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Offline mark1911

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HIV exposure risk
« on: November 16, 2010, 05:06:29 PM »
Hi I would just like want to ask if I had a risk with HIV.

What happens I had sexual contact with a female sex worker.I sucked her nipples while I fingered her vagina for 5 min I also felt some wetness then wipe my hand with a towel.Then she gave me unprotected oral sex while I was lying down on my back.Maybe some of her saliva got in my penis because I was not standing.I eventually had an ejaculation inside her mouth for about 5 min.Then just wipe of my penis with the same towel I have used to wipe my fingers.Then she put condom on me have vaginal sex for 5 min also she was on top and Im still on my back.After that I go to the bath room and just pull the condom from the tip and was my body with soap and water.Please tell me my chances thank you

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2010, 05:31:19 PM »
Mark, the most important thing in your story is that you used a condom for vaginal intercourse. That's exactly what you are supposed to do. Condoms provide very effective protection.

Nothing else that you have described in anyway put you at risk for HIV. So you are worrying needlessly. There's no need for testing nor for further concern about HIV in relation to this incident.

We do suggest in general that anyone who is sexually active ought to at least annually have a full STD panel done as other STDs are much easier to acquire than HIV.
Andy Velez

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2010, 05:38:48 PM »
Hi andy thanks for your reply.I did have a rapid test after just a week from the incident.I know its to early and Im am from the Philippines I donot know how reliable is the rapid test here it just a free it came from UN-aids program.

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2010, 05:41:22 PM »
The Rapid test is an approved one. Testing is unnecessary for you but I am not sure you are going to believe that. Testing over this incident is strictly for your peace of mind and a negative is a slam dunk.
Andy Velez

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 06:58:19 PM »
I have high anxiety since it happened.Here in the Philippines even doctors who are involve in HIV testing believe that HIV is transmitted thru oral sex and sometimes even on condom protected sex.The first doctor that I have spoken with also told me that there had been cases of transmission that she had known here in the Philippines.That is why I am very alarmed.

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 07:08:11 PM »
I am very sorry you are giving incorrect information from people who should know/be trained better. In the history of the pandemic there has never been a confirmed case of someone getting HIV through insertive fellatio (which is what you described). As far as passing through condoms, that particular myth was put out by the Catholic Church.

It is a lie. HIV cannot pass through condoms.

I am very sorry you are alarmed, and very irritated that healthcare professionals would put anti-sex religious judgment before science. But that seems to be exactly what has happened. Ignorance is never pretty. Ignorance wearing the lab coat of authority is downright maddening.

I urge you to read as much of this site as you can. We rely on first-tiered peer-reviewed science, along with thirty-odd years of epidemiology for our assertions. If you correctly wear a condom for penetrative vaginal and anal sex, you will not HIV. It really is that simple.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Offline mark1911

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 07:28:23 PM »
Thanks for the info jk.

Its so hard on my part because I was fed with this information for more than a month by who I know are professionals in the field of HIV here in the Philippines.They even told me that my risk is high.

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 08:37:41 PM »
Mark

I have been a member of these forums for 7 years, if I was in your position and worried about the situation you found yourself in I know who I would be putting my trust in ...and it isn't your Doctor.

Trust the advise you are given here..that is my advise to you.

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Offline mark1911

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 08:50:13 PM »
Thanks jan

I had lots of sleepless nights since this began.Just cant imagine why do Government Doctors here in the Philippines advice people that way. :'(

Offline mark1911

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2010, 02:30:58 AM »
Im having a hard time in with all negative information was on my mind.I do have a family I have abstain with my wife since this all happen.I have high anxiety over this matter.

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2010, 03:02:44 AM »
I am sorry you are having anxiety. I do not honestly know what further use we can be to you in this matter.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2010, 04:50:47 AM »
Mark,

The idea that HIV is able to pass through intact condoms is a myth perpetrated by the Catholic Church. As the Philippines is, by and large, a devoutly Catholic nation it's not surprising that this view is widely held, even by doctors.

