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Author Topic: Cost of breaking the silence ?  (Read 7003 times)

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Offline Joe K

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Re: Cost of breaking the silence ?
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2011, 07:39:47 PM »
Hey Joe: I know you and a few others, thought I jumped on you when your comments didn't seem all that bad; but they don't know of the issue between you and me that started a few months ago. While you may think it's all that long ago and all water under the bridge, your prior comments were very hurtful towards me, and so now every comment you post towards me I view with a very critical eye.

I would suggest that we both follow your request in our last PM exchange before you blocked me. If I'm not going to comment on any of your posts, I suggest it's only fair that you don't comment on any of my posts either. I believe that doing things that way, we'll probably both be better off. I hope that by not "speaking" with, to, or about one another anymore, that can be the end of that. Thank you.

I don't really know what to say.  I cannot believe you still hold a grudge over that issue.  I am dumbfounded that you are unable to forgive me, for a few unfortunate comments, when I have repeatedly apologized for my behavior.  I never had you on ignore, nor did I block your PMs.  This issue that you believe still exists, is all yours and I really have no further comment.  I will however, continue to respond to any thread that I choose.

Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: Cost of breaking the silence ?
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2011, 07:51:56 PM »
I don't know anyone these days, especially my poz friends, who don't live with some depression all the time. It's just become a staple of American life in general I think. Since depression can't magically be made to vanish, it just stands to reason that we learn to live with depression. Plenty of psychologists will say that some depression is actually healthy as it allows you to grieve your losses and find a way to put those losses into a healthy perspective in your life. Since we're living with depression all the time then, it only seems logicaly to refer to this underlying, manageable depression as "healthy depression" rather than "extreme depression" or "clinical depression".

I think what you call "healthy depression" other people refer to as sadness. Everyone experiences sadness, grieving, disappointment-- which are all normal reactions to life's challenges. That is not depression and not everyone, not even people living with HIV, is depressed. I think one reason you are getting backlash is because your comments appear to minimize what people who are clinically depressed are experiencing.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2011, 07:59:49 PM by GSOgymrat »

Offline anniebc

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Re: Cost of breaking the silence ?
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2011, 08:18:19 PM »


I was upset and miserable when I got my diagnosis, I cried for months when I lost my parents and when I lost my great granson two years ago, I couldn't eat or sleep, but I wasn't going through a "healthy depression"..I was simply grieving....and that's healthy.


Aroha
Jan :-*




Thanks Ford, that's what I was trying to say here..there's a big difference between sadness and depression, there is no such thing as a "Healthy depression", depression is a serious illness.

Aroha
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Offline bocker3

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Re: Cost of breaking the silence ?
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2011, 10:29:05 PM »
I have to agree with Ford and Annie here -- this whole unfortunate exchange boils down to semantics, me thinks. 

Depression is a disorder -- there is no "healthy" disorder, else it wouldn't be a disorder.  There is normal sadness, grief and stress.  While I wouldn't consider these all that "healthy" either -- they are normal and I bet that there are few who go through life without experiencing them.  I am fortunate to have never suffered depression -- I have grieved, I have been sad, and lord knows I've had my share of stress.  Sometimes I have handled them quite well, other times not so well.

So....  let's stop with this exchange and get back to John's topic.

Mike
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Offline skeebo1969

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Re: Cost of breaking the silence ?
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2011, 12:47:01 AM »



   I keep thinking of Mortal Kombat for some reason when I read this thread.
   
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Offline BT65

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Re: Cost of breaking the silence ?
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2011, 04:40:39 AM »
Plenty of psychologists will say that some depression is actually healthy

Links to this info, please. 

All I can say to this is that Mikey is ever so lucky that posting PMs publicly is frowned upon by the Goderators. Then we'd really see who does the bullying, provoking and berating.

MtD

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