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Offline RAB

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Ariz. Congresswoman Shot
« on: January 08, 2011, 02:39:05 PM »
Is this what politics has come to here in the U.S.?

Is the rhetoric and violence inspiring hate this strong?

I'm saddened beyond belief.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40978517/ns/politics/

What the hell has this country become?  

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« Last Edit: January 08, 2011, 03:29:01 PM by RAB »

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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Killed
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2011, 03:01:46 PM »
CNN is now reporting that she's in surgery.  Previously they were reporting that she had died.

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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Killed
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2011, 03:05:38 PM »
Ugh. Giffords was one of the good ones. Comparatively speaking.

Why couldn't it have been Michele Bachmann? If anyone ever needed a slug to the head it's that fucker.

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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Killed
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2011, 03:11:23 PM »
She was also one of the ones who had their offices vandalized after voting for healthcare reform.  First political assassination in the US since 1979.  Hooray for "Second Amendment remedies".
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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Killed
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2011, 03:11:28 PM »



We just got home and heard of this happening.  Watching CNN now...


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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Killed
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2011, 03:12:15 PM »
Terrible news indeed  , I hate it when people shoot Democrats .

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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Killed
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2011, 03:12:53 PM »
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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Killed
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2011, 03:15:45 PM »
Hopefully she will make it through surgery.  Word is they have a 21 yr old in custody.  Have to hold off in speculating on the reasons for the shooting.  I hope it's not a political radical idiot who disagreed, but am fearful it will be politically motivated.
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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Killed
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2011, 03:19:04 PM »
... "Second Amendment remedies".

I am afraid that is exactly what this is.  If so Sharon Angle should be held accountable, of course that's not possible, but words do have meaning.  Maybe this will be a wake up call to those who use such vile language.
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2011, 03:21:41 PM »
I am afraid that is exactly what this is.  If so Sharon Angle should be held accountable, of course that's not possible, but words do have meaning.  Maybe this will be a wake up call to those who use such vile language.

Yairs, but Glenn Beck will pin this on the Left.

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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Killed
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2011, 03:28:02 PM »
Yairs, but Glenn Beck will pin this on the Left.

MtD

Guns don't kill people, people kill people

When I said that I didn't mean it literally.

I cannot help what others do, anyone who knows me knows that I was speaking figuratively and do not support such an act


Are just some of the types of things we will hear.  And heaven forbid the suspect is an immigrant
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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Shot
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2011, 03:42:02 PM »
... I want my country back

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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Shot
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2011, 03:46:54 PM »
The reports are stating that 18 people were shot , 6  dead, 12 wounded


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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Shot
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2011, 03:55:18 PM »



  Giffords tweeted shortly before the shooting, saying: "My 1st Congress on Your Corner starts now. Please stop by to let me know what is on your mind or tweet me later."


Looks to me like the shooter had some confusion involving the word "tweet" or something...
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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Shot
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2011, 03:56:52 PM »
Word is Giffords is expected to survive. 
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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Shot
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2011, 03:57:50 PM »
This is terrible.
I had high hopes for Arizona.  ???
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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Shot
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2011, 03:58:30 PM »
One of the wounded is a child.  :'(
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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2011, 04:04:59 PM »
a doctor from the hospital just said that the Congresswoman is still alive.  One person has died -- a young child.
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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Shot
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2011, 04:06:59 PM »
Word is Giffords is expected to survive. 

She may survive Woods but what is her quality of life going to be like, I read she took a bullet to the head, that can and possibly will cause severe brain damage.

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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2011, 04:08:04 PM »
The killer has been ID'd now as Jared Laughner.  Nice facebook pic, dontchathink?
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2011, 04:12:20 PM »
The killer has been ID'd now as Jared Laughner.  Nice facebook pic, dontchathink?

Now that BookFace page is one of the lamest Poe's I've encountered.

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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Shot
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2011, 04:16:14 PM »
Now that BookFace page is one of the lamest Poe's I've encountered.

