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Offline anthonynallen

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sex drive
« on: December 30, 2010, 06:31:44 PM »
I have had HIV for right at two years now and all has been OK, but lately i have not had any desire to have sex with my husband and was thinking this could have something to do with my HIV. Does anyone have any input on this subject.

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Re: sex drive
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2010, 06:36:26 PM »
Are you male or female?
If you are male, I will look up all my sex meds and give you the list.
HIV lowers testosterone levels which are needed for sexual desire.
If you are female, no clue what to tell you.

Hoover
Infection date: March 16, 2010
20/05/10 - CD4 348  VL 58,000  Lymph nodes in jaw painful!  Antioxidants started.
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Re: sex drive
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2010, 07:05:31 PM »
Are you male or female?
If you are male, I will look up all my sex meds and give you the list.
HIV lowers testosterone levels which are needed for sexual desire.
If you are female, no clue what to tell you.

Hoover

HIV *can* lower testosterone levels. I have had HIV since 1993 and have always maintained levels within the normal range.

Of course, someone ought to have hormonal levels checked during blood work. But also, depression and anxiety can also inhibit sex drive.  And considering HIV's stigma, this should come as no shock.

Stress can be a factor, as can diet and other environmental factors. Thing is, work with your doctor to find out the cause. HIV does not do the same thing to everyone, at the same rate. Thing is, don't give up. If your bloodwork comes out ok, investigate options tangentially related to HIV, like depression and stress and anxiety.

Viagra and Cialis and similar meds are great pills, but they do not cause sexual interest. They facilitate sexual function in the presence of sexual desire. If you are not feeling like having sex, the mechanics will just be that, mechanical.

If your numbers are good, with or without meds, then it might be a decent idea to look outside the HIV box for answers to both the sexual drive issues and the memory issues you mentioned in another thread.

Are you on meds? What are your numbers? Do you know your testosterone levels?

Welcome to the forums, by the way!

*modified to add:

I just saw in this post http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=33569.0 that you are not on meds. If your numbers are good, and you have accurate blood work and nothing is amiss there, I highly recommend that you search outside the HIV Box for your sexual and memory issues.

It certainly is not impossible that HIV is not at the root of all your evils. But it is HIGHLY unlikely at this point in your infection.



« Last Edit: December 31, 2010, 03:11:55 AM by jkinatl2 »
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: sex drive
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2010, 07:20:00 PM »
HIV *can* lower testosterone levels. I have had HIV since 1993 and have always maintained levels within the normal range.

Of course, someone ought to have hormonal levels checked during blood work. But also, depression and anxiety can also inhibit sex drive.  And considering HIV's stigma, this should come as no shock.

Thank you for stating this.  Depression happens to between 60-80% of HIV patients at one point or another compared with 5-10% of the general population.  Not sure why everyone runs to the gimme-gimme-t-shots thingie right off the bat on this forum, but whatevs. (though I do agree that having the testosterone levels checked is standard to rule out that effect, though I also think everyone should be screened for depression).
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Re: sex drive
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2010, 07:43:50 PM »
I'd just like to state that testosterone is also partly responsible for sex drive in women as well. Yes Virginia, women make testosterone too, albeit in much smaller quantities. And supposedly I've heard of doctors giving women tiny doses of it to boost libido. As far as depression goes, that can definitely zap the ol' want to get laid. Unfortunately, so can many antidepressants. But I think Wellbutrin, which is an SSRI I believe, is supposedly good for depression and keeping the sex drive up at the same time. Unfortunately for me, I'm allergic to it :(.

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01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
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Offline anthonynallen

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Re: sex drive
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2010, 08:25:09 PM »
Thanks for all your answers i do have a appt. coming up within the next two weeks to get my load and CD4 count so i can also talk to him about these other problems and see what he says. Once again thanks.

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Re: sex drive
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2010, 08:28:06 PM »
HIV lowers testosterone levels
about 30% of HIV poz people have issues with low T (that means a whopping 70% do NOT have this problem) and some HIV treatment actually increases testosterone.

