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Offline WillyWump

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Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« on: December 21, 2010, 09:05:03 PM »
My nuts are noticably shrinking, so much so that I am beginning to become self conscious about them. It's like walking out of Macy's with a nice fancy bag, but nothing in it.

I am injecting 1 ml of Testosterone Cyponate every 10-14 days for the last 3 months.

For those of you that ahve been on replacement therapy is there anything I can do to stop this? Someone mentioned using Estrogen on top of the Test but I am not sure my doc would be down with prescribing me estrogen.

Ideas?

Also, If my Test levels are in normal range this next visit will the doc take me off the test immediately? Or am I in a vicious cycle of having to take the Test indefinitly?

-Will
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2010, 10:18:24 PM »
Well, you're going to get the I told you so from me! LOL. Testicular shrinkage is a common side effect of steroid (testosterone) use in men. Why do you think bodybuilders have tiny balls? Another possible side effect is breast growth. Hopefully you haven't had that yet. The ball shrinkage is because the testosterone you are taking is causing your body to not need to produce its own. Breast growth comes from the extra testosterone being converted into an estrogen like hormone through I process I'm not quite sure of, but know it happens.

Talk to your doc ASAP Wumpster! I don't want you not to be able to fill out those briefs at AMG next year!

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12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2010, 10:20:29 PM »
My nuts shrunk up years ago when I was injecting Testosterone but went back to normal when I stopped .

I was told by my doctor I would never be able to stop hormone replacement therapy and acheave normal levels but I had no problems maintaining my levels after I stopped the injections .  

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 03:19:21 AM »
For what's it worth, I think small balls are cute.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2010, 06:59:30 AM »
I have a lot of expertise in this area.  If you'd like to send me private pics, I'll be glad to take a look. ;D
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2010, 08:04:08 AM »
Well, you're going to get the I told you so from me! LOL. Testicular shrinkage is a common side effect of steroid (testosterone) use in men. Why do you think bodybuilders have tiny balls? Another possible side effect is breast growth. Hopefully you haven't had that yet. The ball shrinkage is because the testosterone you are taking is causing your body to not need to produce its own. Breast growth comes from the extra testosterone being converted into an estrogen like hormone through I process I'm not quite sure of, but know it happens.


odyssey

I understand WHY it happens, I'm asking if there is anything I can do or take to stem the shrinkage. For instance, I added Saw Palmetto to prevent hair loss, is there anything I can add to help the balls? All my searches turn up nada.

No titties, my pushups are keeping that area nice and hard.

JG- Good to know they will return to normal size once I stop, hopefully after a few months I can start titrating the testo down.

-W
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2010, 08:58:46 AM »
I understand WHY it happens, I'm asking if there is anything I can do or take to stem the shrinkage. For instance, I added Saw Palmetto to prevent hair loss, is there anything I can add to help the balls? All my searches turn up nada.

No titties, my pushups are keeping that area nice and hard.

JG- Good to know they will return to normal size once I stop, hopefully after a few months I can start titrating the testo down.

-W


Pushups will indeed keep your pec's nice and hard, but won't keep your male mammary glands from growing.
I suffered from gynecomastia during puberty, had them surgically removed at the age of 17....cringe from the thought of male titties

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2010, 09:57:39 AM »
Quote
male titties

I prefer the word Moobs :)

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2010, 10:31:26 AM »
There are some suggestions in this thread on another message board. Make sure you speak to your doctor before you try anything. And google "shrinking testicles" - with the quote marks - and you'll get plenty of hits.

Estrogen is the last thing you want to take. It's excessive estrogen that is causing your problem in the first place.



ps - Miss P told you so! ;D
« Last Edit: December 22, 2010, 10:33:15 AM by Ann »
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2010, 10:40:40 AM »
I understand WHY it happens, I'm asking if there is anything I can do or take to stem the shrinkage. For instance, I added Saw Palmetto to prevent hair loss, is there anything I can add to help the balls? All my searches turn up nada.

No titties, my pushups are keeping that area nice and hard.

