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Offline Pecker

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TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« on: December 03, 2010, 12:12:45 PM »
Hi, is anyone out there experienced enough with this subject, who could give me some insight testosterone shots.

I have to give myself a shot of testosterone every month with a 1" and 1/2" needle with a 22 gage.  I am really terrified of needles and so I get really nervous every time I'm about to do it.  I get really nervous and shaky.

When I finally stick the needle all the way in and start pushing the testosterone into my butt, the needle starts sliding out.

Question is:  Does the whole 1" and 1/2" have to be in?  Does the testosterone get wasted if needle isn't all the way in?  What happens to the testosterone if by the time the whole dose is in, the needle has come out about 1/4" - 1/2" out?

Am I doing it right, or do I need someone to do it for me?

Please help.  I feel like I'm just wasting the testosterone if the needle is not all the way in and feel like I need to repeat the shot. 

Am I okay if the needle slides out that much.  I'm pretty skinny to begin with, and I don't have a lot of muscle down there, and I do bleed, but just a little bit.

Any help will be highly appreciated.
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Offline RapidRod

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2010, 12:57:19 PM »
You have to insert the needle to the hub and inject into the muscle at a 90 degree angle. Why are you doing that instead of gel? I went from needles to gel early on. Hell with that thick oil shit.

Offline MarcoPoz

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2010, 01:00:33 PM »
Try asking your nurse to take some time and walk you through the procedure a few times.  Have her help you, then have her watch you do it yourself.  This is a medical procedure--makes sense to have trained medical staff help you learn how to do it.

Just my thoughts.

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2010, 01:12:35 PM »
Hi Pecker , I have a friend who will do anything to avoid having to give himself his testosterone shot .

Most times in the beginning he wanted me to give him the shot and I did it until he was comfortable with doing it himself . If you have a friend or somebody to help out until you feel good about doing the deed yourself that might help . 

Offline Hoover

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2010, 01:14:15 PM »
Before we got our implants, we did the shots monthly also.
Our pharmacist would stick that thing all the way in to the hub!
It was a slow injection and I never liked getting or at times giving it......
What I hated worse was the roller coaster feel.
Each week had a different issue, but we were taking sustanon (sp) which has several different types of testosterone in it. I hope never to go back to shots.

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Offline WillyWump

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2010, 02:18:38 PM »
 Pecker,

I was told by the nurse to push the needle at a 90 degree angle all the way in until you reach the hub, then pull back on the plunger just slightly to make sure you do not draw back any blood, if there is no blood then inject. If there is blood then you have to start over, with a new syringe and Test.

She did not specifically say what would happen if you do not push all the way in to the hub, she just said to "make sure" to do so. I try to stick all the way to the hub but sometimes I get freaked out and stop with just a bit of the needle showing. I cannot say I have noticed a difference either way, except if I do not stick the needle all the way to the hub then when I pull out there is alot of blood.

If you are going all the way to the hub and during the actual injection the needle slides out I would say you need to put more pressure on the syringe to hold it in there.

Self administering shots sucks. Each time I administer it seems the needle is bigger and I decided last night, after wasting 2 syringes, and 8 alcohol wipes that I am going to hang it up once and for all and just let the nurse do it.

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Offline RapidRod

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2010, 02:20:34 PM »
Pecker,

I was told by the nurse to push the needle at a 90 degree angle all the way in until you reach the hub, then pull back on the plunger just slightly to make sure you do not draw back any blood, if there is no blood then inject. If there is blood then you have to start over, with a new syringe and Test.

She did not specifically say what would happen if you do not push all the way in to the hub, she just said to "make sure" to do so. I try to stick all the way to the hub but sometimes I get freaked out and stop with just a bit of the needle showing. I cannot say I have noticed a difference either way, except if I do not stick the needle all the way to the hub then when I pull out there is alot of blood.

If you are going all the way to the hub and during the actual injection the needle slides out I would say you need to put more pressure on the syringe to hold it in there.

Self administering shots sucks. Each time I administer it seems the needle is bigger and I decided last night, after wasting 2 syringes, and 8 alcohol wipes that I am going to hang it up once and for all and just let the nurse do it.