"Dr. André Guay: At least 30% of HIV-positive people have low T. That number is greater than 50% for AIDs. Research has been done in this field for both men and women and testosterone replacement has helped many of these people." - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/liveonline/advertisers/viewpoint_aar041806.html

"Antiretroviral treatment led to increases in testosterone levels and lean body mass. Among the antiretroviral agents used in this study, efavirenz (Sustiva), AZT (zidovudine, Retrovir) and 3TC (lamivudine, Epivir) led to greater free testosterone increases than d4T (stavudine, Zerit), ddI (didanosine, Videx) or nelfinavir (Viracept)." - http://www.aidsmap.com/page/1427446/
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Re: sex drive
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2010, 04:59:07 AM »
I think Wellbutrin, which is an SSRI I believe,
odyssey

http://www.drugs.com/pro/wellbutrin.html

Wellbutrin is not an SSRI.  It is in the aminoketone class.  What it does is promote the release of dopamine, unlike other antidepressants.  I know most people think it's in the SSRI class, but alas, if a person would only look this med up, they would discover it's not.
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Re: sex drive
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2010, 02:16:53 PM »
http://www.drugs.com/pro/wellbutrin.html

Wellbutrin is not an SSRI.  It is in the aminoketone class.  What it does is promote the release of dopamine, unlike other antidepressants.  I know most people think it's in the SSRI class, but alas, if a person would only look this med up, they would discover it's not.

That's why I said "which is an SSRI, I believe." My statement was clearly leaving room for doubt. I was obviously saying it in a way that meant that I thought it was an SSRI but wasn't sure. If you missed out on that, I'm sorry. I'm not a freakin' doctor who has this all memorized for god sakes! In fact, I've been told by more than one doc that I know more about my meds than they do. So please forgive me for being human.

odyssey
01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
04/01/14 CD4- 898  42%   VL-

Offline sharkdiver

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Re: sex drive
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2010, 05:42:03 PM »
That's why I said "which is an SSRI, I believe." My statement was clearly leaving room for doubt. I was obviously saying it in a way that meant that I thought it was an SSRI but wasn't sure. If you missed out on that, I'm sorry. I'm not a freakin' doctor who has this all memorized for god sakes! In fact, I've been told by more than one doc that I know more about my meds than they do. So please forgive me for being human.

odyssey

it wasn't that clear or obvious. You could have said "oh I guess your right." But that's neither here nor there at this point.

Offline Hoover

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Re: sex drive
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2011, 09:38:00 AM »
What is sex drive?
Sometimes I am not sure if I have ever had one.
Only a few times in my life have I ever been horny.
Yes I like sex and have a good time at it, but I have never had the drive that my partner has had.
For the past 16 years we average 3 times per week but he would like more.

To help sex along we take:
Cnidium Monnimer
Horny Goat weed
Macca
Saw palmetto
tribulus terrestris 625 mg
Noni

These pills along with testosterone implants and I am still not horny......
No I am not depressed, I was this way long before the past few months of HIV, I just have a low drive.

The point of this is that maybe not all of us are not designed to have high sex drives.
Maybe we make more out of it and stress more over it than we should.
The best advice I can give to help with sex is to exercise.
Exercise releases natural endorphins which make you feel better.
If you feel good about yourself, you should feel better about sex....

Just my two cents worth.
I am not a doctor nor do I play one on TV, but I do live with one.