MtD

Did you see that Jared's a cock sucking Log Cabin Tea Bagger as well?  Actually I think this must be a Malkin-esque attempt to frame a liberal for the shooting.  I'm quite sure that information wasn't present when I first put up the link.

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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2011, 04:19:33 PM »
Did you see that Jared's a cock sucking Log Cabin Tea Bagger as well?  Actually I think this must be a Malkin-esque attempt to frame a liberal for the shooting.  I'm quite sure that information wasn't present when I first put up the link.



Clearly a frame up. The Stalin pic is the dead giveaway. One thing about the Right -- they just can't do funneh.

I read she took a bullet to the head, that can and possibly will cause severe brain damage.

I hope not. Severe brain damage would render her a Republican. :(

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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Shot
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2011, 04:47:07 PM »
I just heard that a 9 y.o. child was killed, along with 5 others dead.

This is a tragic horrible even.
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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2011, 04:55:21 PM »
Enjoy checking out the gunman's youtube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10
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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2011, 05:15:12 PM »
Enjoy checking out the gunman's youtube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10

Wow. There's a whole lotta crazy going on on that page! Did any of you read through those videos? Hoooboy!
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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2011, 05:18:11 PM »
Wow. There's a whole lotta crazy going on on that page! Did any of you read through those videos? Hoooboy!

I did. I'm beginning to think his FB page is legit. One seriously deranged young chap.

Should also be noted that a federal judge was popped in the spree.

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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2011, 05:20:09 PM »
Enjoy checking out the gunman's youtube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10

Check out his reads,  Aesop Fables to Mein Kampf... that's one hell of a transition LMAO.
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« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2011, 05:21:36 PM »
Enjoy checking out the gunman's youtube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10

??????  I am not sure what all that was about....l ???
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« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2011, 05:22:01 PM »
Check out his reads,  Aesop Fables to Mein Kampf... that's one hell of a transition LMAO.

That's what made me think twice regarding the BookFace page.

But then I've read Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto as well.

Where's mah gun? >:(

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« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2011, 05:25:37 PM »
I did. I'm beginning to think his FB page is legit. One seriously deranged young chap.

Should also be noted that a federal judge was popped in the spree.

MtD

No, the fb I linked to is not legit -- his last name has been corrected in new sources as Loughner, not Laughner.

Here's a screen cap of his myspace page before it was yanked down:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/kittenstoe/5337086764/
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« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2011, 05:45:14 PM »
Some video of Ms Giffords being interviewed following an attack on her office after the health care vote.

(link)

Always helpful to note the human aspect in these situations.

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« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2011, 06:05:41 PM »
Always helpful to note the human aspect in these situations.

MtD

Watching the video makes me wonder where the bullet struck her, I know it was the head but which part I mean.  I'm going to remain optimistic for her and her career, memories of James Brady come to mind here.
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« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2011, 07:07:09 PM »
Maybe if there were some gun laws... nah.  280 million guns in America, almost one for each citizen.  I expect this is just the beginning.  What I cannot understand is how the NRA, with 4 million members, can hold the country hostage to a woeful lack of gun laws.  The Second Amendment never mentioned that every person, sane or not, could or should own a gun.  But given the current Supreme Court, nothing, as usual, will happen.

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« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2011, 07:58:40 PM »
Maybe if there were some gun laws... nah.  280 million guns in America, almost one for each citizen.  I expect this is just the beginning.  What I cannot understand is how the NRA, with 4 million members, can hold the country hostage to a woeful lack of gun laws.  The Second Amendment never mentioned that every person, sane or not, could or should own a gun.  But given the current Supreme Court, nothing, as usual, will happen.
You don't know anything about the Congresswoman do you Joe? She is an advocate of the second amendment and she is a gun owning woman.

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« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2011, 08:16:25 PM »
You don't know anything about the Congresswoman do you Joe? She is an advocate of the second amendment and she is a gun owning woman.

And now she's been shot in the head by a fuckwit, Rod. What's yer point?

