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Offline eric48

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Flu shot and initiation
« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2010, 05:49:54 PM »
Hi,

This post reminded me to ask my doctor.

As other HIVers in this country, I will receive a free voucher for the flu shot (which, here, will include H1N1)

Because I have some critical VL test down the road (virologic response being kind of slow), doc advised NOT to get that shot until after the VL/CD4 has been done

I am posting this as a reminder to those who have just initiated meds and are due for VL/CD4 in the near future

Cheers! Eric

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #51 on: September 14, 2010, 11:51:36 PM »
Wow, interesting! I did not know that a flu shot could muck up other tests! Thanks for the info.

I will probably get mine at my next HIV appointment on the 26th, at the same time I get bloodwork done. But yeah, I keep thinking about it every time I walk into the drug store next door and see that it's free under my insurance.

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Offline Assurbanipal

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Re: Flu shot and initiation
« Reply #52 on: September 15, 2010, 08:02:20 AM »
Hi,

This post reminded me to ask my doctor.

As other HIVers in this country, I will receive a free voucher for the flu shot (which, here, will include H1N1)

Because I have some critical VL test down the road (virologic response being kind of slow), doc advised NOT to get that shot until after the VL/CD4 has been done

I am posting this as a reminder to those who have just initiated meds and are due for VL/CD4 in the near future

Cheers! Eric


The flu shot in the US also includes H1N!

And your doctor suggested you postpone protecting yourself from flu in order not to screw up a lab test?  Seriously?

Wouldn't it make more sense to postpone the lab work?  Or to have the blood draw and the flu shot in succession on the same day?  This doesn't make sense.
5/06 VL 1M+, CD4 22, 5% , pneumonia, thrush -- O2 support 2 months, 6/06 +Kaletra/Truvada
9/06 VL 3959 CD4 297 13.5% 12/06 VL <400 CD4 350 15.2% +Pravachol
2007 VL<400, 70, 50 CD4 408-729 16.0% -19.7%
2008 VL UD CD4 468 - 538 16.7% - 24.6% Osteoporosis 11/08 doubled Pravachol, +Calcium/D
02/09 VL 100 CD4 616 23.7% 03/09 VL 130 5/09 VL 100 CD4 540 28.4% +Actonel (osteoporosis) 7/09 VL 130
8/09  new regimen Isentress/Epzicom 9/09 VL UD CD4 621 32.7% 11/09 VL UD CD4 607 26.4% swap Isentress for Prezista/Norvir 12/09 (liver and muscle issues) VL 50
2010 VL UD CD4 573-680 26.1% - 30.9% 12/10 VL 20
2011 VL UD-20 CD4 568-673 24.7%-30.6%
2012 VL UD swap Prezista/Norvir for Reyataz drop statin CD4 768-828 26.7%-30.7%

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #53 on: September 15, 2010, 10:28:59 AM »
They should just give the flu shot after taking the lab work/vials for viral load.  This is silly.
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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #54 on: September 15, 2010, 11:29:39 AM »
They should just give the flu shot after taking the lab work/vials for viral load.  This is silly.
Precisely
5/06 VL 1M+, CD4 22, 5% , pneumonia, thrush -- O2 support 2 months, 6/06 +Kaletra/Truvada
9/06 VL 3959 CD4 297 13.5% 12/06 VL <400 CD4 350 15.2% +Pravachol
2007 VL<400, 70, 50 CD4 408-729 16.0% -19.7%
2008 VL UD CD4 468 - 538 16.7% - 24.6% Osteoporosis 11/08 doubled Pravachol, +Calcium/D
02/09 VL 100 CD4 616 23.7% 03/09 VL 130 5/09 VL 100 CD4 540 28.4% +Actonel (osteoporosis) 7/09 VL 130
8/09  new regimen Isentress/Epzicom 9/09 VL UD CD4 621 32.7% 11/09 VL UD CD4 607 26.4% swap Isentress for Prezista/Norvir 12/09 (liver and muscle issues) VL 50
2010 VL UD CD4 573-680 26.1% - 30.9% 12/10 VL 20
2011 VL UD-20 CD4 568-673 24.7%-30.6%
2012 VL UD swap Prezista/Norvir for Reyataz drop statin CD4 768-828 26.7%-30.7%

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #55 on: September 15, 2010, 05:55:51 PM »
They should just give the flu shot after taking the lab work/vials for viral load.  This is silly.

This is what happens at my clinic on Hamthrax Vaccination Day. You have your bloods done and then you get stuck with the No More Flu.

Would have thought it was obvious.

MtD

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #56 on: September 15, 2010, 06:01:20 PM »
They should just give the flu shot after taking the lab work/vials for viral load.  This is silly.

And this happened to me on at least two occasions.  The blood was taken, and moments later, the flu shot was given to me at the doctors office. The same with the pneumonia booster.