Cheers and better sex,
Hoover and Dr. T

Infection date: March 16, 2010
20/05/10 - CD4 348  VL 58,000  Lymph nodes in jaw painful!  Antioxidants started.
01/06/10 - CD4 428  VL?
24/06/10 - CD4 578  VL 9,800
13/07/10 - CD4 620  VL?
04/09/10 - CD4 648  VL?
01/11/10 - CD4 710  VL?   CD8 972
16/12/10    CD4 738  VL?  CD8  896   
02/02/11    CD4 520 (month of parasites and new lab)
14/03/11 started Truvida and Sustiva (Efavirenz)
04/07/11 CD4 686 VL 75 CD8 588  41%
10/10/11 CD4 757  45%  VL UD

Offline mecch

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Re: sex drive
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2011, 11:04:31 AM »
I have never heard that SSRI's decrease "sex drive".  Rather, there is a risk of delayed ejaculation, no ejaculation, or impotence.   In fact if SSRIs do their work, then depression lifts and sex drive would be better, I would think.
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: sex drive
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2011, 11:10:01 AM »
a sex drive with a dry orgasm is like continuing to take street drugs that provide no high
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Re: sex drive
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2011, 11:12:47 AM »
That's a silly way to look at sexual desire and the sex act itself - that's its all about the cumming.  I mean sex can be that but its also proven that intimacy and touch is very important. It seems to me that many many people regularly have sex without overdue worry whether they cum or not. 
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: sex drive
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2011, 11:21:32 AM »
That's a silly way to look at sexual desire and the sex act itself - that's its all about the cumming.  I mean sex can be that but its also proven that intimacy and touch is very important. It seems to me that many many people regularly have sex without overdue worry whether they cum or not. 

Such angoisse my dear!  Leave me to view sex as I wish.
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Re: sex drive
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2011, 04:37:45 PM »
I have never heard that SSRI's decrease "sex drive".  Rather, there is a risk of delayed ejaculation, no ejaculation, or impotence.   In fact if SSRIs do their work, then depression lifts and sex drive would be better, I would think.

"Many people have approached their depression with the belief that it is lifelong for them. They begin taking an antidepressant and find their sexual desire and sometimes functioning make a change for the worse. That's when I recommend that people not think of dealing with their depression by medication only and that they work toward getting off the antidepressant.

So far, fairly good results have been found for treating depression when antidepressants are combined with cognitive behavioral therapy. I recommend that you consider that approach.

Right now, sexual side effects are found with most antidepressant medications. If you have the patience and the fortitude to do a trial of several different ones to see if you can be on one that does not affect you that way, that would be another approach."

From: http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/antidepressants-your-sex-drive

odyssey

P.S. I have also seen enough psychiatrists and been told by so many of them that the various antidepressants I have been on might cause a drop in libido.
01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
04/01/14 CD4- 898  42%   VL-

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Re: sex drive
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2011, 09:09:05 AM »
Well I don't doubt the message you received.
But my swiss psychiatrist poopooed such research and said the opposite - its emotional if its happens. The chems might just lower performance.
Whatever.
At least I like my doc's answer better.  Glass half full or half empty, you see.
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Re: sex drive
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2011, 11:36:58 AM »
im horny all the time. the hiv virus hasnt affected this stud.

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Re: sex drive
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2011, 02:43:29 PM »
I have had HIV for right at two years now and all has been OK, but lately i have not had any desire to have sex with my husband and was thinking this could have something to do with my HIV. Does anyone have any input on this subject.

My sex drive went down too. Following could be reasons
1.We work too much in this country
2.Deep down in my heart iam scared of HIV
3. It is becoming tougher to meet a man and i started to enjoy masturbation.
4. My doctor thinks it could be my age (40) which i have to disagree with him as i see people older than me with high sex drive

At the same time i have friends(-ve) in my age group who have sex less than 10 times a year(none of us are in relationship)


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Re: sex drive
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2011, 04:12:52 AM »
im horny all the time. the hiv virus hasnt affected this stud.
it is interesting that for some it's the same, for others it has increased or decreased.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I3ba3lnFHik

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Offline mecch

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Re: sex drive
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2011, 04:29:12 AM »
Well if one is all run down before starting HAART, it seems like it might help the mojo in addition to the CD4.
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Re: sex drive
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2011, 05:04:18 AM »
Well if one is all run down before starting HAART, it seems like it might help the mojo in addition to the CD4.
I think also it depends on the medications and the individual reaction to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I3ba3lnFHik

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