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Offline Inchlingblue

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Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« on: September 07, 2010, 05:59:07 PM »
This has probably been discussed ad infinitum in the "Am I Infected?" thread but I'm curious what the consensus is on HIV transmission if cum goes directly in the eye.

 
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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2010, 06:06:02 PM »
I have been unable to find a single documented case.

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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2010, 06:13:58 PM »
Did you infect another victim Inchling? :)
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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 06:14:45 PM »
Like Jonathan, I've not been able to find a documented case of HIV transmission in this way.

Moreover the eye is a particularly hostile place for a delicate virus like HIV. I believe that Lysozyme (which is found in tears) rapidly deactivates HIV and other pathogens.

MtD

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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2010, 06:15:21 PM »


   Wasn't that a Nat King Cole song?
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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 06:15:35 PM »
How about if I shoot my own cum in my eye -- will I get a superinfection?
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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2010, 06:32:37 PM »
Inch,

Here is Dr. Gallant's answer:

http://www.hopkins-hivguide.org/q_a/patient/hiv_transmission_and_prevention/cum_in_my_eye....html?contentInstanceId=382492&siteId=7151

Unlikely.

v

Dr Gallant, like Dr Bob, equivocates so much that I am sure he would claim an airborne infection "unlikely."

Granted, science pretty well precludes the existence of a hundred percent statistic. I certainly wish he and others chose language that laypersons can accurately interpret.


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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2010, 06:44:25 PM »

   Wasn't that a Nat King Cole song?

Oh yeah!

Jerome Kern from the Musical "Roberta"

"They asked me how I knew, my true love was true...."

Hope you haven't been having any lovely flames die Inch.

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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2010, 07:01:37 PM »
I'm being totally silly and all you mean girls (you know who you are) will give me a hard time. Bring it on, bitches@!

I already have HIV (duh!) so it's not like I'm worried but I was the one who got blasted with poz cum in my left eye.

I've only recently started having sex again after about 3 years. Kind of wading in the sex pool, nothing heavy duty. I was with this cute guy and we were blowing each other and jacking off and suddenly he cums and it goes directly into my left eye. When he gets up to go to the bathroom I notice he has a big red biohazard tattoo on his back. He also had a big beautiful natural (as in not juiced) man-ass, no lipo butt for this boy. Had I seen the ass before I would have raped the lad, alas.

Of course I'm not worried about getting HIV but I suppose the only unlikely issue is if he has a viral load with an integrase mutation that would render my trusty Isentress powerless to his mutant strain. All highly unlikely, I know.

I can tell you this much, if I were neg and this happened I'd be running to get me some PEP.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2010, 07:40:57 PM by Inchlingblue »

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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2010, 07:06:39 PM »
no lipo butt for this boy

Nice lipo bigotry there, Inch -- way to treat your fellow HIVers.

I'll also assume since he had a biohazard tattoo which surprised you that there was no pre-sex disclosure.  tut tut ole girl...

And yes, you're being silly worrying about an Isentress mutation.  What are you on your next to last treatment option now?
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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2010, 07:09:02 PM »
Quote
How about if I shoot my own cum in my eye -- will I get a superinfection?

Round of applause maybe

As for cum in the eye and HIV mutations, be serious, have an orange juice, it's a greater risk

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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2010, 07:14:01 PM »
Nice lipo bigotry there, Inch -- way to treat your fellow HIVers.

I'll also assume since he had a biohazard tattoo which surprised you that there was no pre-sex disclosure.  tut tut ole girl...

And yes, you're being silly worrying about an Isentress mutation.  What are you on your next to last treatment option now?

We were being totally "safe" just a little cocksucking, no swallowing even, so there was no disclosure talk.  

Don't take the "lipo butt" comment so personally, sheesh. I've lost a little ass fat myself. It happens, just not to this boy and not yet. I was being descriptive. SUE ME. BITE ME.

Even if I am only on my first combo, I would not want to lose Isentress or other integrase inhibitors and the fact is that it has a low barrier to resistance so even one mutation renders it useless.

Anyway, I know I was being silly but I had to "vent" on here because sex is all very new to me again (like a virgin, touched for the very first time!)

I'm navigating being poz and having a normal safe sex life so there will be bumps in the road until I figure it out.

Miss P, do always disclose? I guess if you are bareback fucking that would be appropriate but for some  cocksucking lite? Srsly?
« Last Edit: September 07, 2010, 07:39:56 PM by Inchlingblue »

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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2010, 07:26:23 PM »



    Sometimes skeebo has difficulty understanding when we's be playin and when we's be serious.  I feel like this is about to be an after school monkey bar meeting or something.
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2010, 07:32:02 PM »
We were being totally "safe" just a little cocksucking, no swallowing even, so there was no disclosure talk. 

