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Offline svenz

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« on: June 02, 2006, 09:33:20 PM »
I was on here a while back and got some good replies from the admins/experts.  All of whom saying I have had no risk.  If anyone wants to reply I would really appreciate it in easing my mind.  May sound crazy but I am not trying to insult anyone by any means.

My story is the basketball game where after I noticed the player bleeding and then noticed three small blotches of blood on my hands (intact skin so no risk there) from his wound.  The cut was not big by any stretch of the imagination so it was not gushing.  I was not convinced that it could have by chance gotten in my eyes thus infecting me.  I cannot stop thinking about it and am seeking mental help.  I have been sick literally ever since combined with depression and a sore throat (always clearing it since it got sore 8 days after I saw the blood).  Is anxiety creating this in your honest opinion?     

I appreciate you patience and the help you give to others.


Offline LessonLearned

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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2006, 09:38:38 PM »
You have been told numerous times that there is no risk is what you describe. The anwers are not going to change. No one is going to say "Well, not that I think about it, there is a risk". It just won't happen.

You need to work with your doctor about your anxiety, life's to short to live in constant fear about the ridiculous.

Offline svenz

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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2006, 09:44:06 PM »
thanks lesson learned.  I feel so badly that I make my head hurt/throat hurt and I must seek the proper attention.  Ann please do not ban me this helps me in my process of getting over it.

Offline Matty the Damned

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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2006, 09:53:05 PM »
The basketball story? For real? This comes up every few months. It's like some sick internet meme. It was doing the rounds of the old Fears forum back when I joined AIDSMEDS.

The basketball story is, of course, bullshit.

MtD

Offline svenz

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2006, 09:58:14 PM »
why would I lie about it?  Or are you just saying its too far out there.   Its definitely real.  I pretty much realize that I have irrational fears but the sickness it has had upon me is really real.  I will seek a counselor.

Offline LessonLearned

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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2006, 10:52:45 PM »
There is no doubt that you have a sickness. You were not at risk for HIV and you need to continue working with your doctor and stay away from this forum or anything else related to HIV.

It'll help clear your anxiety alot faster. And no one is saying that you are lying. Your story may be real but your risk is not.

You do not have HIV.

Offline DingoBoi

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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2006, 03:23:20 AM »
nobody EVER said you had 'LITTLE RISK' of hiv from your purported 'exposure'.

you had no risk.


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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2006, 05:25:28 AM »
svenz,

You were never at risk. Period.

Ann
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Offline svenz

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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2006, 11:58:19 PM »
OK since last posting I have gone to the Psychologist twice...seemed to help a lot initially and he tells me to different ways of combatting this which I am trying now.

Ialso went to the ENT doctor who evaluated my throat.  He thought it looked fine but my nose was somewhat dry and gave me some nasal sprays...i was convinced that I had a yeast infection but he said he did not see anything.

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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2006, 04:10:30 AM »
Keep seeing your Psychologist for the help you need.

Offline svenz

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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2006, 09:24:34 AM »
Ok aside from the last comments I had another episode relating to BBall again just last night.

To keep the story short I got a quick elbow to the teeth from an opposing player.  Immediately I thought about the chance of blood going into my mouth from his elbow.  I did not get cut in this scenario but he did (so my teeth on his arm).  I saw the marks on his arm from my teeth and yes it was bleeding.  I immediately put my hands on my teeth in order to check for cuts and blood but did not see anything.  There was also no noticable blood on my face...do you think that there is a risk here or does the saliva neutralize any hiv? 

Thanks

Offline svenz

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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2006, 12:50:45 PM »
please I need some help...but have you ever heard this?

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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2006, 01:12:16 PM »
svenz,

Not one single person has ever become infected with hiv through participation in sports and you are not going to be the first.