There have also been times , where I have received the flu shot from work ( which is usually where I get it),  and had  blood tests done within  3 weeks. I would have to check my records for actual dates.  I have never had any ill effect having it done this way, BUT,  I was already undetectable at this point, prior to the flu shot.

Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of DEC 9th, 2013,  t-cells are at 437 Viral load  <40 .

 Current % is at 16% (L)

  
 62 years young.

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #57 on: September 15, 2010, 06:08:48 PM »


Also wanted to add, that I have had the flu shot given to me , when my t-cells were less than 150.  Although, I don't know how effective the shot was.  But, knock on wood, I haven't had the flu either, especially in those critical times back in 2003 through 2004.


Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of DEC 9th, 2013,  t-cells are at 437 Viral load  <40 .

 Current % is at 16% (L)

  
 62 years young.

Offline eric48

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Re: Flu shot and initiation
« Reply #58 on: September 15, 2010, 07:21:00 PM »

And your doctor suggested you postpone protecting yourself from flu in order not to screw up a lab test?  Seriously?


Yes... We are monitoring VL a bit more closely than usual as resistance is suspected. Resistance, is, in my humble opinion a much more serious problem than the flu

My note is meant for people who are at the early stage of meds, where monitoring is a tiny bit more important.

Yes, I does make sense to do the flu shot AFTER the blood work. It happens that, here, HIVers receive a voucher mailed by our socialized medical system, simply go to any pharmacists, get they vaccine for free, go to any nurse, get the shot for free, without passing through the HIV clinic supervision.

These are 2 separate routes.

Which is why I go a bit suspicious, checked with my doctor and shared his recommendation (Blood work FIRST, then Flu shot) with those readers who might be in the same situation as I (not yet UD, etc.). I guess for most people (UDs) it does not matter.

Cheers

Eric
« Last Edit: September 15, 2010, 07:32:31 PM by eric48 »

Offline tednlou2

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2010, 03:01:09 AM »
Has anyone noticed they feel kinda bad (fatigue, etc) after getting vaccinations?  After I got the H1N1 and the heps vaccines, I felt kinda bad each time for about a week.  I just felt tired and like I was about to get sick.  I also remember both times getting ringing in the ears or those strange pressure changes in the ear where it seems like you hearing decreases for a few minutes.  It may have just been all in my head, though.  The mind is very powerful. 

I was planning to get my flu shot at my next appt in October.  However, we are suppose to take a trip the following week, so I'm thinking about just getting it now so I don't have to worry about any perceived or real side-effects.  Don't get me wrong, I know they have a very good safety profile and I'm totally for vaccinations. 

Offline onemoretime

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2010, 11:56:52 AM »
i got mine today
08/04 diag 490 cd4 vl 50,000
10/25/05 436 50,513 hvb 1.1 billion
12/13/05 truvada sustiva
02/16/06 742 und, hpb 63,000
04/27/06 740 und hpb 60,000
01/05/07 458 und hvb und
03/08   470 undetectable still on atripla. Non smoking (chantex)
08/08 cd4 550 undetectable hiv, Hep B UND. Atripla
06/09  cd4 444, vl undetectable testo 130
09/09/09 CD4 687 46% UND  Testo 213 started androgel
10/12/09 cd4 682 46% und testo 597
01/12/10 cd4 842 48% und testo 434
041010 cd4 693  53% testo 492
100410 cd4 568 48% testo 523
012711 cd4 523 hcv 56 testo 596
083011 cd4 280 Hcv/HIV und
042912 cd4 158 hcv /hiv und, was on hep c for 11 months. do have ssdi filed and getting LTD
061912 cd4 151, bactrum, hep c and hiv und
071712 cd4 287 52% HIV HCV und
112012 cd4 520

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #61 on: September 19, 2010, 01:06:14 PM »
Has anyone noticed they feel kinda bad (fatigue, etc) after getting vaccinations? 


 No problems here.  No more fatigue now than prior to the flu shot I got on Friday. Vaccinations of any sort, never bothered me. Tenderness around the injection site, depends on who gives them, and how tense a person is, when receiving it.

A far as ringing in the ears, I've had that for 7 years. I have tinnitus, that started shortly after starting meds.



Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of DEC 9th, 2013,  t-cells are at 437 Viral load  <40 .

 Current % is at 16% (L)

  
 62 years young.

Offline Assurbanipal

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2010, 06:33:03 PM »
Has anyone noticed they feel kinda bad (fatigue, etc) after getting vaccinations?  After I got the H1N1 and the heps vaccines, I felt kinda bad each time for about a week.  I just felt tired and like I was about to get sick.  I also remember both times getting ringing in the ears or those strange pressure changes in the ear where it seems like you hearing decreases for a few minutes.  It may have just been all in my head, though.  The mind is very powerful. 

I was planning to get my flu shot at my next appt in October.  However, we are suppose to take a trip the following week, so I'm thinking about just getting it now so I don't have to worry about any perceived or real side-effects.  Don't get me wrong, I know they have a very good safety profile and I'm totally for vaccinations. 

