Quantcast

Subscribe to:
POZ magazine
E-newsletters
Join POZ: Facebook MySpace Twitter Pinterest
Tumblr Google+ Flickr MySpace
POZ Personals
Sign In / Join
Username:
Password:
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
August 22, 2014, 04:11:21 AM

Login with username, password and session length


Members
Stats
  • Total Posts: 635579
  • Total Topics: 48218
  • Online Today: 214
  • Online Ever: 585
  • (January 07, 2014, 02:31:47 PM)
Users Online
Users: 3
Guests: 169
Total: 172

Welcome


Welcome to the POZ/AIDSmeds Community Forums, a round-the-clock discussion area for people with HIV/AIDS, their friends/family/caregivers, and others concerned about HIV/AIDS.  Click on the links below to browse our various forums; scroll down for a glance at the most recent posts; or join in the conversation yourself by registering on the left side of this page.

Privacy Warning:  Please realize that these forums are open to all, and are fully searchable via Google and other search engines. If you are HIV positive and disclose this in our forums, then it is almost the same thing as telling the whole world (or at least the World Wide Web). If this concerns you, then do not use a username or avatar that are self-identifying in any way. We do not allow the deletion of anything you post in these forums, so think before you post.

  • The information shared in these forums, by moderators and members, is designed to complement, not replace, the relationship between an individual and his/her own physician.

  • All members of these forums are, by default, not considered to be licensed medical providers. If otherwise, users must clearly define themselves as such.

  • Forums members must behave at all times with respect and honesty. Posting guidelines, including time-out and banning policies, have been established by the moderators of these forums. Click here for “Am I Infected?” posting guidelines. Click here for posting guidelines pertaining to all other POZ/AIDSmeds community forums.

  • We ask all forums members to provide references for health/medical/scientific information they provide, when it is not a personal experience being discussed. Please provide hyperlinks with full URLs or full citations of published works not available via the Internet. Additionally, all forums members must post information which are true and correct to their knowledge.

  • Product advertisement—including links; banners; editorial content; and clinical trial, study or survey participation—is strictly prohibited by forums members unless permission has been secured from POZ.

To change forums navigation language settings, click here (members only), Register now

Para cambiar sus preferencias de los foros en español, haz clic aquí (sólo miembros), Regístrate ahora

Finished Reading This? You can collapse this or any other box on this page by clicking the symbol in each box.

Author Topic: A Less Than Merry Christmas  (Read 1109 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Matty the Damned

  • Member
  • Posts: 12,228
  • Ninja Please
A Less Than Merry Christmas
« on: December 16, 2010, 02:04:58 AM »
A boat filled with asylum seekers has crashed on the coast of Christmas Island. Christmas Island is in the Indian Ocean and is an Australian territory.

At this stage we understand that 28 people are dead. 7 are infants or children, 9 are women and 12 are men.

(link)

This situation is intolerable. The plight of those seeking asylum in Australia is the direct result of the policies of both major political parties.

I am ashamed to be both a member and a functionary of the Australian Labor Party.

MtD

/edit: corrected mangled link/
« Last Edit: December 16, 2010, 02:08:14 AM by Matty the Damned »

Offline tednlou2

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,815
Re: A Less Than Merry Christmas
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2010, 02:19:02 AM »
I saw this on the news tonight and thought about you.  This is very sad.  I heard they can't even be sure just how many people were on the boat.  They reported 27 found dead, so obviously another victim was found.  I can only imagine what it is like for someone in their country to give them no choice but get on a rickety boat to seek something better.

Offline anniebc

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,939
  • AM member since 2003
Re: A Less Than Merry Christmas
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2010, 03:15:45 AM »
I watched this on the news Matty and wept, how desperate they must be for a new and better life that they put themselves and their children through such dangerous risks in order to find it....so very sad.

In sadness
Jan :'(
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Never knock on deaths door..ring the bell and run..he really hates that.

Offline fearless

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,191
Re: A Less Than Merry Christmas
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 07:48:41 PM »
Absolutely devastating.

Asylum seekers also seem to bring out the very worst in us as well. when the story broke, i was reading both newspapers online for the coverage. the readers comments in the telecrap were abhorrent. i just hung my head in shame at what my fellow countrymen were saying

Be forgiving, be grateful, be optimistic

Offline GSOgymrat

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,009
  • HIV+ since 1993. INTJ
Re: A Less Than Merry Christmas
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2010, 08:16:40 PM »
Just horrible.

Offline anniebc

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,939
  • AM member since 2003
Re: A Less Than Merry Christmas
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2010, 09:32:49 PM »
One onlooker said they were so close he could almost reach out and touch them, but the wild weather and waves that were thrashing them against the rocks stopped them from going in to help, he said he would be haunted for the rest of his life, all he and the others could do was watch the terror on the faces of those on the boat struggling, knowing there was nothing that those on shore could do they could do to prevent the deaths, he could hear them crying out...the poor man was in tears.

In sadness
Jan :'(
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Never knock on deaths door..ring the bell and run..he really hates that.

Offline Jody

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,818
Re: A Less Than Merry Christmas
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2010, 10:36:18 PM »
An awful tragedy, the razor sharp limestone rocks and the rough seas and people, often terrorized in their countries of origin, are now facing the terror of death.  Christmas Island, part of Australia, is actually much closer to Jakarta, Indonesia than it is to Perth.  People, often forced to leave with nothing but the shirts on their backs and no place willing to take them are at the mercy of slave traders (yes - even in 2010),  criminals and of course mother nature.

So once a poor soul makes it on land in Australia they have a much better chance of gaining legal asylum and remaining in Australia, which might be paradise for a broken person.  It is an issue of great passion everywhere on earth, and probably always has been, with people looking down on others because of racial, religious, sexual or cultural differences and here in the US it is the Mexican border that draws the ire of so many of our population.  Other factors in play are less jobs, certainly less good paying ones in many towns and cities and that fear drives folks to say, and worse, do things that are not very kind.  But when people face the terror and tragedy those folks dying from an awful ordeal went through you'd like to think those folks sitting home and writing to newspapers would be a bit more gracious.  What if it were you?

But as Jan points out there were many kind hearted and good people who did so much at their own peril amongst the rocks and what not to try to assist any way their gracious hearts could.  That was nice to see as well.

Jody :(

« Last Edit: December 16, 2010, 10:39:38 PM by Jody »
"Wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world".
 "Try to discover that you are the song that the morning brings."

Grateful Dead

 


Terms of Membership for these forums
 

© 2014 Smart + Strong. All Rights Reserved.   terms of use and your privacy
Smart + Strong® is a registered trademark of CDM Publishing, LLC.