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Author Topic: Sex with CSW in Patong, now I am worried  (Read 10459 times)

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Re: Sex with CSW in Patong, now I am worried
« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2013, 07:38:13 AM »
This is all just more of your drama and nothing which appears to have been a risk for HIV. From what you are reporting you did use a condom if you had intercourse. That's good.

So right now you are once again loaded with guilt. That's different than having genuinely had a risk for HIV.

You're convincing me that you have an alcohol problem. How about checking out AA to get some help so you stop putting yourself in situations that could be risky and end up with you feeling like crap about yourself.

Once again I don't see any need for testing. But this mixing you do of excessive drinking and casual sex is a bad combination and is not leading to anything good. Get yourself some help. We can't provide that in this setting.
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Re: Sex with CSW in Patong, now I am worried
« Reply #51 on: June 07, 2013, 08:28:44 AM »
Andy

Thanks for your reply. Yes I am loaded with guilt. I do have an issue with alcohol. I am attending AA and I had a relapse. I had been sober for almost a year up to that point. I should have called my sponsor and didn't. I am settling down a bit now regarding the events of that night and will get the full panel done in early September. I did wear a condom and it did not break so I am ok with that now. I will get tested for all the other sti's though. And I will get to a meeting asap to start all over again.The first drink as usual did the damage.

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Re: Sex with CSW in Patong, now I am worried
« Reply #52 on: June 07, 2013, 08:54:05 AM »
OK, Stevie. It's good to hear that you are in program. As you know it's about progress and not perfection. So having had a slip does not mean you have lost all the good you have gotten from being in program. Get back on and keep going. It sounds like you're taking the right steps to take care of yourself.

Onward and good luck with your test results.

Cheers.
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Re: Sex with CSW in Patong, now I am worried
« Reply #53 on: June 09, 2013, 07:48:33 PM »
Hi there

I have now arrived to the states after a long flight and noticed that the red patch/spots near the tip of my penis are persistent. It is making me think I may have caught genital herpes from the lady in question. Now this has me thinking, if  there is any way I could have caught this from the frottage. And of course is making me think am I totally sure I did not black out and something unprotected did happen (I am quite sure, but then again how could I have caught genital herpes so easily). I did some research and it seems possible that redness or spots from genital herpes could turn up 36-48hrs after exposure. They haven't gotten worse or anything. In fact they have stayed the same and I guess I am all a bit confused now. Do you think that this has increased HIV risk in any way? I guess I could have obtained it through the unprotected oral and this would have been possible HSV-1?

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Re: Sex with CSW in Patong, now I am worried
« Reply #54 on: June 09, 2013, 08:03:12 PM »
Steve , you didn't have a risk for HIV and we cannot diagnose anything , much less over the internet .

If you feel you have been exposed to herpes you are going to have to see a doctor . The only way I know to answer your question is to say that you cant increase the risk in a no risk situation . Seriously , go see your doc and get your penis checked out .

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Re: Sex with CSW in Patong, now I am worried
« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2013, 08:03:06 AM »
steve,

Of course you could have very easily gotten herpes from frottage. Syphilis as well. Both of these sexually transmitted infections only require skin-to-skin contact - UNLIKE HIV.

You need to be aware that herpes, particularly a primary herpes outbreak (ie your first outbreak), hurts like hell. It would be very sore and possibly itchy too. Syphilis, on the other hand, doesn't hurt. If you didn't see the chancre, you'd never know it was there.

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus. Most of the other STIs are VERY easy to transmit in comparison to hiv. Hiv should be so lucky. We're lucky it's not.

Get off the internet, take your red dick to a doctor and find out what is actually going on. Whatever it is, it ain't hiv.

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Re: Sex with CSW in Patong, now I am worried
« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2013, 11:35:14 AM »
Hi Ann

I am seeing the Doc here today. It doesn't hurt or itch one bit. But thats not to say anything is not wrong. I will stop being my own physician. Thanks for the replies as always. You guys really have amazing patience and great humour too. I don't know how you maintain that amazing balanced approach to all of us worried nuts out here. By the way, I am still sober. Getting there again.

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Re: Sex with CSW in Patong, now I am worried
« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2013, 03:57:38 PM »
That's good about your sobriety. One day at a time.
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Re: Sex with CSW in Patong, now I am worried
« Reply #58 on: June 10, 2013, 05:40:08 PM »
Hi

Thanks Andy. I went and got the full panel done today by the doc. However she told me to come back and get tested at 6wks and 6mths for HIV and at 3mths for Syphilis (and the others).

