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Offline Jeff G

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Two faced
« on: August 26, 2010, 02:15:59 PM »
I have been thinking about getting Radiesse facial fillers for some time now , I finally did it yesterday along with having  two moles removed from my face .

I was freaking out last night because it appeared and felt lumpy . This morning its smooth but still swollen , I can tell I'm gonna look like I used to look before Zerit did its number my face .

 
« Last Edit: August 27, 2010, 05:45:26 PM by jg1962 »

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Re: Two faced
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2010, 05:51:42 PM »
 Its been 24 hours since I posted about my second face in 48 years and ain't a damn one of ya has had boo to say about it ... wheres the love .

For the last 24 hours its been Gino this and Gino that and Mech said Whut . Next time I have surgery its gonna be an 11 inch penis ... then I'm just gonna talk to my new penis cuz I wont need any of you then ... There .   

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Re: Two faced
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2010, 08:01:00 PM »
Boo.

There you go.

I'm happy for you that your filler thing has gone well.

But why stop at eleven inches? Honey, go for fifteen. I know I would.

And come on, if that avatar is the real thing, that Gino is one hot puppy and no wonder people are talking. As for Mecch, he brings this shit on himself. But you didn't hear that from me. :)
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Re: Two faced
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2010, 08:04:12 PM »
Boo.


But why stop at eleven inches? Honey, go for fifteen. I know I would.


My luck if I got 15 I would pass out from lack of blood to my brain every time the thing got hard.
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12/10  740    41  <48   
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Re: Two faced
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2010, 08:06:11 PM »
LOL

YAY JG!

Glad to hear the facial filler went well!! I'm sure this will do wonders for your self image since your gonna be back to pre "Zerit face".

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Re: Two faced
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2010, 08:11:21 PM »

My luck if I got 15 I would pass out from lack of blood to my brain every time the thing got hard.

Ah, a comatose Phil. I can deal with that. You may be a bit sore when you come to, so be warned. :)
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Re: Two faced
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2010, 08:22:57 PM »
Ah, a comatose Phil. I can deal with that. You may be a bit sore when you come to, so be warned. :)
Oops - I forgot who I was dealing with   LOL  ;)
Although, it wouldn't be the first time I've woken up with that sore feeling.
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Re: Two faced
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2010, 08:30:47 PM »
I enjoy dear Mech's post , he has always been a sweet guy to me . I prefer to think we pick on the ones we love sometime , my close friends know its true about me .

And Gino ... whats not to love about all that .

Thanks guys ... I had a great deal of anxiety about repairing the old face of mine . The big deal with me was that I had made an effort to get to a place of acceptance regarding how I felt about myself on the inside and out with my HIV journey . I have no idea how to put into words what this means to me but its much more than vanity going on here . I began a positive whole new way of life a few years ago and this I did for myself .

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Re: Two faced
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2010, 08:32:15 PM »
Oops - I forgot who I was dealing with   LOL  ;)
Although, it wouldn't be the first time I've woken up with that sore feeling.

wanna go camping  :o

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Re: Two faced
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2010, 08:36:35 PM »
Congratulations on the treatment!  Has the swelling gone down since then? 
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Jan. '06    725    25      9,097
Nov. '06    671    34     52,202
Apr. '07    553    30      24,270
Sept. '07  685    27       4,849
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Nov. '09     641    27       9,598
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July '10      600     21      31,000
Nov '10      682     24     15,000
June '11     563    23     210,000 (blasto)
July  '11      530    22      39,000
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Re: Two faced
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2010, 08:42:09 PM »
Congratulations on the treatment!  Has the swelling gone down since then? 

Its gone down dramatically today . I had a buddy over for dinner and he could not believe the difference .

I had those deep lines running beside my nose and they are completely gone now . My neighbor talked to me at the mailbox today and told me I looked really rested and asked if I had got a haircut or some thing . 

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Re: Two faced
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2010, 08:44:33 PM »
Its gone down dramatically today . I had a buddy over for dinner and he could not believe the difference .

I had those deep lines running beside my nose and they are completely gone now . My neighbor talked to me at the mailbox today and told me I looked really rested and asked if I had got a haircut or some thing . 

Sounds great!
Summer 2004--became HIV+
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Jan. '06    725    25      9,097
Nov. '06    671    34     52,202
Apr. '07    553    30      24,270
Sept. '07  685    27       4,849
Jan. '08    825    29       4,749
Mar. '08    751    30     16,026
Aug. '08    653    30       3,108
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Re: Two faced
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2010, 08:46:52 PM »
wanna go camping  :o
Sure - I love camping - haven't done it in years - of course last time I went, for some reason, I woke up with that sore feeling in the morning???? hmmmmmm, probably just the way I slept. ;)
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Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
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12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
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Re: Two faced
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2010, 02:37:46 AM »
JG are we going to get to see photos of the new improved face.  Maybe a before and after?  I could totally be a hand model for this.

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Re: Two faced
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2010, 09:58:31 AM »
JG are we going to get to see photos of the new improved face.  Maybe a before and after?  I could totally be a hand model for this.

Maybe .... I may need a hand model for the next surgery , the 11 inch penis .