-Will
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Offline odyssey

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2010, 04:11:00 PM »
Personally, I have a lot of experience giving myself T shots, as I have been doing it for over three years now. I tried both the gel and the patch, but had skin allergies to both. As far as pushing all the way to the hub, while it is ideal, with a 1.5 inch needle, it probably isn't completely necessary. I use only a 1 inch needle and it is plenty long enough to penetrate enough into the muscle to deliver the testosterone.

That being said, you mentioned you were injecting into your butt. I think that might be one of your problems. Self-injecting into the buttocks is notoriously hard to do, and can be quite painful, as you tend to tense up when you turn around to give yourself the shot. The difficulty lies in seeing yourself properly and getting the right aim and angle of penetration.

My recommendation, being a experienced shooter (or whatever you'd call me) would be to switch to giving yourself your shots in the lateral muscles that run down the outside of your thighs. If you look at the front of your upper legs, and run your hand from the top of your leg about half way down towards the outside, this is the ideal spot to inject. There is very little chance of hitting any major blood vessels or nerves, and you can easily sit down, inject, and hold the needle in deep while you do so.

Of course, I would also recommend you get training and approval from your doc in order to switch to leg shots, but I think he or she will probably okay it if you explain your problem. You can also ask about switching to one inch needles, which you won't have to stick in so far to reach the hub.

Best of luck!

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07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
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Offline Pecker

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2010, 05:32:37 PM »
Thanks a lot for all your responses, I really appreciate them.  Each answer helped out with some of my questions, but I especially like to thank Odyssey.  He had the best answer to my question and made me have more faith that within time I will get it better and next time I do it, I will make sure someone helps me.

As far as the other reponses, the shot is more conviniet, the most painful, but the most efficient and more convinient.  Rubbing the gel everyday, can be a hassle when you're on your way to work or somewhere.  I also had a skin reaction that still hasn't gone away from the patches.

I only have to do the shot twice a month and the dosage is a lot higher and it goes all directly into your blood stream.  So just my choice, I am sticking with the shots.  I have a very good doctor and he says that the shots are the best as far as all the forms the Testosterone comes in.  I have trust in him and I know he would never do anything that would hurt me.  He cares.  I just have to be a man about and quit whining, I guess, but thanks to everyone, especially odyssey.

Pecker

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Offline buginme2

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2010, 09:17:38 PM »
excuse the question here.
Why the testosterone shot in the first place?  And why (from reading this thread) does it appear to be common?
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2010, 09:22:00 PM »
this should be fascinating
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2010, 09:32:31 PM »
excuse the question here.
Why the testosterone shot in the first place?  And why (from reading this thread) does it appear to be common?

A fair number of guys take testosterone because of what is know as hypogonadism, which is when their bodies don't produce enough of the hormone naturally. It seems this tends to happen to guys with HIV a little more often than guys without HIV. Testosterone can also be used to treat HIV related wasting. Myself, I take testosterone because I am a transman, and as such, don't even have the capability to produce it naturally, so I must supplement it through weekly shots.

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03/10- stopped R/N/T
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10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
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12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

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Offline buginme2

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2010, 09:36:41 PM »

Thanks...That wasnt too facinating though P.  Is there more to it?
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2010, 09:47:03 PM »
Thanks...That wasnt too facinating though P.  Is there more to it?

I agree, boring answer! :)  We must be patient with the celebrated denizens of AIDSmeds to amuse us with flights of fancy.  Sadly La Wumpette is proving most disappointing this Friday evening... manhunt must be perking up in San Antonio tonight, either that or she's got explosive-D from another bad burrito.
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2010, 09:51:32 PM »
I agree, boring answer! :)  We must be patient with the celebrated denizens of AIDSmeds to amuse us with flights of fancy.  Sadly La Wumpette is proving most disappointing this Friday evening... manhunt must be perking up in San Antonio tonight, either that or she's got explosive-D from another bad burrito.

That, or the Wumpster is at a bathhouse. That could keep him occupied for awhile :P
01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
04/01/14 CD4- 898  42%   VL-

Offline odyssey

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2010, 09:53:34 PM »
Thanks...That wasnt too facinating though P.  Is there more to it?

