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Offline krp1234

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AM I A LONG TERM S??
« on: September 18, 2010, 11:05:49 AM »
Dear ...SORRY FOR MY MISTAKE...How are you ?? Its the first time that i am posting so pl forgive me if am wrong  
I HAVE 2 questions pl ...be straight forward -
i had kissed one of my boy friend...for 1 minute ..toungue to tounge kiss in 5 months back.After that did tests in the last month and are normal.
I still am not able to satisfy my mind ..Am in India and i did PROVIRAL DNA PCR and ANTIBODY BOTH.
NOW MY MIND SAYS THAT WHAT IF YOU ARE A LONG TERM NP AND THE VIRAL LOAD IS TOO LOW AND HENCE NOT DETECTED BY THE PCR TEST...PL PL TELL ME WITH EXAMPLES ..1) IS KISSING OF WHAT I DID ANY RISK 2 ) HOW MUCH IS THE SERROCONVERSION TIME FOR LONG TERM SURVIVORS   WHO ARE ABLE TO KEEP VL LOW WITHOUD MEDS ON THIER OWN ..?

PL PL REPLY I BEG ..

« Last Edit: September 18, 2010, 12:04:35 PM by krp1234 »

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Re: AM I A LONG TERM S??
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2010, 11:18:18 AM »
krp,

In order to be a long term survivor, you have to have hiv. You do NOT have hiv.

You didn't have a risk in the first place.

Kissing is NOT a risk for hiv infection. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

You do NOT have hiv!

Ann
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Re: AM I A LONG TERM S??
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2010, 12:09:42 PM »
Thanks for the so prompt repl ..many thanks..do u know any REAL LIFE examples where kissing has happened and it was safe ?? pl do not mind that ..as i am asking it to ..know the things...also pl pl would beg you to satisfy my query on LTS.,,pl pl ...reply ..I know i am being BAD ..pl forgive me ..

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Re: AM I A LONG TERM S??
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2010, 12:14:26 PM »
krp,

I know plenty of real life examples where kissing an hiv positive person was safe. I'm hiv positive and I've kissed many hiv negative people without infecting them. It's totally safe.

An LTS is someone who was infected with hiv before the better hiv medications came out in 1996. It has nothing to do with you. You are not an LTS.

You didn't have a risk for hiv. You don't have hiv.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: AM I A LONG TERM S??
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2010, 12:18:03 PM »
krp,

If you don't stop posting in the LTS forum and other places where you are not permitted to post, I will ban you from these forums.

So far I've had to delete four posts from you that were posted in the wrong place. I already told you to stop doing this.

PLEASE CONSIDER YOURSELF WARNED FOR THE LAST TIME!!!

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: AM I A LONG TERM S??
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2010, 12:24:12 PM »
I AM SORRY ..VERY SORRY...BUT PL PL DO NOT GET SO ANGRY ..PL ...I RESPECT YOUR VIEWS A LOT .HOW WILL I KNOW AS TO HOW LONG DO LTS TAKE TO SEROCONVERT ?? WIT EXAMPLES ..PL PL ..SATSIFY THIS ...DO NOT HATE ME PL..

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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2010, 12:29:43 PM »
krp,

Please quit using ALL CAPS when you write. It's difficult to read.

LTS have already seroconverted. LTS already HAVE hiv.

I don't hate you and I'm not angry (yet), but you are rather annoying.

You do NOT have hiv. You are NOT an LTS. You do NOT have hiv!

Why would you have hiv when kissing is NOT a risk for hiv and not one person has ever been infected this way?

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: AM I A LONG TERM S??
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2010, 12:31:24 PM »
Stop talking about LTS. You aren't one and you haven't reported anything which suggests you were at risk for HIV.

Are you listening to anything which is being said to you or are you just rattling on in a nervous frenzy? It seems the latter.

Also, stop writing in all capital letters. It's considered to be rude on the web as if you are shouting when you are speaking. You won't get any more or faster attention by using capital letters.