I think some people do tend to have minor reactions to the flu shot.  If you've noticed this in yourself it makes perfect sense to try to time the shot around your schedule.  So...go for it!
5/06 VL 1M+, CD4 22, 5% , pneumonia, thrush -- O2 support 2 months, 6/06 +Kaletra/Truvada
9/06 VL 3959 CD4 297 13.5% 12/06 VL <400 CD4 350 15.2% +Pravachol
2007 VL<400, 70, 50 CD4 408-729 16.0% -19.7%
2008 VL UD CD4 468 - 538 16.7% - 24.6% Osteoporosis 11/08 doubled Pravachol, +Calcium/D
02/09 VL 100 CD4 616 23.7% 03/09 VL 130 5/09 VL 100 CD4 540 28.4% +Actonel (osteoporosis) 7/09 VL 130
8/09  new regimen Isentress/Epzicom 9/09 VL UD CD4 621 32.7% 11/09 VL UD CD4 607 26.4% swap Isentress for Prezista/Norvir 12/09 (liver and muscle issues) VL 50
2010 VL UD CD4 573-680 26.1% - 30.9% 12/10 VL 20
2011 VL UD-20 CD4 568-673 24.7%-30.6%
2012 VL UD swap Prezista/Norvir for Reyataz drop statin CD4 768-828 26.7%-30.7%

Offline WillyWump

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #63 on: September 19, 2010, 07:41:44 PM »
Got mine friday. No fatigue. But my arm still hurts, feels like someone hit me real hard. But it's so hard for me to relax my muscles when I have a syringe coming at me, as Ray said it's much better if you relax.

-Will
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Last Labs-
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%
8/9/12, CD4 not taken, UD.
2/13/12, CD4- 904, UD 42%

Current Meds: Prezista/Epzicom/ Norvir
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Offline tednlou2

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #64 on: September 22, 2010, 11:35:51 PM »
Study says flu shot linked to reduced heart attack risk:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39273187/ns/health-heart_health

Offline WillyWump

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #65 on: September 23, 2010, 09:51:41 AM »
Study says flu shot linked to reduced heart attack risk:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39273187/ns/health-heart_health

Very interesting.

-Will
POZ since '08

Last Labs-
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%
8/9/12, CD4 not taken, UD.
2/13/12, CD4- 904, UD 42%

Current Meds: Prezista/Epzicom/ Norvir
.

Offline tednlou2

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2010, 01:53:38 AM »
An online doc recently gave out this link about vaccinations.  It is from 1998.  Is this info outdated now?  I was surprised there was no ringing endorsement for the flu vaccine.  They said many of us don't create a good response (if I read it correctly).  The report did say it is probably still a good idea, because flu can lead to other respiratory illnesses and HIVers are at higher risk for those. 

On that note, I was really surprised by the figure about HIVers and bacterial pneumonia.  I knew we had a higher rate, but I didn't know it was that high.  I was also surprised by the statement that there was no need, really, to have titers checked after getting the Heps.  It was also saying that the Hep A vaccine may not be warranted unless you have sex with men or travel to certain areas.  It also said there isn't much safety info on the Hep A vaccine.       

Did I read all this correctly and is this info still valid 12 years after it was written?

http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/InSite?page=kb-03-01-08

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #67 on: October 16, 2010, 03:26:27 AM »
Recieved mine on the 13th.

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #68 on: October 16, 2010, 09:34:52 AM »
Recieved mine on the 13th.

Me too Roddles -- it's like we're twins.
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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #69 on: October 16, 2010, 10:35:54 AM »
OH my god ... I got mine on the 13th . its a trifecta of coincidence . 

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #70 on: October 16, 2010, 10:52:11 AM »
OH my god ... I got mine on the 13th . its a trifecta of coincidence . 

I bet the person giving you yours wasn't a tattoo'd Vietnamese lady.
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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #71 on: October 16, 2010, 10:55:41 AM »
I bet the person giving you yours wasn't a tattoo'd Vietnamese lady.

Nope ... she had flaming red hair and a Sponge Bob lab coat .

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #72 on: October 16, 2010, 11:10:32 AM »
Got mine on the 5th.

I never get labs done at the doctor's office. They are done a few weeks ahead of the doctor visit so we can discuss the results.

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #73 on: October 16, 2010, 12:12:33 PM »



    I got my flu shot last weekend at Walmart.  I almost had to clock some 87 year old lady for my seat but I got it!!  She even tried to pull out the "I have a walker" sympathy trick.  The nerve of the one yellow toothed woman.  Sheeez.
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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #74 on: October 16, 2010, 03:35:37 PM »


    I got my flu shot last weekend at Walmart.  I almost had to clock some 87 year old lady for my seat but I got it!!  She even tried to pull out the "I have a walker" sympathy trick.  The nerve of the one yellow toothed woman.  Sheeez.


The nerve of that woman ... and living to be 87 is just greedy .

 


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