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Author Topic: the sh!t hits the fan...  (Read 1993 times)

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Offline wtfimpoz

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the sh!t hits the fan...
« on: November 22, 2010, 12:44:15 AM »
I and a large group of others were rounded up and placed on corrective action for dubious reasons which makes me think I'm going to be fired "for cause" because my company needs to get rid of a few people and doesn't want to go through layoffs.  My income is too high to qualify for ADAP, and most of the drug company plans I know of require you to be on an ADAP waitlist to qualify.  WTF should I do if I lose my job?
« Last Edit: November 22, 2010, 01:25:39 AM by wtfimpoz »
09/01/2009-neg
mid april, 2010, "flu like illness".
06/01/2010-weakly reactive ELISA, indeterminant WB
06/06/2010-reactive ELISA, confirmed positive.

DATE       CD4     %     VL
07/15/10  423     33    88k
08/28/10  489     19    189k
09/06/10-Started ATRIPLA
09/15/10  420     38    1400
11/21/10  517     25    51

Offline next2u

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Re: the sh!t hits the fan...
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 01:27:52 AM »
dunno...but i hope someone else posts the answer. i know i think about this shit more often these days as well. i also know in my county we can get emergency meds from the county. if you don't get the answer you need reach out to your local ASO tomorrow and speak with a case manager or specialist. don't let that dwell on your spirits too long...having an answer will give you some peace of mind my friend. i hope it doesnt come to this. best of luck to you.

truly,
d
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Re: the sh!t hits the fan...
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 07:23:18 AM »
If you get fired you will no longer have an income, so how could it be "too high"?
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Offline wtfimpoz

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Re: the sh!t hits the fan...
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2010, 12:38:13 PM »
MyTNT understanding is that they go by a formula that looks at the previous 12 months of pay.  Is this incorrect?
09/01/2009-neg
mid april, 2010, "flu like illness".
06/01/2010-weakly reactive ELISA, indeterminant WB
06/06/2010-reactive ELISA, confirmed positive.

DATE       CD4     %     VL
07/15/10  423     33    88k
08/28/10  489     19    189k
09/06/10-Started ATRIPLA
09/15/10  420     38    1400
11/21/10  517     25    51

Offline Ann

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Re: the sh!t hits the fan...
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2010, 12:49:42 PM »
I honestly don't know how they calculate it where you live. Where I live, most services of this sort are based on current income (or lack of it) and savings (over a certain amount). It wouldn't surprise me though if they do look at the past twelve months instead of where you're currently at now. Although that hardly seems fair.

Good luck. Hopefully you're worrying for no good reason. But you know the saying, "just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me". Keep your chin up.             
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: the sh!t hits the fan...
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2010, 12:55:52 PM »
They look at current income in Louisiana.  If you are not working you have to sign an affidavit saying you are making no money and if you are being supported.  They didn't ask for a W2 they asked for a current paystub.

Offline AaronbytheC

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Re: the sh!t hits the fan...
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2010, 01:02:57 PM »
It's not free, but "IF" you were to loose your job you have the right to continue your medical coverage via COBRA. 
I don't know all the ins and outs, but from what our HR people told me COBRA is good for at least a year after you loose your job, it is at your expense but the same coverage you have now.  (Meaning you stay on the companies same policy but you have to pay the full amount for your coverage)  In my case my employer pays 1/2 of my monthly costs...  If I were to loose my job I'd have to pay the whole $352 per month. 
They also said that due to the economic issues there have been some extensions and government help with this as well...  Maybe try a Google search for COBRA to learn more...
If you still didn't have a job after your COBRA is up you'll definitely qualify for ADAP by then...  Not that that's a good thing!   ;D
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09/2010 CD4 541 / 17% / VL 10,500
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Re: the sh!t hits the fan...
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2010, 03:35:03 PM »
MyTNT understanding is that they go by a formula that looks at the previous 12 months of pay.  Is this incorrect?

ADAP will look at your current income.  No job, no income (assuming you don't have other sources) so you should qualify for ADAP if you lose your job.

You might also qualify for Medicaid if your assets aren't too great and if your state approves Medicaid applications based on HIV infection alone.
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Offline danitheches

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Re: the sh!t hits the fan...
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2010, 01:28:14 PM »
wtfimpoz:  it has been my experience that you can negotiate with the drug companies and if you explain to them situation they will extend all the help possible.  If you don't get on the waitlist then as long as you are still within their income requirements, then being denied by ADAP due to income will be a reason for you to seek help through prescription assistance.  Your post mentioned you're on ATRIPLA and their patient assistance program is one of the most lenient programs out there, especially if you lost a job.  If you don't have income and you are relying on family support that is all you have to put on the application.  The application has a tear off voucher for a 30 day supply that you can fill at any pharmacy.  Then they will send you card in the mail which allows you to get meds for a year. 

Hope this helps just a little bit.

dani

 


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