Andy Velez

Offline krp1234

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Re: AM I A LONG TERM S??
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2010, 12:46:30 PM »
Thanks...this is the last question on LTS ..i promise..
but just to satisfy myself ..would it be possible to say how long do Long term S take to serroconvert ? I am not bad ..just trying to rule out the possibility.because is is said that LTS ..are able to keep the virus in check ....withot med..in which case they might have serroconverted also too late ...pl pl clarify this in any case...and once agai sorry for all my mistakes ..unknowingly done..i swear i respect one and all herewith full heart..

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Re: AM I A LONG TERM S??
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2010, 01:22:21 PM »
kpr,

You're talking about LTNP (long term non-progressors), not LTS.

LTNP do not take any longer to seroconvert than any one else.

The vast majority of people - including LTNP - who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks, with the average time to seroconversion being only 22 days. Where there has been a real risk (you have not had a risk) a six week negative must be confirmed at the three month point, but is highly unlikely to change.

People who are LTNP and have a very low or undetectable viral load will still test positive on an antibody test and will do so within the first six weeks of infection and will continue to test antibody positive for the rest of their life.

You are not an LTNP. You are not an LTS.

What you ARE is hiv NEGATIVE. Got it? Good, because I'm not going to tell you again.

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to and like I asked you to earlier, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.


Please consider yourself warned for the absolute LAST time!

Ann
« Last Edit: September 18, 2010, 01:24:09 PM by Ann »
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Can i expect a reply pl
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2010, 12:50:10 PM »
Hello ...Was going through the forums questions and found a case of JANE0007 ..who claims to have infected after deep kissing or an ex partner ... ( WHO CLAIMED TO BE -) ..but nothing is mentioned after that as since there are no further posts..i am worried because i too was exposed to an unknown frd of mine and had some kissing with saliva exchange....and still unable to take it our of my head ...Can soem one pl pl help ..Best regards ..pl .

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Re: Can i expect a reply pl
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2010, 12:54:22 PM »
Please return to your original thread. Your questions will be addressed there (again).

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=34438.msg427903#msg427903

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Re: AM I A LONG TERM S??
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2010, 01:02:16 PM »
hello .. i read a case of JANE007 on this who talks of being infected by "hectic kisses" ..ofr from an ex fiancee ..but there are no conclusions as there are no further posts ..i am worried ..is really kissing safe ..pl pl reply ..Kindly bear with me i beg..do not misunderstand ..take care ..regards

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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2010, 01:09:53 PM »
No one has ever been infected through deep kissing. In addition to NOT containing infectious HIv particles, saliva contains over a dozen elements that de-activate the virus.

And yes, sometimes people claim they have been infected through improbable (and impossible) circumstances. Their claims do not stand up to any inquiry. Also, sometimes we get people who claim to be HIV positive who are, in fact, not. This is the internet, so you can expect almost anything from time to time.

Kissing is NOT a risk for HIV, no matter what the circumstances.


"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Re: AM I A LONG TERM S??
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2010, 01:11:44 PM »
No, we are not going to kindly bear with your comments and questions. Read our lesson on transmission if you haven't already done so.

If you return again with more nonsense you are going to get a Time Out really quickly.
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Re: AM I A LONG TERM S??
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2010, 02:56:54 PM »
I've merged your threads. Please follow our rule and keep all of your entries in this same thread.
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Re: AM I A LONG TERM S??
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2010, 11:25:46 AM »
Perhaps i am too irritatting ... i understand ..BUT Pl ...i beg on to the xperts on giving me a conclusive result.. I assure that would not disturb anyone again pl ..i am afraid of any testing pl reply.pl

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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2010, 11:41:47 AM »
krp,

You have already tested conclusively hiv negative for a NO RISK event. We have repeatedly told you that you do not have hiv. How could you when you never had a risk in the first place.

Remember that time out warning I gave you in September? It still stands.

Consider yourself warned for the absolute last time!!!

You do NOT have hiv.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2010, 09:09:20 AM »
krp,

This is in response to the Moderator Report you sent concerning the posts of Jane007. As you have been previously told, sometimes people do not always tell the truth concerning how they were infected. As Jane was only active on these forums for three days, I can only conclude that she wasn't being honest and left when she realised we weren't going to play her game.

None of that changes the fact that you do not have hiv. You have tested conclusively hiv negative.

I'm giving you that time out you were warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently warned.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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