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Author Topic: CD4 count vs CD4 percentage; being undectable- I need help  (Read 1868 times)

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Offline findingaway

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CD4 count vs CD4 percentage; being undectable- I need help
« on: November 19, 2010, 02:44:32 PM »
I need help understanding some of this some much still. So I found out I was undectable in August after being diagnosed in April. In august my tcell count was at 645.  I just had my three month check up and got my lab results in today. I remain undectable still, however my tcell count is at 440?? But my doctor informed me that my CD4 percentage was actually higher than what it previously was. (it is now at 36.7%) he said that that number was good and I am still in a good normal range. But what I don't get is why my count dropped like that in 3 months. He told me that there is going to be fluctuation in counts and CD4 % is a better tool to look at but I just don't get it.
Any insight please, I need to understand.

Offline tash08

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Re: CD4 count vs CD4 percentage; being undectable- I need help
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2010, 08:13:42 PM »
I have also experienced a significant drop in my CD4 count. It was 681 in April and it dropped to 450 in July, I was very disappointed as I haven't missed any doses, eat healthy and take my supplements. My doc seems to think that I'm doing good as my percentage went up from 32% to 40% perhaps my body is trying to restore my cells I have no clue I'm also hoping that it will go up soon above 500 at least.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2010, 09:53:33 PM by tash08 »
01/04/06-HIV-
03/09/06-HIV+
05/07-Atripla
04/01/10 CD4-681, VL-UD
07/10/10 CD4-450, VL-UD
10/10/10 CD4-473, VL-UD
01/21/11 cd4-522, VL-UD
05/02/11 CD4-638, VL-UD <20 copies Hell yeah!
08/3/12 CD4-806, VL-UD

Granny60

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Re: CD4 count vs CD4 percentage; being undectable- I need help
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2010, 10:51:55 PM »
You have CD4 cells ( white blood cells that fight infections) and CD8 cells that are helper cells. The percent is the ratio of CD4's  to CD8's.  The percent is considered a better indicator of health than CD4 because the CD4 tends to fluctuate more. As with CD4, higher percent is better. With the test that we are used to, a percent less than 30 is considered low. I have seen single digits.  Hope this helps.

Offline tednlou2

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Re: CD4 count vs CD4 percentage; being undectable- I need help
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2010, 11:47:33 PM »
You have CD4 cells ( white blood cells that fight infections) and CD8 cells that are helper cells. The percent is the ratio of CD4's  to CD8's.  The percent is considered a better indicator of health than CD4 because the CD4 tends to fluctuate more. As with CD4, higher percent is better. With the test that we are used to, a percent less than 30 is considered low. I have seen single digits.  Hope this helps.

I would be interested to hear thoughts from the forum whether someone with a decent CD4, but percentage in the low 20's, like myself, should start considering meds. 

Granny60

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Re: CD4 count vs CD4 percentage; being undectable- I need help
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2010, 11:58:58 PM »
I would be interested to hear thoughts from the forum whether someone with a decent CD4, but percentage in the low 20's, like myself, should start considering meds. 
CD4 347 now up from <20;  percent last week 21. W/o meds I wouldn't be here but you have to remember I am starting at the bottom and going UP^ :)

 


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