Okay, how about this. Guys take testosterone to give them incredible raging boners and endless levels of horniness so they can fuck for hours on end. Was that a little more interesting? Because it would be somewhat true, testosterone treatment can reawaken a low sex drive.
01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
04/01/14 CD4- 898  42%   VL-

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2010, 09:55:10 PM »
I agree, boring answer! :)  We must be patient with the celebrated denizens of AIDSmeds to amuse us with flights of fancy.  Sadly La Wumpette is proving most disappointing this Friday evening... manhunt must be perking up in San Antonio tonight, either that or she's got explosive-D from another bad burrito.

whatevs.

Buggy,
I take Test shots because I have low Test, very low started at 32 and I am up to 70ish. Normal T is anywhere from 200-250 (I think). Why the shots? because the gel did not work for me, and the patch did not work for me.  

and it makes my Guns big.

-Wumpette
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6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

Current Meds: Prezista/Epzicom/ Norvir
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2010, 09:56:05 PM »
Wump there it is!
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2010, 10:03:08 PM »
Wump there it is!

Now can I go back to my Manhunt and burritos?
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Current Meds: Prezista/Epzicom/ Norvir
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2010, 10:05:52 PM »
It's 9 PM girl, if you've not had some nibbles yet and a trick en route you might as well start picking out a J-Lo flick.  You're in for the night ::)
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Offline hope_for_a_cure

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2010, 10:07:13 PM »
I want bigger Guns!

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2010, 10:14:19 PM »
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2010, 10:16:51 PM »
If that's what Wumpy looks like I'm Texas bound .

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2010, 10:18:30 PM »
HOT Damn Miss P.  I need me some of those roid boys like Tonight !  

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2010, 10:22:09 PM »
Ah, you girls are blanking -- thought you would.  That's the poz guy that had to leave Project Runway in the middle of the show three years ago.  Amazing how men over 40 with life threatening illnesses and beef up, ain't it? ::)
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2010, 10:27:59 PM »
When I did the shots, I used the outside of my thigh, alternating sides each week. The real advantage I found to doing it this way, is that you can shift your weight to the opposite leg, from where you are injecting, which prevents the muscles from tensing and makes the shot much less painful.

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2010, 10:33:17 PM »
Ah, you girls are blanking -- thought you would.  That's the poz guy that had to leave Project Runway in the middle of the show three years ago. 

Oh thats JAck , I hung out with him at Prohibition in NYC. Yummy.

and yes, MissP I have pics.

-Will
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Current Meds: Prezista/Epzicom/ Norvir
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2010, 10:37:34 PM »
I'd not figured you for a starfucker, Wumpy.  Makes sense though.
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2010, 10:38:07 PM »
I bet Wumpy looks like this well known pozzie on his big bad roid shots  ;)

Yeah, but the Wumpster has a bigger package. I've seen it.  :o
01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
04/01/14 CD4- 898  42%   VL-

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2010, 10:39:55 PM »
Yeah, but the Wumpster has a bigger package. I've seen it.  :o

Like that big Mary bottom is ever going to need to use it.

Anyways, I thought she'd promised to stop PMing people with fake cock shots months ago.
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2010, 10:42:16 PM »
Like that big Mary bottom is ever going to need to use it.

Maybe not, but I certainly enjoyed casting surreptitious glances at it while we roomed together. And I have every intention of doing the same next year in Seattle. Maybe I'll accidentally walk in on him in the shower, lol. :P
01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2010, 10:42:59 PM »
Like that big Mary bottom is ever going to need to use it.

Anyways, I thought she'd promised to stop PMing people with fake cock shots months ago.



I think its called a Texas kick stand  ;)

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2010, 10:46:45 PM »
Like that big Mary bottom is ever going to need to use it.


P if your trying to get a rise out of me it aint happenin, you should have tried last night when I was roid ragin.