She also thought that while the oral unprotected was low risk, that it was certainly no risk and there was a possibility of contracting syphilis or HIV in this way. I also was made to feel somewhat leprous by her discomfort around me and I just think that she may not have come across cases like mine that often. Anyhow I am opting to go for the advice ventured forth in these forums by you guys. It slightly differs from what she (the doc) seems to think. I trust you folk have a lot more experience. In reality it doesn't matter a toot. I may have a smorgasbord of STI's after my drunk antics, but it certainly helps my levels of anxiety (as I know how I can be) if I trust in your good advice regarding the risks of HIV infection.

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Re: Sex with CSW in Patong, now I am worried
« Reply #59 on: June 10, 2013, 06:07:46 PM »
I am very sorry that your nurse is roughly ten years behind on her HIV testing knowledge. The window period for HIV and syphilis is exactly the same, three months. And it has been so for a decade.

As for the oral, well, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him select the efficacy of a controlled study over the notoriously unreliable patient reports. Or something to that effect.

I certainly hope you get it all sorted out. Hopefully you don't have a smorgasbord of STIs. HIV is most assuredly off the menu at that particular buffet.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Re: Sex with CSW in Patong, now I am worried
« Reply #60 on: June 13, 2013, 04:59:07 PM »
So after 8 days those flat red spots on the head of my penis just cleared up of their own accord. And they were completely painless. They were flat round, 1-2mm in diameter, about 7 or 8 of them close together. I had them swabbed last week and will find out what they were on Monday. I researched it online myself and it looks like Molluscum Contagium. This is common in people with low immune systems. So would it be possible that this could be from the frottage? My lady friend from that night must have had an outbreak. What worries me is that if I got that from the frottafge then I could have gotten a whole host of other nasty things. I won't lie and say that HIV risk is still worrying me...

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Re: Sex with CSW in Patong, now I am worried
« Reply #61 on: June 13, 2013, 05:11:31 PM »
Stevie , if you were suffering from a low immune system your little red bumps would not have gone away all on their own . You would most likely be lying in bed with sores all over your entire body in horrible pain and not interested in a computer at all .



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Re: Sex with CSW in Patong, now I am worried
« Reply #62 on: June 13, 2013, 05:15:22 PM »
Jeff

No no, I agree with you. I was referring to the lady's immune system, but that is speculation. I should not have posted today. Really it was just my own surprise and curiosity that something like that could appear and disappear so quickly. It just tells me that the body is a complete mystery to me...

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« Reply #63 on: June 17, 2013, 07:54:15 PM »
Hi there

So I just went down to get the results of my first full panel.I tested negative for absolutely everything under the sun (including a hep panel).

The tests were conducted 8 days after the frottage and they were DNA type tests for Chlamydia and Gonorrhoea.

The redness around the penis head completely cleared up after 10days with the help of some steroid cream. The swab tests of the redness for herpes and the normal herpes test came up positive for HSV-1 and negative for HSV-2.

Now the doc said to me I only needed to retest for Syphilis in 4-6wks time and again at 13 wks. As she was the one that said I needed to test for HIV at 6mths I am a bit wary of her advice. Does anyone on this site have any information that is contrary to hers in terms of testing windows etc?

I am relieved to have had negative results for every STI however am wary of them as they were conducted so soon after a risk incident.

Any insight at all would be appreciated,

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« Reply #64 on: June 17, 2013, 08:29:52 PM »
The window period for HIV testing is 6 weeks post exposure and again at 3 months to confirm the results .

Testing at 6 months is years out of date .

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« Reply #65 on: June 18, 2013, 05:30:09 AM »
Stephen,

While the doctor was wrong about the hiv testing window period, she was right about the syphilis testing window period. It's the same as hiv - test at six weeks and confirm a negative result at three months.

Neither is likely to change if you test negative at six weeks, but a test at three months is needed to confirm.

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« Reply #66 on: June 18, 2013, 05:57:11 AM »
Stephen,

I've just taken the time to re-read your entire thread - and I suggest you do the same. Study it - because we keep giving you the same information over and over and over and you keep coming back with the same questions over and over and over again. It's high time you knocked it off.

Aside from the one low-risk condom break you had three years ago, nothing you've brought to us since then has been a risk for hiv infection.

Along with taking your sobriety one day at a time and attending AA meetings, I suggest that you also get yourself into therapy before this hiv obsession/paranoia escalates any further.

You've probably spent a small fortune on this already, between all those doctor visits and subscriptions here. Subscriptions taken out over a NO RISK situation, as we have explained to you time and time again.

You need to understand that taking out a subscription does NOT exempt you from our forum rules.

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.


Please consider yourself warned!

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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