JG- Good to know they will return to normal size once I stop, hopefully after a few months I can start titrating the testo down.

-W

Jeez, do you think I have any idea. You of anyone here should know that I don't have any balls to shrink from my usage of testosterone, lol. But yeah, I agree with Ann. Estrogen is really not the way to go. That will most likely make the problem worse, not to mention increase your chances of man titty growth. I still say talk to your doc about this, he or she will probably have some good advice. I've never really been one for getting medical opinions over the 'net.

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01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
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11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
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12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2010, 11:48:01 AM »
I don't have any balls to shrink

I disagree, Odyssey. I think you have more balls than most. ;)
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2010, 11:51:48 AM »
I disagree, Odyssey. I think you have more balls than most. ;)

Aww shucks Ann *blushes*. Well then, I guess we'll have to say my balls are shrink proof!  :P ;D

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01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
04/01/14 CD4- 898  42%   VL-

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2010, 12:39:30 PM »
I have not had that problem, WW...

Let me make a suggestion....go to FortTroff website....get you a "bull nuts" ball stretcher....

What have you got to lose?  LOL    PM me for details, if you're interested.....

hugs, Alan
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2010, 12:42:50 PM »
I've been taking testosterone for 3 years and don't notice anything out of the ordinary.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2010, 12:44:28 PM »
I've been taking testosterone for 3 years and don't notice anything out of the ordinary.
 

With your balls or Willy's ?

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2010, 01:18:17 PM »
 

With your balls or Willy's ?

I've also been taking testosterone for over three years and I've never had a problem with Willy's balls either.  ;D :D ;) 8) ::) :P
01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
04/01/14 CD4- 898  42%   VL-

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2010, 02:00:39 PM »
Accord to Harold M. Reed, aka "The Penis Doctor", silicon injections are not the way to go:

 I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SILICONE INJECTIONS IN MY SCROTUM DUE TO YEARS OF STEROID USE LEAVING MY TESTICLES SOMEWHAT ATROPHIED AND A LOT OF EMPTY SCROTAL SPACE. IS THIS A SERVICE YOU WOULD PERFORM?
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Please review the attached.  Please do not opt for silicone injections into your scrotum as this will at best create a fluff bag, may injure your testes even further.  Also look at silicone injection disasters http://penisdoctor.com/silicone.htm (several photos).

Consider insertion of soft silicone ovoids which can be almost any size you wish.  I will make some recommendations of course.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2010, 02:28:11 PM »

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2010, 04:31:40 PM »
While the shrinking balls are unfortunate, are you otherwise happy with the effects of the testosterone?  Maybe its a side effect you make peace with until perhaps the time you don't need the testosterone and your balls kick into action again.  if you get good wood and the balls still feel good, isn't that still AOK?

I read the letter about testicle implants.  That seems pretty cool if one were to loose one or two, but how would they do that if someone already has two tiny balls. Wouldn't it start to feel or look a bit mutant?  Not that it can't be natural. A guy in my college had three nuts. He was legendary among the ladies cause he was also well hung, and rich to boot. 
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2010, 05:03:36 PM »
There are some suggestions in this thread on another message board.


Thanks Ann, awesome link. Lot of good info in there, I've made notes about some of the possible remedies and will be talking to my doctor about them.

While the shrinking balls are unfortunate, are you otherwise happy with the effects of the testosterone? 

The shrinking balls are definitly not a deal killer.  I am thoroughly pleased with the upside of testo replacement, such as the energy, etc... 

The testicle implants are a "Hell no" and will never, ever consider that.

The ball size is not a big deal at this point, but they are noticably smaller so I want to nip it in the bud if possible, although I doubt it is even noticable to anyone else (we are our own worst critic).

As far as the titties that WOULD be a deal killer, I would definitly stop the therapy if I thought I was getting growing knockers.

-Will

PS @Matty- thanks for your comforting raisin post. I can always count on you to cheer me up.
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2010, 05:05:37 PM »
While the shrinking balls are unfortunate, are you otherwise happy with the effects of the testosterone?  Maybe its a side effect you make peace with until perhaps the time you don't need the testosterone and your balls kick into action again.  if you get good wood and the balls still feel good, isn't that still AOK?