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11-6-14 CD4- 871, UD
6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2010, 11:10:30 PM »
That Miss Philicia or Miss Philippina, or whoever-the-Testosterone-in-my-balls may be, (her name is so forgettable. Oh and is it really Miss or triple Ms. cause there is a difference, which I'm sure she knows and one doesn't chage towards the other by marriage only, it can happen by being a you-know-what)  seems to have an answer for everything.  Why do you drink water?  Why does the sun shine? Why are is my crack sideways instead of up and down?  Who cares if you can't get the point?  You're a not funny at all, MS. PHILLI CHEESE STAKE) keep your turds in your mouth and don't speak when you are not asked to.  If you don't know what Testosterone does and it doesn't affect you in anyway, shape or form, just go crap on something hard and sandpapery.  Your b*tchy, smart ass comments are not appreciated at all. If you have a problem with HIV men who need testosterone, write a letter to the reasearchers of HIV treatment and cure, maybe your nice fried-rice mouth will win you the Nobel Price.  Just shut up or I'll send my 9 year old neighbor to go slap you around and call you Sally!

And for every answer after this one that you post, you are agreeing to the fact that every person who has read your dumb hole, is picturing you on a stadium, on all fours, with a butch lesbian with a big dildo is behind you.

Yes, I'm very upset because I asked a rational question and all of a sudden it turns in a circus, with the monkey being the hurricane that ms. F, yeah, F 'cause like I said, she's so forgettable, really is because wherever she passes through, she don't leave a pole standing.

Stay away from the booth.  Pecker is mixing!!!

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2010, 11:12:53 PM »
That Miss Philicia or Miss Philippina, or whoever-the-Testosterone-in-my-balls may be, (her name is so forgettable. Oh and is it really Miss or triple Ms. cause there is a difference, which I'm sure she knows and one doesn't chage towards the other by marriage only, it can happen by being a you-know-what)  seems to have an answer for everything.  Why do you drink water?  Why does the sun shine? Why are is my crack sideways instead of up and down?  Who cares if you can't get the point?  You're a not funny at all, MS. PHILLI CHEESE STAKE) keep your turds in your mouth and don't speak when you are not asked to.  If you don't know what Testosterone does and it doesn't affect you in anyway, shape or form, just go crap on something hard and sandpapery.  Your b*tchy, smart ass comments are not appreciated at all. If you have a problem with HIV men who need testosterone, write a letter to the reasearchers of HIV treatment and cure, maybe your nice fried-rice mouth will win you the Nobel Price.  Just shut up or I'll send my 9 year old neighbor to go slap you around and call you Sally!

And for every answer after this one that you post, you are agreeing to the fact that every person who has read your dumb hole, is picturing you on a stadium, on all fours, with a butch lesbian with a big dildo is behind you.

Yes, I'm very upset because I asked a rational question and all of a sudden it turns in a circus, with the monkey being the hurricane that ms. F, yeah, F 'cause like I said, she's so forgettable, really is because wherever she passes through, she don't leave a pole standing.



omg wut!! I need to needle point that on a pillow, all of it.
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Last Labs-
11-6-14 CD4- 871, UD
6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

Current Meds: Prezista/Epzicom/ Norvir
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2010, 11:16:51 PM »
That Miss Philicia or Miss Philippina, or whoever-the-Testosterone-in-my-balls may be, (her name is so forgettable. Oh and is it really Miss or triple Ms. cause there is a difference, which I'm sure she knows and one doesn't chage towards the other by marriage only, it can happen by being a you-know-what)  seems to have an answer for everything.  Why do you drink water?  Why does the sun shine? Why are is my crack sideways instead of up and down?  Who cares if you can't get the point?  You're a not funny at all, MS. PHILLI CHEESE STAKE) keep your turds in your mouth and don't speak when you are not asked to.  If you don't know what Testosterone does and it doesn't affect you in anyway, shape or form, just go crap on something hard and sandpapery.  Your b*tchy, smart ass comments are not appreciated at all. If you have a problem with HIV men who need testosterone, write a letter to the reasearchers of HIV treatment and cure, maybe your nice fried-rice mouth will win you the Nobel Price.  Just shut up or I'll send my 9 year old neighbor to go slap you around and call you Sally!

And for every answer after this one that you post, you are agreeing to the fact that every person who has read your dumb hole, is picturing you on a stadium, on all fours, with a butch lesbian with a big dildo is behind you.

