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Offline wtfimpoz

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atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« on: October 01, 2010, 10:43:18 PM »
my stupid condo turned on the heat early, so it was cranked up all the way when I got home.  it was at least 100 degrees in my condo when I got home, and probably more where I store my atripla as the drawer the atripla was in abuts the heater.  is it damaged by the heat?  I've been calling pharmacists.  One says not to worry, the other says its probably fried.  The FDA is closed
09/01/2009-neg
mid april, 2010, "flu like illness".
06/01/2010-weakly reactive ELISA, indeterminant WB
06/06/2010-reactive ELISA, confirmed positive.

DATE       CD4     %     VL
07/15/10  423     33    88k
08/28/10  489     19    189k
09/06/10-Started ATRIPLA
09/15/10  420     38    1400
11/21/10  517     25    51

Offline phildinftlaudy

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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2010, 10:55:43 PM »
I don't think that it would bother it --- how many hours was it in the heat?
September 13, 2008 - diagnosed +
Labs:
Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2010, 11:07:16 PM »
Other than those gooey Norvir capsules, and the formulation of Kaletra I took, I am unaware of HIV meds that are intolerant of that level of heat. And that is only because they would melt into a horrible goop.

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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2010, 11:17:30 PM »
I don't mean to take away from your concern about the heat and meds, but you don't control your own temp?  I would hate that and I've never heard of a place where you don't control your own heat or A/C.

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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2010, 11:21:46 PM »
I don't mean to take away from your concern about the heat and meds, but you don't control your own temp?  I would hate that and I've never heard of a place where you don't control your own heat or A/C.

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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2010, 11:23:24 PM »
You wouldn't last five minutes in the Pen.

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When I was in Miami-Dade County Jail I asked if they could turn up the heat -- it was so cold in there - but  they didn't --- customer service there really sucks.
September 13, 2008 - diagnosed +
Labs:
Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2010, 12:33:57 AM »
Thanks for the responses everyone.

LOL, yes its freaking horrible.  Last week the ac was on, and the elderly board of directors decided we needed to switch to heat, so I came home tonight and BOOM, it was honestly about 100 degrees.  The condo works from a blower system, so the same system which was cooling it was suddently heating it. They leave hte heat on 8 months out of the year, and don't turn the ac on until July 1, long after it should be on.  Its as terrible as it sounds.  Never woulda bought hte place if i'd known this happened.  And yeah, it was probably at least 100 degrees in the drawer where the atripla was, probably hotter.  It really makes me angry.
09/01/2009-neg
mid april, 2010, "flu like illness".
06/01/2010-weakly reactive ELISA, indeterminant WB
06/06/2010-reactive ELISA, confirmed positive.

DATE       CD4     %     VL
07/15/10  423     33    88k
08/28/10  489     19    189k
09/06/10-Started ATRIPLA
09/15/10  420     38    1400
11/21/10  517     25    51

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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2010, 12:45:22 AM »
Old people = cold people.

Have you considered/are you able to put in a window unit? I keep my apartment at a balmy 64 degrees F, and I consider that a compromise.

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Offline wtfimpoz

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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2010, 01:23:31 AM »
They ban window units, but we put in an internal ac during the hottest summer months anyways.
09/01/2009-neg
mid april, 2010, "flu like illness".
06/01/2010-weakly reactive ELISA, indeterminant WB
06/06/2010-reactive ELISA, confirmed positive.

DATE       CD4     %     VL
07/15/10  423     33    88k
08/28/10  489     19    189k
09/06/10-Started ATRIPLA
09/15/10  420     38    1400
11/21/10  517     25    51

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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2010, 02:10:00 AM »
Wow. Man, I am sorry. That sounds like an awful situation. But it's good that you put in an internal AC. I run mine most of the year, here in Atlanta.
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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2010, 02:43:21 AM »
I'm sure the Atripla that sits in the back of those shit-brown UPS trucks easily reaches well over 100° in the summer.  I don't think it should be kept at high temps for long periods of time, but a few hours should be fine. 
Black Friday 03-03-2006
03-23-06 CD4 359 @27.4% VL 75,938
06-01-06 CD4 462 @24.3% VL > 100,000
08-15-06 CD4 388 @22.8% VL >  "
10-21-06 CD4 285 @21.9% VL >  "
  Atripla started 12-01-2006
01-08-07 CD4 429 @26.8% VL 1872!
05-08-07 CD4 478 @28.1% VL 740
08-03-07 CD4 509 @31.8% VL 370
11-06-07 CD4 570 @30.0% VL 140
02-21-08 CD4 648 @32.4% VL 600
05-19-08 CD4 695 @33.1% VL < 48 undetectable!
08-21-08 CD4 725 @34.5%
11-11-08 CD4 672 @39.5%
02-11-09 CD4 773 @36.8%
05-11-09 CD4 615 @36.2%
08-19-09 CD4 770 @38.5%
11-19-09 CD4 944 @33.7%
02-17-10 CD4 678 @39.9%  
06-03-10 CD4 768 @34.9%
09-21-10 CD4 685 @40.3%
01-10-11 CD4 908 @36.3%
05-23-11 CD4 846 @36.8% VL 80
02-13-12 CD4 911 @41.4% VL<20
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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2010, 06:41:21 AM »
Well to answer the OPs question
1) Keep taking your pills until you get an answer.
2) Ask your doctor what his/her advice is.  And the FDA - good call!
3) If someone finally says no, you should replace the pills, - is replacing the pills possible? Insured or out of pocket?
4) Post the answer here for all of us. Thanks.
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Offline wtfimpoz

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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2010, 03:00:16 PM »
Thanks guys, it was probably "well over 100 degrees" in the atripla bottle, as the little foil thing was bulging outward.  BTW is it sealed in the pharmacy or the factory btw?

EDIT:  I'd say it was in there about ten hours exposed to those temperatures.
09/01/2009-neg
mid april, 2010, "flu like illness".
06/01/2010-weakly reactive ELISA, indeterminant WB
06/06/2010-reactive ELISA, confirmed positive.

DATE       CD4     %     VL
07/15/10  423     33    88k
08/28/10  489     19    189k
09/06/10-Started ATRIPLA
09/15/10  420     38    1400
11/21/10  517     25    51

Offline phildinftlaudy

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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2010, 04:53:44 PM »
Mine comes in a regular white pill bottle with big letters that say Atripla - and a breakdown of the three drugs that are in it by amount (for the 30-day supply); the 90 day supply I get comes in a brown clear bottle.  Sometimes the pharmacy sends me one big bottle w/ 90 other times I get 3 individual white bottles.
September 13, 2008 - diagnosed +
Labs:
Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2010, 06:04:29 PM »
In my experience since most HIV meds are not generic, they come straight from the pharmaceutical company fully sealed -- you can see how the pharmacy applies a label over the "branded" label of the actual medication.  Non-HIV medications I take if they're generic, have more variable dosing and get put in those more amber colored pill bottles with white caps and just have a pharmacy label on them, and there's no seal under the cap.
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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2010, 08:29:56 PM »
I used to get my ribavirin in blister strips. The foil was really tough to break through even with nails and  by the time I'd finish filling in my weekly pill tray my fingers would be sore.

Tried to use a butter knife instead one time and kept injuring myself or the liquid-filled caps. Not such a good idea and I gave up after wrecked two pills and three or four fingers. And the palm of my left hand. Like I wasn't in enough pain already. ::)
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Re: atripla and heat---kinda emergency
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2010, 02:19:16 PM »
Sustiva is the only medication I receive in what appears to be the original container (white square).  The others come in the pharmacy bottles  (amber round).

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