I read the letter about testicle implants.  That seems pretty cool if one were to loose one or two, but how would they do that if someone already has two tiny balls. Wouldn't it start to feel or look a bit mutant?  Not that it can't be natural. A guy in my college had three nuts. He was legendary among the ladies cause he was also well hung, and rich to boot. 

Yeah, I agree. I can't imagine they would use those silicone testicle implants on someone with two already existent balls, even if they were on the smallish side. They do use them to replace testicles that have to be removed, or in the case of us transguys, to create testicles when we have bottom surgery. But if you put a ball where there already is one, that just would be weird!

odyssey
01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
04/01/14 CD4- 898  42%   VL-

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2010, 05:09:25 PM »
PS @Matty- thanks for your comforting raisin post. I can always count on you to cheer me up.

Merry fuckin' Christmas, doll. :)

MtD

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2010, 06:55:22 AM »
Is this drop in testosterone related to HIV or a medication side effect?

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2010, 11:01:57 AM »
Is this drop in testosterone related to HIV or a medication side effect?

That's the golden question. I still cannot get my doctor to commit to saying HIV caused my low T. She says there are no relaible studies indicating such. My level was so low that she believes it was an issue prior to being diagnosed. The main concern with her was the effects Low T + Truvada would have on my bones, thus she placed me on replacement therapy, secondary to that was the fatigue I was experiencing.

-W
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6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2010, 07:17:38 PM »
That's the golden question. I still cannot get my doctor to commit to saying HIV caused my low T. She says there are no relaible studies indicating such. My level was so low that she believes it was an issue prior to being diagnosed. The main concern with her was the effects Low T + Truvada would have on my bones, thus she placed me on replacement therapy, secondary to that was the fatigue I was experiencing.

-W
Did you get a bone scan?
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2010, 07:41:25 PM »
Did you get a bone scan?

No, I've never had a D Scan. I suppose I should request one.

-W
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Last Labs-
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6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2010, 06:22:24 AM »
No, I've never had a D Scan. I suppose I should request one.

-W
Yeah, you have to requet it for your doctor wont unless brake your bones due to calcuim loss.  You might try Vitamin D to help boost your testosterone levels.  here's and article

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21154195
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2010, 08:10:13 AM »
Will,
With our use of testosterone injections and now even the implants, we suffer from shrinking balls also!
To keep ours normal size, we use Pregnyl.
This comes in two ampules, one of the pregnyl and the other is a solvent to make 1ml.
(Each ampule lasts about a month.)
I load 5 of the 1ml syringes with the pregnyl and inject 3 units daily sub-Q.
Yes I reuse the syringes until they are empty and never had an issue, as loading each with only 3 units is not practical. The last injection can have a dull needle! (keep refrigerated)
Not sure which country my partner uses to purchase the stuff, but it works for the BB balls.

This is not a suggestion or advice for anyone, I am only stating what we do with our doctor's approval.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2010, 09:25:46 AM »
Will,
With our use of testosterone injections and now even the implants, we suffer from shrinking balls also!
To keep ours normal size, we use Pregnyl.
This comes in two ampules, one of the pregnyl and the other is a solvent to make 1ml.
(Each ampule lasts about a month.)
I load 5 of the 1ml syringes with the pregnyl and inject 3 units daily sub-Q.
Yes I reuse the syringes until they are empty and never had an issue, as loading each with only 3 units is not practical. The last injection can have a dull needle! (keep refrigerated)
Not sure which country my partner uses to purchase the stuff, but it works for the BB balls.

This is not a suggestion or advice for anyone, I am only stating what we do with our doctor's approval.

Good luck,
Hoover and Dr. T
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« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2010, 10:39:06 AM »
lolwut... you folks inject stuff in your balls for cosmetic reasons?
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« Reply #30 on: December 25, 2010, 10:24:12 PM »
Is it just your balls that shrink on testosterone or does your johnson shrink as well.   Got to tell ya.  It seems to be something new every day.

