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Author Topic: HIV, go gently into that good night, and soon, history...  (Read 2049 times)

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Offline wonderful1

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HIV, go gently into that good night, and soon, history...
« on: January 04, 2011, 04:04:41 PM »
As the Dylan Thomas poem posted below speaks to the passing of men so to HIV surely goes fighting into the good night and history.  Though some HIV positive folks who's identities are understandably inextricably connected to the virus may not be happy about it. Whether it is conscious or subconscious. It hurt's to say it or think it but it is true. This poem is dedicated to you.

We are at this moment in time experiencing the "cure". Now, as we bicker and argue and speak of when and how it will come about, the virus is naturally moving along into obscurity. HIV is weakening as it is more and more suppressed. Now by more than three, one a day regimes that are available at market. That will turn into an injection every three months. Then a vaccine every year and so on and so forth until ten, twenty, fifty years from now a young man or woman will show exposure to it and it will be no more than a blip. Like the flu, syphilis, VD and every other virus and std we have encountered through the ages.

The cure is happening now.  It won't come as some big announcement or some holy grail. The impact of the virus will just simply fade out slowly and subtly as it naturally should and naturally is.

HIV will always be around. It will exist in some recess of a cell. In some DNA molecule. In some medical books and, in the memories of those still around to remember, but even that to shall pass into the good night.

No PSA or AD campaign will ever prevent two people from the longing of desire. From the connection that only real intimacy can give us. What we need to be human and to be whole. In some cases to procreate and in others to know love the way we were intended to know it. We deserve it with or without consequence. It is, finally, who we are.

So, au revoir, adieu and bonsoir, HIV. Please, go gently into that good night. You will not be missed. Certainly not missed by me.

        Do not go gentle into that good night,
        Old age should burn and rage at close of day;
        Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

        Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
        Because their words had forked no lightning they
        Do not go gentle into that good night.

        Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
        Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
        Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

        Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
        And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
        Do not go gentle into that good night.

        Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
        Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
        Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

        And you, my father, there on the sad height,
        Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
        Do not go gentle into that good night.
        Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2011, 06:07:56 PM by wonderful1 »

Offline Dachshund

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Re: HIV, go gently into that good night and soon, history...
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2011, 04:33:12 PM »
There once was a man from Nantucket
Whose cock was so long he could suck it
He said with a grin
Wiping sperm from his chin
If my ear was my butt I could Fuck it!


Offline buginme2

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Re: HIV, go gently into that good night and soon, history...
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2011, 05:19:38 PM »
We are in the age of a cure?? Really? Almost 1000 people died from HIV in New York City alone last year.  That sounds like a cure to me. 

Offline buginme2

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Re: HIV, go gently into that good night and soon, history...
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2011, 05:21:42 PM »
Jonas Salk's Polio vaccine...Now that was a cure.  Thousands of people still dying each year or becoming disabled is not the kind of cure we want. thanks.

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: HIV, go gently into that good night and soon, history...
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2011, 05:39:20 PM »
Jonas Salk's Polio vaccine...Now that was a cure.  Thousands of people still dying each year or becoming disabled is not the kind of cure we want. thanks.

A vaccine is not a cure.

MtD

Offline buginme2

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Re: HIV, go gently into that good night and soon, history...
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2011, 05:44:11 PM »
Really, your going to argue semantics when a vaccine can produce complete eradication of a disease. 

Kinda misses the point of the post doesn't it.

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: HIV, go gently into that good night and soon, history...
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2011, 05:47:12 PM »
Really, your going to argue semantics when a vaccine can produce complete eradication of a disease. 

Kinda misses the point of the post doesn't it.

Well they're two different things. Precision cannot hurt.

MtD

Offline buginme2

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Re: HIV, go gently into that good night and soon, history...
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2011, 05:58:45 PM »
A vaccine is not a cure.  You're right.

Neither is what we are experiencing in HIV treatment today, as the original post of this thread suggests.

Offline mecch

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Re: HIV, go gently into that good night, and soon, history...
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2011, 06:15:59 PM »
Wonderful, what a load of baloney.
“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need” 1875 K Marx

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: HIV, go gently into that good night and soon, history...
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2011, 06:28:40 PM »
A vaccine is not a cure.  You're right.

Neither is what we are experiencing in HIV treatment today, as the original post of this thread suggests.

In the interests of precision, I should have said "a prophylatic vaccine is not a cure". I overlooked the prospects of a therapeutic vaccine.

MtD

Offline aztecan

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Re: HIV, go gently into that good night, and soon, history...
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2011, 11:41:33 PM »
Wonderful, where in the world did you get this from? Is this a fantasy you have dreamed up?

Whatever the source, it is pure poppycock.

"May your life preach more loudly than your lips."
~ William Ellery Channing (Unitarian Minister)

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: HIV, go gently into that good night, and soon, history...
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2011, 11:43:23 PM »
Wonderful, where in the world did you get this from? Is this a fantasy you have dreamed up?

Whatever the source, it is pure poppycock.



He can't answer you Comrade Mark. He's been Banninated.

MtD

Offline Jeff G

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Re: HIV, go gently into that good night, and soon, history...
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2011, 11:44:40 PM »
gently into the good night he went !

Offline aztecan

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Re: HIV, go gently into that good night, and soon, history...
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2011, 11:45:44 PM »
Oh, guess I must have missed that.

"May your life preach more loudly than your lips."
~ William Ellery Channing (Unitarian Minister)

Offline Ann

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Re: HIV, go gently into that good night, and soon, history...
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2011, 11:59:11 PM »
Oh, guess I must have missed that.



You must have. Sorry 'bout that - this thread may have been the more appropriate place for the announcement.

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