The reality is, however, that HIV science is not a specialty of the Church. Despite what the bishops and priests might say, the irrefutable evidence is that latex condoms, when properly used, are extremely effective in preventing HIV transmission.

As Jonathan notes, if you are unable to accept this there is little more we can do to help you. Your anxiety around these issues is not something we can fix.

MtD

Offline mark1911

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2010, 06:12:05 AM »
to:All

I was also wondering about the fingering I think at that time I have a small skin peel near the nail I think its called cuticle I do not know how to refer with skin peel.And protected sex I was not fully erected the condom may have not fitted totally unto my penis.Please do need some answers.

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2010, 06:44:40 AM »
Fingering is not a risk of HIV transmission.

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2010, 07:37:05 AM »
Mark,

Hiv can only infect a very few, very specific types of cells. These cells are not found on the surface of the skin nor are they found in shallow cuts, scrapes or peeled skin. This is why fingering is not a risk for hiv infection.

You used a condom for intercourse and as long as the head of your penis was covered, you were not at risk and it doesn't matter how hard or soft your penis was.

If we thought you'd put yourself at risk with anything you mentioned, we would tell you. We're in the business of educating people on the actual risks of hiv infection and the importance of testing when there has been an actual risk. You have NOT had a risk.

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.


Please consider yourself warned!

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Offline mark1911

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2010, 07:59:26 AM »
Thanks Ann.I just want to tell you everything that happened.And please dont put me on time out.

 The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Please understand that face to face help here in the Philippines just makes anxiety worst than ever.Thank you for understanding.

Offline mark1911

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2010, 03:49:41 AM »
Hi Andy & Ann

I got  another 2 rapid test.5th week and 7th weeks.Both results where negative.Rapid test here in the Philippines are not FDA approve but World health org. approved.They are 3rd gen rapid test for HIV 1& 2.The brand is Bioline SD from korea.

I was still waiting for my 13th week for a peace of mind but just today on my 9th week I did had sex with my wife.I did use condoms because Im still afraid that I could infect her.My questions is will you guys be certain that I dont have to wait for my 13th week to be able to say that Im really safe.

Thank you again.
Mark

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2010, 03:53:02 AM »
You had no initial risk. You either intellectually cannot grasp this due to some pathogen or externally controlling/deviating force, or you have managed to circumvent your logic, in case nothing said here, grounded in science, will reach you.

I cannot think of a third option.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2010, 04:05:06 AM »
Mark,

You did not have a risk, therefore you are conclusively hiv negative and you do not need further testing.

If you keep posting about this no risk incident, you WILL be given that time out you've been warned about.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2010, 08:52:20 AM »
Thanks for hearing that Ann.

Offline mark1911

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2011, 07:44:50 AM »
Dear All,

I just need a an answer is it safe to use pipette pump when extracting blood via finger prick.It was the one that was used with me in collecting my blood when I had the test.I have read that pipette pump are only used in transfering specimens not in extracting blood.I cannot see any answer that in the internet maybe because no one use it in collecting blood from a finger prick.My concern is that what if someones blood may have been suck by the pump and it was used on me.The only thing that being replaced with the pump is the tip where the blood is being stored.I hope some one could answer.Thank you

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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2011, 07:51:36 AM »
Mark,

We're not going to go down this road with you. Health care providers are not in the business of infecting patients with used equipment.

Your time out warning still stands.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2011, 07:58:25 AM »
Hi Ann,

Just to clarify my side Im just a bit curious about the pipette pump well it has a replaceble tip.But what I have read pipette pump are use on separating serum.I just want to know if it is safe when using it extracting blood from a finger.

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2011, 08:36:14 AM »
■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Offline mark1911

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Re: HIV exposure risk
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2011, 08:51:07 AM »
Im very sorry for these questions it seems Ive found an answer it was not a pipette it called micro pipette the one which I said with the replaceble tip.I found out it also used in extracting blood by finger prick.Thanks again

 


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