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Author Topic: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals  (Read 2116 times)

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Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2010, 11:54:20 AM »
Thanks for posting this helpful information.

Offline WillyWump

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2010, 06:01:54 PM »
Excellent information V. Thanks for posting.

Apprarently I need to do more coke and lay off the methadone.

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2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%
8/9/12, CD4 not taken, UD.
2/13/12, CD4- 904, UD 42%

Current Meds: Prezista/Epzicom/ Norvir
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Offline HowYouDoin

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2010, 06:10:38 PM »
stay awway from recreational drugs period.

Offline Joe K

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2010, 06:46:00 PM »
What a great document. Not only does it present possible drug reactions, but it is written with reality in mind. On page 10 they provide specific suggestions on drug use, without any judgment. For example, ecstasy, they suggest you start with 1/4 to 1/2 tablet and drink plenty of water. Or heroin, start with normal dose and increase only if you experience less of a hit and less buzz. Safe injecting. Do not mix with other
recreational drugs.

This reminds me of my first HIV doctor, Norman Markowitz, in the 80s. He was incredibly realistic and would make suggestions for partying, depending upon the drugs you were taking. He understood that we are all different and part of his job, as a doctor, was to treat the whole patient, honestly and respectfully. It is by following his example that I hold many beliefs on how to humanely treat pozzies.
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Offline jkinatl2

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2010, 07:06:25 PM »
What a great document. Not only does it present possible drug reactions, but it is written with reality in mind. On page 10 they provide specific suggestions on drug use, without any judgment. For example, ecstasy, they suggest you start with 1/4 to 1/2 tablet and drink plenty of water. Or heroin, start with normal dose and increase only if you experience less of a hit and less buzz. Safe injecting. Do not mix with other
recreational drugs.

This reminds me of my first HIV doctor, Norman Markowitz, in the 80s. He was incredibly realistic and would make suggestions for partying, depending upon the drugs you were taking. He understood that we are all different and part of his job, as a doctor, was to treat the whole patient, honestly and respectfully. It is by following his example that I hold many beliefs on how to humanely treat pozzies.

Thank you Joe, for your assessment. It is EXACTLY what I thought. And far more helpful than "stay off recreational drugs." This chart would be a great addition to this site, hint hint.

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Offline skeebo1969

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2010, 07:55:28 PM »



   Weed ain't no drug, it's just a plant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vvtj0aALAM
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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2010, 10:37:42 AM »
i totally plan on relocating to a state with open minded medicinal laws, prescription weed, now theres i cause i can get behind
3/27/14 vl >300k cd4=9... plenty of room to improve

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Offline aferstilo

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2010, 01:07:31 PM »
woot woot high up my dose of THC !!
1/13/09 CD4 1129/34.2% - VL 22,000
5/15/09 CD4 1300/33%   -  VL 35,000
11/17/09 CD4 659/ 23%  - VL 150,000
1/18/09  - STarted Atripla
2/18/10 Cd4 774- 30% - Vl 1,600
5/6/10   CD4 866 40% - VL Undetectable

Offline Fondoo

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2010, 01:52:37 AM »
the problem with drugs is that they are chock full of vitamin stupid  ;D




Offline midland moe

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2010, 02:02:40 AM »
""Narcotics have been systematically scapegoated and demonized. The idea that anyone can use drugs and escape a horrible fate is an anathema to these idiots. I predict that in the near future right-wingers will use drug hysteria as a pretext to set up an international police apparatus."

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 william s burroughs
Diagnosed + 4/15/08               VL 570,000  cd4  85
started ATRIPLA 7/20/08         VL 301,757  cd4  45
8/22/08                                 VL       171  cd4  185
11/25/08    undetectable                           cd4  371

03/30/09    undetectable                           cd4  464
07/07/09    undetectable                           cd4  419
12/04/09    undetectable                           cd4  534
        cd4 % 20
04/09/10 undetectable                                cd4  667
         cd4%  22.1
07/16/10   undetectable                              cd4  573
         cd4%  23.8
03/25/11   undetectable                              cd4  655
         cd4%  29.4

Offline bryan21

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2010, 02:22:46 AM »
Oh thnk God! I thought my drugg days were over!
Hello being 21 agian!  ;D
lol

Offline Hellraiser

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2010, 04:51:40 AM »
Note to self: Protease Inhibitors increase levels of ecstasy.

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2010, 09:10:23 AM »
Note to self: Protease Inhibitors increase levels of ecstasy.

Personal experience tells me that this is mostly complete bullshit.
"Iíve slept with enough men to know that Iím not gay"

Offline fearless

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2010, 10:21:45 PM »
Personal experience tells me that this is mostly complete bullshit.

Counldn't agree more, Philly.
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Offline tommy246

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2010, 03:04:43 PM »
I have taken coke in the past but as it increases viral replication i would not touch it again.
jan 06 neg
dec 08 pos cd4 505 ,16%, 1,500vl
april 09 cd4 635 ,16%,60,000
july 09 ,cd4 545,17%,80,000
aug 09,hosptal 18days pneumonia cd190,225,000,15%
1 week later cd4 415 20%
nov 09 cd4 591 ,vl 59,000,14%,started atripla
dec 09  cd4 787, vl 266, 16%
march 2010  cd4 720 vl non detectable -20  20%
june 2010  cd4  680, 21%, ND

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Recreational Drugs and HIV Antiretrovirals
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2010, 03:12:29 PM »
I have taken coke in the past

It shows.

MtD

 


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