Don't take the "lipo butt" comment so personally, sheesh. I've lost a little ass fat myself. It happens, just not to this boy and not yet. I was being descriptive. SUE ME. BITE ME.

Ok just who the fuck are you?

You're not the InchlongBeige we've come to know. You're like all feisty and sassy and almost funny. How did you get control of IB's account?

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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2010, 07:37:47 PM »
Ok just who the fuck are you?

You're not the InchlongBeige we've come to know. You're like all feisty and sassy and almost funny. How did you get control of IB's account?

MtD

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Who's IB?

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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2010, 07:39:26 PM »




I told you about my inner bitch, bitch.

Who's IB?

Must be the cum in the eye...  IB be you!
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2010, 07:39:54 PM »

I can tell you this much, if I were neg and this happened I'd be running to get me some PrEP.

In the instances where this exact scenario has presented itself in "AM I INFECTED," we have been unanimous in NOT recommending PEP.

It would be an awesome waste of resources and money for a scenario that has never been documented to transmit the virus.

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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2010, 07:40:04 PM »
I told you about my inner bitch, bitch.

Who's IB?

Irritable Bowel?

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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2010, 07:40:17 PM »

Don't take the "lipo butt" comment so personally, sheesh. I've lost a little ass fat myself. It happens, just not to this boy and not yet. I was being descriptive. SUE ME. BITE ME.

You're losing you ass due to age -- you're in your late 40's.  I lost mine when I was 33, due to medications.  Don't attempt to identify with my suffering while denigrating it at the same time, that's just plain tacky.
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2010, 07:42:30 PM »
You're losing you ass due to age -- you're in your late 40's.  I lost mine when I was 33, due to medications.  Don't attempt to identify with my suffering while denigrating it at the same time, that's just plain tacky.

Do you have any IDEA how many people you insult here on a regular basis@!? Get OUT of my face. Do not even try to lay a guilt trip on me. Buh Bye.

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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2010, 07:43:21 PM »
IB = Inchlingblue

I don't think there would risk of infection -
and just as a helpful tip -  Visine takes the red out - of "cum eye" (I keep a supply here at the house) - although, swallowing usually helps to avoid nasty cum eye burn.

I wonder if a put on a red curly wig and short dress and got cum shot in both eyes if I could be a candidate for the Broadway revival of Little OralOrphan Annie?  Just thinking out loud.....
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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2010, 07:43:50 PM »
The word WANKER comes to mind here.
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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2010, 07:44:16 PM »
I despise the song Love is in the Air, you should too.

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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2010, 07:44:21 PM »
Do you have any IDEA how many people you insult here on a regular basis@!? Get OUT of my face. Do not even try to lay a guilt trip on me. Buh Bye.

Now this will simply not do. You wanna play with the big kids, you gotta expect to cop a few in the raisins, kiddo.

So have a cup of cement and harden up or toddle back off to IJTP and play with the grade schoolers.

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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2010, 07:44:53 PM »
Do you have any IDEA how many people you insult here on a regular basis@!? Get OUT of my face. Do not even try to lay a guilt trip on me. Buh Bye.

Oh, so that's what this is about now?  So it's bad when I do it but now it's OK for you to do it?  Got it, Miss Hypocrisy.  Now who is taking things so personally here?
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« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2010, 07:52:30 PM »
Listen, David. I'm truly sorry if I offended you. But I think you are being a tad sensitive.

Honestly, it's hard  on this forum to be descriptive or direct in any way (unless it's you or Matty who seem to be the only two who have a license to let loose with the verbiage).

 
 
« Last Edit: September 07, 2010, 07:54:33 PM by Inchlingblue »

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« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2010, 07:56:55 PM »
Listen, David. I'm truly sorry if I offended you. But I think you are being a tad sensitive.

Honestly, it's hard  on this forum to be descriptive or direct in any way (unless it's you or Matty who seem to be the only two who have a license to let loose with the verbiage).

I'll go back to being InclingBeige lest you get offended again. Mea Culpa.

 

Well so much for your inner bitch. I must say I'm disappointed. I relished the prospect of vanquishing you in honourable battle.