Ann
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Offline svenz

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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2006, 04:53:07 PM »
Ann,

I understand this from long before but do you think it's kind of a risk because my teeth ultimately penetrated his skin.  Even though immediately I checked for blood and did not see any (on my teeth and in my saliva).  He was bleeding after he pulled away from the blow to my face.  I have been to counseling trying to get to the root here (3 times) and I appreciate your working with me. 

 

Offline svenz

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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2006, 08:38:32 PM »
Why is this such an irrational thought?

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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2006, 09:48:09 PM »
There are thousands of sports-related such accidents every year. Yet as Ann has told there has never been a documented case of transmission in this manner.

Theoretically it could happen but in real life it hasn't and it doesn't because so many factors would have to come together to make it possible.

And as Ann said you aren't going to be making history by becoming the first to become infected in this manner.

Take a breath and get on with your life, no kidding.

Cheers,
Andy Velez

Offline svenz

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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2006, 01:42:54 PM »
Ann/Andy,

My teeth pierced his skin though...Although I did not see any blood on my teeth nor in my saliva as I immediately checked for this.  does the saliva isolate HIV blood if it was present?  I know deep down that its not transmitted in this way but am I wrong to be just a little concerned from this and the other episode?  I have seen the psychologist again for this 3 times and am trying to get to the root/cause of this...

I have not really gotten back into my normal routine as this has been tough to get over...

Offline Morgan

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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2006, 02:06:16 PM »
Svenz,

As this incident happened more than 3 months ago, go collect a negative test and put this behind you.

Morgan
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Offline svenz

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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2006, 03:54:23 PM »
Actually this one just happened...2 seperate incidents but similar in nature...I am seeing the psych doctor trying to get through it...but no reason to worry in either situation?  I am not sure why my thoughts are so irrational.

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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2006, 04:09:37 PM »
I am no expert, but first thing I'd do if I were you, is stop playing basketball.  May help you avoid these situations, for your own sake.

good luck,
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Offline svenz

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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2006, 04:34:37 PM »
thanks for your input but its one of the few things I like to do

Offline svenz

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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2006, 09:43:41 PM »
Ok I am still trying to get through this...no risk, no way, no how, correct???I need to get through this and am doing my bestbut find myseld continuously what iffing everything.  What if the blood got in my mouth after i cut that persons arm with my teeth?  Would the saliva inhibit hiv?  I was just getting over the other episode when this occurred.

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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2006, 10:09:19 PM »
Ok, now this is silly.

How many times do you need to hear it? How addicted are you to this drama?

Please get the real assistance you need.

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Offline svenz

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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2006, 06:48:54 PM »
thanks for your replies and assistance here with these two seperate incidents.  I would like to sum up where I am in the process of getting through this. 

I have seen the pschologist 3 or 4 times now.  He has been trying to instill upon me that "your not doing anything crazy like unprotected sex nor iv drugs so why are you worried".  I do not know i always play the devils advocate doing the "what if" thing.  I realize that many people are reading this saying that I am crazy but I am not, I am hypersensitive to HIV issues.  I have read other peoples postings and say the same things like why is he/she worried that is ridiculous to think about.

What else can I do to end this fear?  My counselor insists that I try to get angry at the thoughts when the thoughts come into my mind and to say you are not taking over me on this.  Do you think this is a good approach.

I realize that I am probably not at risk but cannot come to terms with this.  If you can tell me how unfounded my fear is I would really appreciate it.  I should just say sports are no risk like Anne has told me and be through with it but I am not.   

Offline Matty the Damned

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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2006, 06:52:37 PM »
Sven,

Work with your therapist. This sort of stuff can take a while to be resolved.

MtD

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« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2006, 08:39:08 PM »
Matty,

How ridiculous do my two scenarios seem to you?  I think the more people make me realize its ridiculous it will be easier to get over. 

Svenz

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« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2006, 08:44:37 PM »
Svens,

This is stuff you should be discussing with your therapist. We're not a humiliation service. Do I need to give you a time out to discourage you from coming here to fuel your unwarranted fears?

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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