them. and those that are don't take is this far. damnit...

okay, no more inappropriate comments....tonight.

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2011, 06:41:43 AM »
its been my experience that most young men and women drawn into prostitution are not usually mentally stable in first place, go figure

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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2011, 07:17:44 AM »
its been my experience that most young men and women drawn into prostitution are not usually mentally stable in first place, go figure

Whoa. Big call there Z-man.

I know plenty of mentally stable sex workers. Even young ones.

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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2011, 08:04:53 AM »
its been my experience that most young men and women drawn into prostitution are not usually mentally stable in first place, go figure

Do tell.

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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2011, 08:14:35 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2011, 09:25:03 AM »
Hey prostitutes and johns - it takes two to tango.
I think ywe go a bit far in saying gigolos are for the most part mentally unstable.

Anyway these days on the Swiss gay chat seems like its not so uncommon for young gay to dabble in sex work.

Turning a trick for an hour or two or an evening isnt the same as being a "travel companion".  If "golden boy" really uttered the explanation - trying to cure his victim of homosexuality - then we can imagine this was a pretty awful relationship for the two.  Different agendas, misunderstood intentions, lack of communication.  

Maybe hes a clever boy already aware that the "homo panic" defense is standard - that is, there was no homo panic on his part - its just a clever excuse.   Maybe he went into it looking for "mentor" or svengali - related to this career he dreamed of - and misunderstood what was expected of him.  Sex OK, but perhaps the john wanted too much - love.  And sometimes the older ones can be delusional about the relationship as well.  And not at all to blame the victim but we could imagine the older fellow should have protected himself, sensing after having spent so much time with the golden boy, that it was NOT a mutually rewarding relationship.

Maybe just a psychopath.  I really didnt get the feeling of a cool, cut-throat hustler who killed because he "didn't get a luxury shopping spree".  With his looks, that explanation would mean a really stupid boy cause with his looks he could pass on to the guy who would pay for what he wants.

This is a crime of psychosis and passion, or maybe drugs.

Its the oldest profession and there are tons of customers and workers pretty much satisfied with straightforward commercial aspect of it.  

Something went horribly wrong in New York but not sure if "sex work" is the primary "explanation". 

Its a tawdry tragic version of Lagerfeld and Baptiste. 
« Last Edit: January 11, 2011, 09:38:42 AM by mecch »
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2011, 09:55:36 AM »
ok ok i give, i'm sorry, i spoke in absolutes, thats always a bad idea... yes, i've had more than my fair share of experience  :o, and true enough, the johns add to the problem

point i was trying to make, i didnt make well, i may try again later...
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2011, 10:13:45 AM »
I still haven't figured out the corkscrew thing.

He isn't all that to begin with. I like men who are a bit more masculine, not a posing girly boy.

OOPS, I had better be careful, he might find out I called him a girly boy and come after me with a cork screw, if he ever gets out of the mental ward.

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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2011, 10:34:05 AM »
« Last Edit: January 11, 2011, 10:37:38 AM by mecch »
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2011, 11:31:26 AM »
I'm always surprised that I'm still alive, considering all of the rough trade I used to procure especially during those Caribbean jaunts several that were right out of prison.  I used to do annual repeats with this guy named Miguel including runs to the tin shack ghetto near the airport to score coke, totally shouldn't have been in that location.  He ended up getting murdered years later.  Was always very attentive and nice to me however, including the time another hustler tried to pick me up and Miguel pummeled him on the sidewalk as blood went everywhere.