You do a nice line in passive-aggressive petulance though. Mayhap you can work on that angle? :)

MtD

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« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2010, 08:00:13 PM »
jk,

By the way, there was a documented case at the international aids conference in 1993:

http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/MeetingAbstracts/ma?f=102205886.html

v

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« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2010, 08:01:21 PM »
Well so much for your inner bitch. I must say I'm disappointed. I relished the prospect of vanquishing you in honourable battle.

You do a nice line in passive-aggressive petulance though. Mayhap you can work on that angle? :)

MtD

LOL, I had edited out that last passive-aggressive line but not quick enough for your grubby nimble hand!

To the victor the spoils.

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« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2010, 08:02:48 PM »
LOL, I had edited out that last passive-aggressive line but not quick enough for your grubby nimble hand!

To the victor the spoils.

Yairs, I'm devilish quick. :)

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« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2010, 08:03:59 PM »
jk,

By the way, there was a documented case at the international aids conference in 1993:

http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/MeetingAbstracts/ma?f=102205886.html

v


Feh. A documented case based on patient report. Notoriously unreliable, patient report.

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« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2010, 08:05:55 PM »
Yairs, I'm devilish quick. :)

MtD

The line should be read the way Anne Baxter would in All About Eve, natch.

"I'll go back to being InchlingBeige lest you get offended again. Mea Culpa."

But the rest was heartfelt.

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« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2010, 08:08:32 PM »
How about if I had a glass eye and removed it prior to having oral sex and then got cum shot into the socket where my glass eye usually was - would that put me at risk?  Just thinking out loud again in between rehearsing my "sun will come out tomorrow" routine for my Annie audition - should it happen.
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« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2010, 08:11:44 PM »
What if I shoot someone in the eye, should I disclose?

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« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2010, 09:02:23 PM »
Feh. A documented case based on patient report. Notoriously unreliable, patient report.

MtD

Thanks for beating me to the punch on that one. I view patient-report with a skeptical eye... and a one-time documentation based on it, that is not repeatable in subsequent, more reliable studies?

I tend to dismiss. Were we to use patient self-report, then I submit that we reference the people in "Just Infected" who claim to have gotten HIV despite never having an unsafe moment, always using condoms, and/or not having sex.

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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2010, 09:16:59 PM »
How about if I had a glass eye and removed it prior to having oral sex and then got cum shot into the socket where my glass eye usually was - would that put me at risk?  Just thinking out loud again in between rehearsing my "sun will come out tomorrow" routine for my Annie audition - should it happen.

I actually once dated a guy with a glass eye.  Then again, I once dated a guy with only one testicle.  But then I've had so many tricks in my life I should expect such things, though in fairness both of them were more than one nighters, but less than 3-monthers.
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« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2010, 09:51:50 PM »

 I was the one who got blasted with cum in my left eye.

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that's awesome hot.

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« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2010, 10:18:15 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2010, 11:37:27 PM »
I actually once dated a guy with a glass eye.  Then again, I once dated a guy with only one testicle.  But then I've had so many tricks in my life I should expect such things, though in fairness both of them were more than one nighters, but less than 3-monthers.

I can do a Penelope-style (Kristin Wiig) one upmanship here:

1) I once tricked with a guy who had no ass hole (I didn't realize it until we were just about to fuck).

2) Another guy had a mechanism inside his cock. He had to press some sort of button and I could literally hear some cranks creaking as it got hard.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2010, 11:45:57 PM by Inchlingblue »

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« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2010, 12:01:45 AM »
I can't help but remember the line uttered in the wonderful gay indie film "Trick." 

"Do you know what happens when you get cum in your eye?   It BURNS!!!"

The line is uttered by a drag queen named Miss Coco Peru...the movie is great fun and mostly quite sweet.  It clearly fits this topic!

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Offline northernguy

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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2010, 02:47:55 AM »
I can't help but remember the line uttered in the wonderful gay indie film "Trick." 

"Do you know what happens when you get cum in your eye?   It BURNS!!!"

The line is uttered by a drag queen named Miss Coco Peru...the movie is great fun and mostly quite sweet.  It clearly fits this topic!

Gary

Umm, I can only assume you didn't click on my link two posts above...
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Offline Jeffreyj

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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2010, 01:20:25 PM »
Wow. And I thought Whale Wars was exciting. This thread is better than that!
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Offline Lou-ah-vull

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Re: Cum Gets In Your Eyes
« Reply #43 on: September 08, 2010, 05:49:08 PM »
Sorry Northern...didn't mean to steal thunder (your link was a better rendition!)  I did it from memory once I saw the headline for the post.  Love that movie though!
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01/12:  920 (51.1%), UD
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