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« Reply #31 on: December 25, 2010, 11:27:34 PM »
Testicle injections?  Am I missing something here?
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #32 on: December 26, 2010, 12:54:28 AM »
Re the male boobs side-effect, I've read it is primarily caused by coming off T too fast.  I was contemplating trying steroids for vanity many years ago and bought a book called something like "The Steroid Bible."  It warned against coming off testosterone too fast.  If you do so, your body is effectively void of testosterone until your gonads can ramp up production again... which can take weeks. In the meantime, you begin to develop female characteristics.... the male boobs.  I seem to remember that you should take a full six weeks to "cycle down" off steroids.  It's a rapid climb up and a gradual descent back down.

Did you get a second opinion before starting testosterone?  I would guess your nuts are shrinking because they were functional before... that is producing testosterone.  They shrink because they no longer need to produce it.  You're injecting all you need so they shut down.  If your T was low, I would think the dose injected should be calibrated to bring it up to normal levels and not more. 

I would do some reading on this.  Given steroids have been used for nearly forty years, there's plenty of written documentation available.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #33 on: December 26, 2010, 01:04:13 AM »
I'll only purchase underwear at Macy's.  If you want a "fancy bag" you'd do better to head to Neimans.  Perhaps this is the source of the OP's problems? 

And yes, Miss P could have told you so.  Plus they have valet parking.
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2010, 11:46:20 AM »
Is it just your balls that shrink on testosterone or does your johnson shrink as well.   

For me, it's just my testicles. My willy seems to have grown.

  Got to tell ya.  It seems to be something new every day.

Wut? what are you talking about?

Testicle injections?  Am I missing something here?

Who is injecting their balls? Hoover? I don't think he implied that?? or did he? I'm sure he is injecting the Preg sub Q in his butt or leg.

Did you get a second opinion before starting testosterone?  If your T was low, I would think the dose injected should be calibrated to bring it up to normal levels and not more. 


No second opinion. My T level checked at 32 (where, if I recall correctly, 250 is the low end of normal), I was placed on gel for 6 months, it rose to 40ish, was switched to patches for 6 or so months where I rose to 71. Doc switched me to Injections and I have not had a reading yet (get that next week).

I'll only purchase underwear at Macy's.  If you want a "fancy bag" you'd do better to head to Neimans.  Perhaps this is the source of the OP's problems? 


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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2010, 02:14:06 PM »
Willy When i said it seems to be something new everyday i meant that i discover new things about this virus every day.  I hear about a new side effect or something each day it seems.  And now i discover shrinking balls! Whats next? 

I guess since its making your little willy bigger is a positive trade off to the shrinking balls.  God giveth a little :-)

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« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2010, 02:21:21 PM »
little willy ... snort , giggle .

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2010, 02:50:04 PM »
Sub-Q injections go in the arms, thighs, butt cheeks or stomach.
Speaking of which, I forgot to inject us this morning!

Will, with shrinking balls, you can also start loosing your hair.
You wouldn't believe the regimen we use to keep that in check.
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2010, 03:13:55 PM »

It is hell trying to stay young.


Wumpy lies about his age on his profile -- don't be fooled.

On the other hand, Miss P fully embraces her Palm Beach blue-hair dowager status (though without all of the Lily Pulitzer prints).  And I'm still younger.
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« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2010, 04:27:14 PM »
Wumpy lies about his age on his profile -- don't be fooled.

On the other hand, Miss P fully embraces her Palm Beach blue-hair dowager status (though without all of the Lily Pulitzer prints).  And I'm still younger.
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2010, 04:35:08 PM »
in dog years...

now now Dragoon, don't be a bully
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2010, 09:04:35 PM »
Wumpy lies about his age on his profile -- don't be fooled.

And I'm still younger.

ok ok. I will be 43 next month, which makes me 2 years younger than you...2 very virile years younger might I add.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2010, 09:20:42 PM »
ok ok. I will be 43 next month, which makes me 2 years younger than you...2 very virile years younger might I add.