Then there's that ex-trick Luis who is now serving time in a maximum security prison in upstate NY.
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2011, 12:06:49 PM »
Yeah, I'm surprised I survived my jaunts into Spanish Harlem and the South Bronx to buy drugs in the early 80s. If I ever found out my daughter was doing something similar, I'd be horrified and extremely worried for her safety. When I was doing it, I never gave it a second thought. (Aside from maybe the time the derelict building where stuff was being sold got raided by the cops and I had to jump from the fire escape that ended at the second floor. Scary times.) :o
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2011, 01:02:39 PM »
I'm always surprised that I'm still alive, considering all of the rough trade I used to procure especially during those Caribbean jaunts several that were right out of prison.  I used to do annual repeats with this guy named Miguel including runs to the tin shack ghetto near the airport to score coke, totally shouldn't have been in that location.  He ended up getting murdered years later.  Was always very attentive and nice to me however, including the time another hustler tried to pick me up and Miguel pummeled him on the sidewalk as blood went everywhere.

Then there's that ex-trick Luis who is now serving time in a maximum security prison in upstate NY.

You could have been killed or had your own episode on "Locked Up Abroad". You have certainly survived a lot.

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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2011, 03:33:38 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2011, 03:48:57 PM »
Some people take MILF a little too literally.

Her (also a model) son is gay, but did you notice how huge the bulge in his swimsuit is in pic #5?
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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2011, 03:59:47 PM »
Her (also a model) son is gay, but did you notice how huge the bulge in his swimsuit is in pic #5?

Looks like mom sees it too...  Come get some MAMA!!!!  You know you want it!!
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2011, 04:05:37 PM »
Her (also a model) son is gay, but did you notice how huge the bulge in his swimsuit is in pic #5?

He's a Freudian psychoanalyst's wet dream.




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« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2011, 04:12:24 PM »
I'm always surprised that I'm still alive, considering all of the rough trade I used to procure especially during those Caribbean jaunts several that were right out of prison. 

Then there's that ex-trick Luis who is now serving time in a maximum security prison in upstate NY.

I feel you Ms. P.  --- when I lived in DC, I used to cop in areas where the police wouldn't even go. This was back when Mayor Berry was in charge (well actually the Jamaican drug posses were running things) - and the Nation of Islam was called in to Paradise-Mayfair apartments - where I used to frequent - to calm down the violence because the police were afraid to go in.  Then there is the Army buddy - Tony - who got shot in front of me over a deal gone bad -  he lived and we were right back out on the streets a few days later.

And the tricks --- YIKE - when I first moved to Fort Lauderdale --- YIKES --- one is in prison for murder, the other for aggravated assault, a few for drug charges... and those were the nice ones.  Luckily I made it out alive and relatively unharmed.
September 13, 2008 - diagnosed +
Labs:
Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2011, 08:35:21 PM »
I'm always surprised that I'm still alive, considering all of the rough trade I used to procure especially during those Caribbean jaunts several that were right out of prison.  I used to do annual repeats with this guy named Miguel including runs to the tin shack ghetto near the airport to score coke, totally shouldn't have been in that location.  He ended up getting murdered years later.  Was always very attentive and nice to me however, including the time another hustler tried to pick me up and Miguel pummeled him on the sidewalk as blood went everywhere.

Then there's that ex-trick Luis who is now serving time in a maximum security prison in upstate NY.

Yeah, I'm surprised I survived my jaunts into Spanish Harlem and the South Bronx to buy drugs in the early 80s. If I ever found out my daughter was doing something similar, I'd be horrified and extremely worried for her safety. When I was doing it, I never gave it a second thought. (Aside from maybe the time the derelict building where stuff was being sold got raided by the cops and I had to jump from the fire escape that ended at the second floor. Scary times.) :o

Ok if I ever find myself in a sticky situation I want you both at my back.. ;)

Edited to add....I want Phil there too.

Aroha
Jan :-*
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2011, 10:38:24 AM »
Ok if I ever find myself in a sticky situation I want you both at my back.. ;)

Edited to add....I want Phil there too.

Aroha
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You know we got your back, Jan. ;)
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2011, 10:43:34 AM »
Ok if I ever find myself in a sticky situation I want you both at my back.. ;)

Edited to add....I want Phil there too.