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« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2011, 08:19:30 PM »
The Pima County Sheriff is currently giving a press conference.  I like the way this guy thinks!!!

And Rod doesn't matter whether she supports gun rights or not, Joe's statement is spot on
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« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2011, 08:32:28 PM »
You don't know anything about the Congresswoman do you Joe? She is an advocate of the second amendment and she is a gun owning woman.

Rod, I am very familiar with her stand regarding guns and that was not my point.  There is a total lack of effective gun control in America, as witnessed by the thousands of deaths each year.  Gun dealers use loopholes and allow straw purchases and nobody cares, until those guns starting shooting your Congresswoman, Federal Judge and a 9 year old girl.  Are you serious that the second amendment guarantees that every person can have a gun, period?  While you think about that, maybe you can tell me why sports hunters, need armor piercing bullets and automatic weapons for hunting animals?

All I am asking for is some sanity in gun control, because responsible gun owners are not the problem here.

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« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2011, 08:42:22 PM »
And Rod doesn't matter whether she supports gun rights or not, Joe's statement is spot on
not really. if she had been less pro-gun and perhaps had worked with the legislature to pass tighter gun laws, the shooter might not have had a gun to shoot with.

All I am asking for is some sanity in gun control, because responsible gun owners are not the problem here.
sadly, until he shot the Congresswoman and these other people, he probably was a responsible gun owner.
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« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2011, 08:43:53 PM »
The Pima County Sheriff is currently giving a press conference.  I like the way this guy thinks!!!


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« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2011, 09:22:58 PM »
Out of respect of the families involved, I believe we should not be discussing anything outside the scope of the OP.  We can continue any ancillary discussion in another thread.

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« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2011, 09:24:14 PM »
Rod, I am very familiar with her stand regarding guns and that was not my point.  There is a total lack of effective gun control in America, as witnessed by the thousands of deaths each year.  Gun dealers use loopholes and allow straw purchases and nobody cares, until those guns starting shooting your Congresswoman, Federal Judge and a 9 year old girl.  Are you serious that the second amendment guarantees that every person can have a gun, period?  While you think about that, maybe you can tell me why sports hunters, need armor piercing bullets and automatic weapons for hunting animals?

All I am asking for is some sanity in gun control, because responsible gun owners are not the problem here.
There is no lack of control in law abiding citizens, it's your lack of control in unlawful abiding citizens. You can make all the laws you want on gun contols and your law abiding citizens will follow them. Then you will be left with, what you started with, unlawful abiding citizens.

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« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2011, 09:55:58 PM »
There is no lack of control in law abiding citizens, it's your lack of control in unlawful abiding citizens. You can make all the laws you want on gun contols and your law abiding citizens will follow them. Then you will be left with, what you started with, unlawful abiding citizens.

     
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« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2011, 09:59:58 PM »
What a tragedy! Its sad to think things in this country have reached a point that something like this happened.
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« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2011, 10:09:29 PM »
Good think the gunman's name is Jared and not Mustapha.
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« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2011, 10:46:10 PM »
Being here from Tucson the City is in shock so quiet
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« Reply #47 on: January 09, 2011, 12:06:41 AM »
Looks like someone will have some serious PR damage control to do in the few days..

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Offline skeebo1969

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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Shot
« Reply #48 on: January 09, 2011, 12:13:14 AM »
Looks like someone will have some serious PR damage control to do in the few days..



they'll probably just replace one of the white cross-hair targets for a red set....
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Offline anniebc

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Re: Ariz. Congresswoman Shot
« Reply #49 on: January 09, 2011, 12:25:52 AM »
not really. if she had been less pro-gun and perhaps had worked with the legislature to pass tighter gun laws, the shooter might not have had a gun to shoot with.
sadly, until he shot the Congresswoman and these other people, he probably was a responsible gun owner.

Seriously.!!!.you actually believe that?..I guess the same can be said for every lunatic that has opened fire and killed innocent people...people like him are nutters there is nothing responsible about them.

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