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Author Topic: The Rachel Maddow Jon Stewart Interview/Debate  (Read 617 times)

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Online tednlou2

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The Rachel Maddow Jon Stewart Interview/Debate
« on: November 12, 2010, 03:20:45 AM »
I found this very interesting and thought many of you would, too.  She interviewed him for the full hour.  They discuss the state of the media, whether FOX and MSNBC are the same, and much more.  It would be interesting to hear your thoughts.  The interview is broken up into different segments. 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#40140781

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Re: The Rachel Maddow Jon Stewart Interview/Debate
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2010, 01:28:51 AM »
I guess no one watched it?
I seen it. Im a die hard fan of Maddow, seldom watch Stewart.
Usually what I see of Stewart are clips that other news or talk shows play from his show.
But Maddow is such a "gentleman" so to speak. She interviews people showing respect to them.
On the interview/debate, I felt Stewart was trying to sell his type of show vs Maddow-ish news shows.
He was trying to justify how he works, while finding issues with how msnbc talk shows work.

All I can say is I will continue to be a die hard Maddow/Olbermann/Matthews fan.
I still don't find any desire to tune or watch Stewart.

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Re: The Rachel Maddow Jon Stewart Interview/Debate
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2010, 02:09:53 AM »
All I can say is I will continue to be a die hard Maddow/Olbermann/Matthews fan.
me too!
I PMed Teddy and told him that I thought JS was wrong. He "may" think he's doing comedy and not a news show; but he is doing political comedy and that is news. Matter of fact he's able to put a better slant on it even because he can be sarcasm and mean about everything he disagrees with, while other news reporters should be and usually try to be a little fair.
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Re: The Rachel Maddow Jon Stewart Interview/Debate
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2010, 06:53:46 AM »
I was disappointed in J S 's arguments here. It made me think his show is hilarious and on point because its a group effort, not his own.  Lately he is trying to say that its all subjective - peoples views on politics and history are just viewpoints.  FDR was wrong to imprison americans, Bush was wrong to fake legalise torture, Obama is wrong - but we have to wait to see what his manipulations of the constitution are.  Drones seem iffy.  The crimes are not subjective.  The seriousness of them in comparison - that we can talk about.  Its not subjective to say, Bush may be a war criminal, but Saddam Hussein was a criminal, so how could Bush be one? Just because they were both criminals does not mean that Bush's crimes were as heinous as Husseins.  JS is a sophist.

What JS and Maddow do are apples and oranges I dont see how anyone can confuse them. And what Fox news does is tangerines.  Look, EVERY media production has a bias - an ideology. This is one of the first tenets of media studies for the past 40 years!  So J S is on thin ice trying to say he does balanced satire.  Anderson Cooper has been repeating in every show that his show doesn't take sides - he does it better than Maddow (who does take sides) but his show is a hell of a lot less intelligent and amusing to watch than Maddow's, or Stewart's.  

Stewart's meandering justifications, pullbacks, pontifications were really an embarrassment.  Though I agree completely with one of his basic views - the LEFT VS RIGHT trope/theme, isn't the end of the possible reporting, nor should it be the basic challenge in government.  Thats pretty good point, and not easy to actualise, so he gets cred. Plus his own show is funny and smart and - sorry - more often about the Right's hypocrisy than the Left's because the Right is nuts these years.  Satire of Hillary Clinton is not the same as satire of Christine ODonnell cause the latter is a nut case who was taken seriously by some people.

Maddow wins for the classiest act in "biased" news and political commentary, and I think it would have been more interesting to see her debate and discuss with a big 3 news anchor like Brian Williams.

(Now, would you rather sleep with Maddow, Stewart, Cooper or Williams?  All so cute!)
« Last Edit: November 13, 2010, 11:25:16 AM by mecch »
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