Aroha
Jan :-*
I have your back too Jan --

Oh, and I also survived a robbery attempt 4 years ago (right outside the building I currently live in - North Miami) --- happened at 8:54 p.m. and the youngster and his friend decided they wanted to run up on me and put a 357 revolver to my ribs ---- needless to say, they got the money ($17) and two cell phones (as I was in no position to argue) - on a positive note, they didn't dig deep enough into my pocket to get my "stash" and they were kind of cute (in a thuggish, potential murderer type of way)  :)
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Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2011, 11:03:41 AM »



    I got you all beat.  I copped during the 1989 Miami riots, which came after Miami police officer William Lozano put a bullet in the brain of Clement Lloyd.  Not even the closing of I-95 could keep my ass out of Overtown..... and the REAL Pork N' Beans in Liberty City; anyone from down here just mention the cross streets of NW 15 Ave and 62 St, they'll know what's up....


   But hey, even more impressive than all that............  I jumped off a 3 story building when I was 8 years old with a broken parachute that my step dad gave me. 
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2011, 11:23:18 AM »
It's not about copping, it's about copping with hustlers.  Preferably followed by licking coke out of their foreskins. ;D
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2011, 11:27:13 AM »
It's not about copping, it's about copping with hustlers.  Preferably followed by licking coke out of their foreskins. ;D

LOL I'm so sorry,  Ann didn't mention that part.  However, I did rip my nutsack on a gas tank when I was fourteen, does that count?
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2011, 11:52:32 AM »
Please remind me not to let any of you set me up on a blind date!!!!

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
04/01/14 CD4- 898  42%   VL-

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2011, 08:30:39 AM »
Please remind me not to let any of you set me up on a blind date!!!!

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Are you sure? 'Cuz I know this really scrumptious young lad - and his daddy's rich. :)

Ann
(who wishes the scrumptious young lad was twenty years older and bi or straight)
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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2011, 04:06:53 PM »
I have your back too Jan --

 they were kind of cute (in a thuggish, potential murderer type of way)  :)

Beauty is only skin deep..evil goes right to the bone, but hey if he's cute who am I to judge.... ;D


   But hey, even more impressive than all that............  I jumped off a 3 story building when I was 8 years old with a broken parachute that my step dad gave me. 

Do you think he was trying to tell you something Skeebo.. ;)

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2011, 08:20:14 PM »
Are you sure? 'Cuz I know this really scrumptious young lad - and his daddy's rich. :)

Ann
(who wishes the scrumptious young lad was twenty years older and bi or straight)

Can we skip the young lad and just give me the daddy? I like older men  ;) ;D ::)
01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
04/01/14 CD4- 898  42%   VL-

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2011, 08:26:13 PM »
Can we skip the young lad and just give me the daddy? I like older men  ;) ;D ::)

Why not both? You can have the Daddy and keep the young lad for various domestic duties around the manse. :)

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2011, 08:46:09 PM »
Why not both? You can have the Daddy and keep the young lad for various domestic duties around the manse. :)

MtD

Brilliant plan Sir Matty! And I can always loan the lad out to you for non-domestic duties, lol.  ;D
01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
04/01/14 CD4- 898  42%   VL-

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2011, 08:49:56 PM »
Brilliant plan Sir Matty! And I can always loan the lad out to you for non-domestic duties, lol.  ;D

Very kind Master O, but my Indonesian houseboy Bambang provides for all my needs. :)

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2011, 09:29:20 PM »
Very kind Master O, but my Indonesian houseboy Bambang provides for all my needs. :)

MtD


Ahh yes, I forgot all about Bambang. Good to hear he's still serving you well!  ;)

odyssey
01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
04/01/14 CD4- 898  42%   VL-

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2011, 09:41:29 PM »

Ahh yes, I forgot all about Bambang. Good to hear he's still serving you well!  ;)

odyssey

He's certainly an improvement on his predecessor, Po. :)

MtD

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Re: Why I don't date young boys
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2011, 09:52:26 PM »
Do you think he was trying to tell you something Skeebo.. ;)

Yeah, he explained it all to me when I turned 16. lol  GET OUT!!!
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