Yes, I'm very upset because I asked a rational question and all of a sudden it turns in a circus, with the monkey being the hurricane that ms. F, yeah, F 'cause like I said, she's so forgettable, really is because wherever she passes through, she don't leave a pole standing.




peckers first roid rage  :D

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2010, 11:25:13 PM »
Yeah, I know so little about testosterone.  I was only on injections for five years due to HIV-wasting (two instances, one of which caused me to file for disability) and then on Andgrogel another two years until going off of it.

Yep, definitely don't have a clue ::)  But hey Pecker, I didn't answer anything specific about injecting yourself because I always had a nurse in my doctor's office do it.  Is that an option for you instead of doing it yourself?  If not I agree that you should have someone give you a better demonstration on how to go about this, as that's the only way to get your nervousness down with doing it at home.

Hope you feel better tonight.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2010, 11:27:42 PM by Miss Philicia »
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2010, 11:38:08 PM »
Wow
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2010, 11:42:24 PM »
Yeah, I know so little about testosterone.  I was only on injections for five years due to HIV-wasting (two instances, one of which caused me to file for disability) and then on Andgrogel another two years until going off of it.

Where are you getting your information from?  If people who are HIV+ are getting disability, it's because the eraned it by working their guns off before becoming disabled.  Don't you know that disability calculated by how many points you have on your Social Security file?  Which FYI is how much they have worked.  (And also FYI, people who have never worked, never get disability, so think of that.)  It's the same reason why people retire.  Every tax payer deserves, by US laws, to get their money at the point that they qualify.  Please know the facts before you give your useless opinions.  You are ruthless, there are many people dying from this disease.  There are new-borns with it.  There are homeless kids with it.  There are so many more things about HIV that you should focus on other than what's convinient to you.  What do you get with all your BS?  Seriously if you are getting paid for it, whoever is paying you is getting ripped off.  I could do a better job insulting people I know nothing about, which is what you are doing.

Focus on the harm this disease is doing to OUR world, AND if I ever do get disability for having HIV and it's coming from YOUR paycheck, then say something about, but for as long as you do not even know what you're talking about, stay in the middle of the stadium with the butch lesbian and the dildo behind you.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2010, 11:48:39 PM by Pecker »
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2010, 11:45:30 PM »
Where are you getting your information from?  If people who are HIV+ are getting disability, it's because the eraned it by working their guns off before becomming disabled.  Don't you know that disability calculated by how many points you have on your Social Security file?  It's the same reason why people retire.  Every tax payer deserves, by US laws, to get their money at the point that they qualify.  Please know the fact before you give your useless opinions.  You are ruthless, there are many people dying from it.  There are new-borns with it.  There are homeless kids with it.  There are so many more things about HIV that you should focus on it other than what's convinient to you.  What do you get with all your BS?  Seriously if you are getting paid for it, whoever is paying you is getting ripped off.  I could do a better job insulting people I know nothing about, which is what you are doing.  Focus on the harm this disease is doing to OUR world, and if I ever do get disability for having HIV and it's coming from YOUR paycheck, then say something about, but for as long as you do not even know what you're talking about, stay in the middle of the stadium with the butch lesbian and the dildo behind me.

Uh, can you read?  I clearly stated that I'm currently collecting disability.
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2010, 11:46:05 PM »
Yo Pecker - your hostile comments are not appreciated.  If you haven't been reported to the mods yet, consider yourself reported now.  