-W

And your youtube account with videos of your kids says you're 47.  Girl, don't make me go there.  Just because your testicles are the size of peas doesn't mean you get a free pass out of Failville.
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« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2010, 09:22:27 PM »
ok ok. I will be 43 next month, which makes me 2 years younger than you...2 very virile years younger might I add.

-W

Willy is freakin' hot, so who cares how old he is? I'm only 24 but I'd go out with him. He's good looking, has a great personality, and is sweet and genuine. And as he says, he's younger than you old queens :P. Rock on Wumpster!

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2010, 09:32:42 PM »
old queens?

I resemble that remark

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2010, 09:37:39 PM »
And your youtube account with videos of your kids says you're 47.  Girl, don't make me go there.  Just because your testicles are the size of peas doesn't mean you get a free pass out of Failville.

47, Puhhhhleaze Nancy. Dont be jealous cause Im purtier than you and have big testosterone guns.

Not sure what your looking at on Youtube, lol. Does it have us riding a Harley? If not it's not mine sweetums

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2010, 09:46:04 PM »
ok ok. I will be 43 next month, which makes me 2 years younger than you...2 very virile years younger might I add.

-W

It don't matter how old you say your are -- once someone, legitimately, calls you Grandpa --- you're old.   ;)

I was a mere 36 when that started -- and I'll be a proud 47 in Feb.  Remember -- getting old beats the alternative.

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« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2010, 09:54:48 PM »
It don't matter how old you say your are -- once someone, legitimately, calls you Grandpa --- you're old.   ;)


sigh. yes, that's true.
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2010, 10:27:38 PM »
47, Puhhhhleaze Nancy. Dont be jealous cause Im purtier than you and have big testosterone guns.

Not sure what your looking at on Youtube, lol. Does it have us riding a Harley? If not it's not mine sweetums

-W

Oh, it's yours honey -- now just scan your license and birth certificate and let's have us a good chuckle.

I'd hate to see how many inches you add onto your mancunt profile.
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2010, 10:46:19 PM »
Oh, it's yours honey -- now just scan your license and birth certificate and let's have us a good chuckle.

I'd hate to see how many inches you add onto your mancunt profile.

I have to subtract so I dont scare the sissies away.

My Youtube thingy doesnt have a birthdate in it, buuuuuut whatevs.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2010, 10:59:06 PM »
I have to subtract so I dont scare the sissies away.

My Youtube thingy doesnt have a birthdate in it, buuuuuut whatevs.

W

It did months ago until I made a reference about you lying about your age on here and that I'd found your actual name, after which the information just like totally and magically disappeared.  

I wonder if I took a screencap of that and have it on my hard drive back in Filthydelphia.  I keep files on certain members of AIDSmeds, you know.
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2010, 11:05:31 PM »
It did months ago until I made a reference about you lying about your age on here and that I'd found your actual name, after which the information just like totally and magically disappeared.  

I wonder if I took a screencap of that and have it on my hard drive back in Filthydelphia.  I keep files on certain members of AIDSmeds, you know.

LOL! please find it.

and yes, I'm well aware of your sleuthing abilities, and I have no doubt you have several entries on me. However your still wrong about the age. Your slipping in your old age.
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« Reply #52 on: December 27, 2010, 12:01:22 AM »
Is this where the ignore button or "get a life, who cares" comments apply?   Geez, you'd think this was an elementary school blog or something.  LoL

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« Reply #53 on: December 27, 2010, 05:32:08 AM »
now that was fun...
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #54 on: December 27, 2010, 08:36:41 AM »
Firstoff I feel for any person suffering from low testosterone. Personally I feel that it is hard enough to age gracefully without other factors robbing you not only of your appearance, but also your self confidence. I am new to all of this but I can only hope that I will be loved enough and love myself enough that I can accept whatever changes are in store for me not only as I age, but as I age as an HIV poz guy.

On a side note this post really turns my stomach. I really love all of you guys and I am eternally grateful for all of the support and advice I have found on this website. I was looking forward to the AMG gathering in SEA, but to be honest I don't allow drama into my personal life so why would I continue coming to a site where it's becoming less and less about getting positive support and more like mudslinging? I get that if this site was only medical advice and straight forward support that it would become boring to most, and I also understand that several of you guys have been here so long that you feel comfortable saying almost anything to one another.

I dunno I think I would enjoy this site more as a guest looking in and reading about this disease that I stare in the eyes everyday that I wake. I think because I have now gotten to know Will personally that I am defensive about him, and ofcourse I can only imagine that so many of you have the same relationships and feel and act the same way. I just hope that I never get to the point where I make "files" on anyone, much less people that I consider my friends. This site should be enjoyable, and quite frankly I think for me the enjoyment level has gone for now. I'm going to look for some active groups here in Ft Lauderdale and maybe some IRL support groups for the next phase of my diagnosis acceptance.

You guys are totally awesome and inspire me to live a long, healthy and full life... yes even you Miss P! Here's to a wonderful and peaceful 2011!
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #55 on: December 27, 2010, 08:50:44 AM »
I'd ignore the mudslinging.  It kinda comes with the territory and probably goes on in real life support groups.  I'd also take Ms. P's comments in jest.  Having met him twice, I can tell you that he is a gentlemen. 

43 or 45 is within the margins.

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« Reply #56 on: December 27, 2010, 09:35:10 AM »
Chillerz peeps. It's just the normal Philly-Willy sparring dont let it get to ya.

In spite of it all I got some really good info here. Me and my balls thank you.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #57 on: December 27, 2010, 10:07:57 AM »
Oh jesus, what a bunch of panty wetters -- La Wumpette and I PM each other daily and have done so for a year.  I'm just giving her some creative ribbing.  Some of you need to grow a pair of balls (larger than Wumpy's, which assuredly will return to their previous state if it's anything like when I went on and off testosterone shots myself years ago).

Frankly I've probably given Wumpy more personal support about the ins and outs of testosterone shots via private message than the rest of you will in this thread. 

As far as keeping "files" on fellow members that was a joke -- do you honestly think I sit and make screen caps of the lame manhunt profiles of you girls, when I could be utilizing that time for masturbation and porn torrenting?
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« Reply #58 on: December 27, 2010, 11:59:50 AM »
Who'd a thunk a thread about shrinking balls would take such a turn.  Relax girls

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« Reply #59 on: December 27, 2010, 01:49:09 PM »
Lak, seriously?  Some heads in here take everything too literally (I guess I would call them poz forums fundamentalists).  Feels like this place has become a gigantic eggshell where you have to mind your every step, and watch every word you say, as there is a high chance that someone's sensibilities are going to get hurt (or, G_d forbid, that someone will start screaming "bully" or something else).  To be frank it gets a little tiresome.

Very disappointed and feeling like I should be singing my own swan song.  
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« Reply #60 on: December 27, 2010, 03:45:20 PM »
Wow, tee hee, I mean, seriously?  Ms. P. is one of the finest persons on here, and it's obvious it was a joke.  Talk about too much drama.....
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« Reply #61 on: December 27, 2010, 04:05:36 PM »
I guess I would call them poz forums fundamentalists

A close examination of recent cable revelations by Wikileaks indicates the Poz Forums Fundamentalists may have ties to the HIV Disclosure Taliban.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #62 on: December 28, 2010, 05:30:59 PM »

Had my results today. Doc made me drop trou since I was freaking out over my balls. She proceeded to fondle my jewels and said they are normal size and said something about falling within average size range (I didn't know there was an average size range for testicles).

She refused to even entertain the idea of prescribing anything for my small balls, she indicated that if at some time in the future they fall below clinically average size we will discuss what to do. She's ok with taking Saw Palmetto to prevent any potential hair loss but was noncommittal on the efficacy of such.

With that being said, my testo is still low at 113 (although a far cry from where I started). She directed me to double the dosage to 2ml injected every 10-14 days. I'm sort of averse to doing that. But she said the plan is to get me into normal range in an attempt to reset the Testosterone levels and then start pulling back to see if my body can start making it again.