Where are you getting your information from?  If people who are HIV+ are getting disability, it's because the eraned it by working their guns off before becomming disabled.  Don't you know that disability calculated by how many points you have on your Social Security file?  It's the same reason why people retire.  Every tax payer deserves, by US laws, to get their money at the point that they qualify.  Please know the fact before you give your useless opinions.  You are ruthless, there are many people dying from it.  There are new-borns with it.  There are homeless kids with it.  There are so many more things about HIV that you should focus on it other than what's convinient to you.  What do you get with all your BS?  Seriously if you are getting paid for it, whoever is paying you is getting ripped off.  I could do a better job insulting people I know nothing about, which is what you are doing.  Focus on the harm this disease is doing to OUR world, and if I ever do get disability for having HIV and it's coming from YOUR paycheck, then say something about, but for as long as you do not even know what you're talking about, stay in the middle of the stadium with the butch lesbian and the dildo behind me.
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Labs:
Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2010, 11:55:29 PM »
UM, whatever, I said what I said and I meant it.  And I will say it again if you need me to.  I asked a legitimate question.  Go ahead and report me, if this is how hateful it gets here, you would be doing me a favor...maybe I will start going to church instead...
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2010, 12:00:16 AM »
"The moral of the story is, who are you to judge, there is only one true Judge and that's God, so chill and let my Father do His Job"  On the rocks please!  And bartender, serve another drink to that dumb butt, it's on me, so he can see how devastated I feel.
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2010, 12:16:34 AM »
Yo Pecker - your hostile comments are not appreciated.  If you haven't been reported to the mods yet, consider yourself reported now.  


I just reported you, too, so we are even.  Is there anything else you're good at?  I just really hope that you reporting me doesn't get me sentenced to the electric chair.

If anyone agrees with me for asking a legitimate question and having the kind of impact it had on a lot of the guys here,  report this moron who supports the haters and biters on here. 

If this is a site to play like this, I might as well go to the playground in the park near by on the 4 inches of snow there are outside now and I can even get some exercise while I'm doing it.  I'm out of here.  I'm physcally tired, I'm gonna go to bed.  If anyone wants to join, you're more then welcome to.
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2010, 12:20:14 AM »
I just reported you, too, so we are even.  Is there anything else you're good at?  I just really hope that you reporting me doesn't get me sentenced to the electric chair.

If anyone agrees with me for asking a legitimate question and having the kind of impact it had on a lot of the guys here,  report this moron who supports the haters and biters on here. 

If this is a site to play like this, I might as well go to the playground in the park near by on the 4 inches of snow there are outside now and I can even get some exercise while I'm doing it.  I'm out of here.  I'm physcally tired, I'm gonna go to bed.  If anyone wants to join, you're more then welcome to.

Why so angry?
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2010, 12:25:01 AM »
I just reported you, too, so we are even.  I

If anyone agrees with me for asking a legitimate question and having the kind of impact it had on a lot of the guys here,  report this moron who supports the haters and biters on here.[/glow] 


Hey PECKER..
So, I reported you because of your hostile comments and name calling.  Neither of which I did to you.  And then you continue with the name calling - 
Read the forum guidelines - name calling isn't allowed...
No one has attacked you here - if anything many have tried to give you some good suggestions and show some understanding of your situation -- as I am even trying my best to do for you PECKER.
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Labs:
Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2010, 12:26:34 AM »
UM, whatever, I said what I said and I meant it.  And I will say it again if you need me to.  I asked a legitimate question.  Go ahead and report me, if this is how hateful it gets here, you would be doing me a favor...maybe I will start going to church instead...

This is a public forum, you asked a question and members are commenting.
   That's what happens.  It has happened to all of us who have participated on this forum; we start a thread and it goes in a direction we didn't expect. You were given some good advice/ suggestions.

   Your threatening language is disturbing.

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2010, 12:38:08 AM »
I just farted...per request and dedicated to you two.  There is my answer - in the fragrance of the deepest part of me and from the bottom of my stomach... 
« Last Edit: December 04, 2010, 12:45:59 AM by Pecker »
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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2010, 12:40:10 AM »
Pecker,

You are out of control and completely out of line. You asked a question and you got some answers. Miss P made one wise crack and the other folks went right along with it, but she didn't say a word to or about you.

This is a very strong warning to cool down and leave the site alone for the night. If you ever go off like that again you will be banned and the ban may become permanent.

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Re: TESTOSTERONE SHOTS!!!
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2010, 12:51:26 AM »
I'll tell you what.  How about I leave it this site forever!  Ban me, Pleeeeeeeze...this site sucks anyway....if I'm out of here forever is because I damn want to, not because you are telling me to, I don't take shit from you or anyone else...I URGE YOU TO DELETE MY PROFILE NOW!
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