She said that yes, hopefully I will be able to stop replacement therapy at some point. She also confirmed that the testicles will return to "my normal size" once I am able to get off the injections.

With that, I deem this thread closed.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #63 on: December 28, 2010, 05:56:06 PM »
With that, I deem this thread closed.

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Deem all you want Willy Waisin Nuts, we decide when this thread ends. :)

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #64 on: December 28, 2010, 06:09:24 PM »
If your balls are within the average range now that they've shrank, I can only imagine what range they were in before. Hmm... drooling a little just thinking about it, lol. Too bad you didn't have a hot guy for a doc to fondle your boys for you  :(

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01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
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08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #65 on: December 28, 2010, 06:16:15 PM »
Deem all you want Willy Waisin Nuts, we decide when this thread ends. :)

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yarly... how utterly presumptuous for a man with miniature testicles.
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #66 on: December 28, 2010, 06:18:45 PM »
Dude has some balls, sorta.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #67 on: December 28, 2010, 06:21:20 PM »
how utterly presumptuous for a man with miniature testicles.

cute.

I dare you to say that to me later after I inject 2ml and put myself promptly into a roid rage.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #68 on: December 28, 2010, 06:24:04 PM »
cute.

I dare you to say that to me later after I inject 2ml and put myself promptly into a roid rage.

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8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #69 on: December 28, 2010, 06:24:44 PM »
cute.

I dare you to say that to me later after I inject 2ml and put myself promptly into a roid rage.

-w

Ah, but like you said you're "averse to doing that" so let's just cross that bridge when it actually happens, shall we?

Anywho, it's not me that needs to worry.  It's numbersguy when you swoop into FLL next month for National Twink Orgy Week.
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #70 on: December 28, 2010, 09:11:46 PM »
Is this drop in testosterone related to HIV or a medication side effect?


You know I was just considering that myself, as I have noticed a shrinkage, the writer in me was considering a novel where in the future geneticists, were actively using medication to achieve this effect, but then I digress.

 

   diag jan 08  vl 60,000 cd4 360
   started atripla, 708 could not afford cost of meds.
   stopped atripla 808
   started atripla 109  vl 90,000 cd4 250
   209 vl undect, cd4 275
   509 vl undect, cd4 325
   1009 vl undect, cd4 415
   0210  vl undect, cd4 435
   0610 vl undect, cd4 475
   0910 vl undect, cd4 500
   1110 vl undect, cd4 500
diag 08  vl 60,000 cd4 360
started atripla, 708
could not afford cost of meds.
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Changed meds Truvada 200-300
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #71 on: December 29, 2010, 12:39:31 PM »
Had my results today. Doc made me drop trou since I was freaking out over my balls. She proceeded to fondle my jewels and said they are normal size and said something about falling within average size range (I didn't know there was an average size range for testicles).

-The Wump

Well, that's just one woman's opinion.  Perhaps at the next AMG you could let everyone decide!  ;)
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Apr 18/10 cd4 920 vl 268 cd% 28
Jun 19/10 cd4 450 vl 60 cd% 25
Aug 15/10 cd4 680 vl 205 cd% 27
Apr 3/11 cd4 780 vl <40 cd% 30
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #72 on: December 29, 2010, 01:25:52 PM »
Perhaps at the next AMG you could let everyone decide!  ;)

I'll pay good money to watch Jan fondle Wumpy's tiny nut sack at the Meet & Greet.  We'll need to alter the name to Meat & Eat though.
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #73 on: December 29, 2010, 02:15:33 PM »
I'll pay good money to watch Jan fondle Wumpy's tiny nut sack at the Meet & Greet.  We'll need to alter the name to Meat & Eat though.

I believe that situations like the one mentioned are the reason we invented the phrase "Come having had."

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #74 on: December 29, 2010, 02:42:35 PM »
There is a median size for dicks, why hot for balls also.
A gay friend just shared his ridiculous theory that gay guys have smaller nuts than straight guys.   ???
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #75 on: May 24, 2011, 01:22:44 PM »
I have a lot of expertise in this area.  If you'd like to send me private pics, I'll be glad to take a look. ;D
Private pics. Give me a break you perv. Why do you need to see his nuts. He said they shrunk. So thats that. You seeing pics will change nothing. Your not a doctor just another gay pervert

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #76 on: May 24, 2011, 01:27:03 PM »
Private pics. Give me a break you perv. Why do you need to see his nuts. He said they shrunk. So thats that. You seeing pics will change nothing. Your not a doctor just another gay pervert

Hey sweetie, what's your IQ? It's obvious this was a joke. Nice though calling someone a pervert.
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #77 on: May 24, 2011, 01:57:36 PM »
Private pics. Give me a break you perv. Why do you need to see his nuts. He said they shrunk. So thats that. You seeing pics will change nothing. Your not a doctor just another gay pervert

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #78 on: May 26, 2011, 05:33:53 AM »
Meh, quite yer whining and just go work out with free weights at the gym. That will build your testosterone levels fast. Let's make a deal, how's about we trade a couple hundred nanograms of my testosterone for some cd4's of yours?

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #79 on: May 26, 2011, 06:22:29 AM »
Meh, quite yer whining and just go work out with free weights at the gym. That will build your testosterone levels fast.

Ahh, you're a brilliant one aren't ya.

I've never not worked out and still managed to have the lowest Test level my doc has seen. However, now a year later my test level is finally low normal thanks to replacement therapy.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #80 on: May 26, 2011, 06:56:37 AM »
Private pics. Give me a break you perv. Why do you need to see his nuts. He said they shrunk. So thats that. You seeing pics will change nothing. Your not a doctor just another gay pervert
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Resurrectingcting a thread to make a personal attack is so declasse.  Start a new thread if you must do so!  If you think this is a huge perv comment, you're bound to have a bumpy ride and better hold on to your girdle.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #81 on: May 26, 2011, 11:24:53 PM »
Ahh, you're a brilliant one aren't ya.

I've never not worked out and still managed to have the lowest Test level my doc has seen. However, now a year later my test level is finally low normal thanks to replacement therapy.

-Will

And how are the nuts?  Any growth since December?
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Aug 15/10 cd4 680 vl 205 cd% 27
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #82 on: May 27, 2011, 09:59:56 AM »
And how are the nuts?  Any growth since December?

"From tiny acorns grow might oaks."

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #83 on: May 27, 2011, 10:19:21 AM »
"From tiny acorns grow might oaks."

More like "tiny acorns at the base of my Mighty Oak" (actually its more like a towering Redwood)

My grapes have not grown, but I've embraced them and become quite fond of them.

Thanks for everyone's concern.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #84 on: May 27, 2011, 10:24:33 AM »
Being the perv I am, I'm almost afraid to make this comment;

It's not true without pics!  We demand proof!

That is still so funny.  I'm probably one of the least perv here and am the one who got called out on it.
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #85 on: May 27, 2011, 10:30:52 AM »
More like "tiny acorns at the base of my Mighty Oak" (actually its more like a towering Redwood)

My grapes have not grown, but I've embraced them and become quite fond of them.

Thanks for everyone's concern.

-WIll

Next you will be telling us you have Boston fern pubes .

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #86 on: May 27, 2011, 10:44:37 AM »
Next you will be telling us you have Boston fern pubes .

No, it would be maidenhair fern.  :D
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #87 on: May 27, 2011, 08:06:10 PM »
If we can't get pics, we at least need the long form girth certificate!

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12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #88 on: May 27, 2011, 08:12:41 PM »
If we can't get pics, we at least need the long form girth certificate!

odyssey

Don't think I can TRUMP that one! :D
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #89 on: May 27, 2011, 08:19:09 PM »
So you 2 are "Girthers" now?
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #90 on: May 27, 2011, 08:21:04 PM »
Spray some Miracle Grow on em Willy. 

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #91 on: May 27, 2011, 08:35:08 PM »
So you 2 are "Girthers" now?

I like the ring of that;  the girther party!

What's our platform gonna be?  A twink in every home?
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