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Re: Two faced
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2010, 10:01:23 AM »
Maybe .... I may need a hand model for the next surgery , the 11 inch penis .

For an 11 inch penis you'd most likely need a 2 hand model and I could do that as well.

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Re: Two faced
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2010, 04:16:11 PM »
I had my first sculptra inections 10 days ago (~20 injections) -- I can tell a slight difference.  Mine is bad enough that I had to endure three injection sessions spaced six weeks apart, so I won't be done until the second week of November, just in time to look "normal" for Thanksgiving.  A rather long process, but then that's part of it not being a permanent filler, and it's something that stimulates the normal production of your body's own collagen so it has to build itself up.

I have some pictures of my face in a "before" mode, though they're atrocious and I don't like to look at them.  If I look OK when it's all done I may slap up a documentary for everyone, perhaps even with pictures taken before each injection sessions so you can see the gradual process.

But, I ain't promising anything.  It's kind of a bit of work since I live on my own and have to do the pictures on my own.

jg1962 is having Radiesse done as opposed to Sculptra and IIRC that's used when you lipo isn't as severe as mine is and I think it's done in one session -- correct me if I'm wrong jg.
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Re: Two faced
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2010, 07:03:00 PM »
I had my first sculptra inections 10 days ago (~20 injections) -- I can tell a slight difference.  Mine is bad enough that I had to endure three injection sessions spaced six weeks apart, so I won't be done until the second week of November, just in time to look "normal" for Thanksgiving.  A rather long process, but then that's part of it not being a permanent filler, and it's something that stimulates the normal production of your body's own collagen so it has to build itself up.

I have some pictures of my face in a "before" mode, though they're atrocious and I don't like to look at them.  If I look OK when it's all done I may slap up a documentary for everyone, perhaps even with pictures taken before each injection sessions so you can see the gradual process.

But, I ain't promising anything.  It's kind of a bit of work since I live on my own and have to do the pictures on my own.

jg1962 is having Radiesse done as opposed to Sculptra and IIRC that's used when you lipo isn't as severe as mine is and I think it's done in one session -- correct me if I'm wrong jg.


You are correct David .

I was just starting to feel good about having it done until this morning . My mom told me I looked awful and shouldn't have done it , said that I had ruined my face and she wouldn't know me walking down the street . She is wrong I know
It really hurt my feelings . All that crap I wrote about my reasons for doing it were bullshit also . I do have lipo in my face but the real reason I did it was because I'm a 48 year old guy who's been through allot who just wants to feel better about myself .

The only thing my mom accomplished today is help me get over feeling guilty for spending money for vanity's sake .

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Re: Two faced
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2010, 07:27:04 PM »
I'm a little confused -- so you have lipo, and have you had it since being on zerit 10 years ago or does your mother just think you've aged in the past several years?  Did she not see your face sink in when you were in your 30's?
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Re: Two faced
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2010, 07:57:33 PM »
I'm a little confused -- so you have lipo, and have you had it since being on zerit 10 years ago or does your mother just think you've aged in the past several years?  Did she not see your face sink in when you were in your 30's?


I love my mom but she has never been emotionally supportive to anyone . She never compliments and only criticises .

She has seen what its like being POZ for me but will not discuss it . 

When I lived next door to her years ago and was going through chemo therapy she never once called or brought a bite of food over . Its gotten worse between us since my dad died and I was there to help and support him during his illness despite having been divorced from the man 30+ years . She will gladly open a check book for family in trouble but will not let you forget it . Money is her only way of showing love . 

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Re: Two faced
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2010, 07:40:21 AM »

I love my mom but she has never been emotionally supportive to anyone . She never compliments and only criticises .

She has seen what its like being POZ for me but will not discuss it . 

When I lived next door to her years ago and was going through chemo therapy she never once called or brought a bite of food over . Its gotten worse between us since my dad died and I was there to help and support him during his illness despite having been divorced from the man 30+ years . She will gladly open a check book for family in trouble but will not let you forget it . Money is her only way of showing love . 

You poor thing -- I just want to hug you.  That really sucks.  Sounds like Mary Tyler Moore in Ordinary People but even worse.
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Re: Two faced
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2010, 11:36:32 AM »
Honey, don't let your Mother's non-supportiveness get you down.  Makes you wonder if she ever really LOOKED at you before.

Note to everyone else:  the same doctor did jg's that did mine and my partner's....I sure as HELL think we both look a LOT better, and I know that you do too, my friend.   Partner's correction has been more 'noticeable' to others than my own (he also had the deep vertical lines on his face, I did not)  He looks rested, healthy...but strangers and casual acquaintances aren't able to say exactly why, just "you really look good, very rested and healthy".   No one has said "wow you had something injected into your cheeks that filled them out and took away those deep lines where it was so sunk in".   I also think it is due to a GOOD DOCTOR, who knows what she is doing...I did not want my face to scream "LOOK I'M DIFFERENT"....just wanted to feel better about myself, and I do.

Not sure if I am brave enough to post before/after photos (like Felicia said)... we sure have taken plenty.  When you compare those photos, you can SEE the DRASTIC changes.

We need to get together soon honey, and compare cheeks  ;D

Now if we could just get something done about my butt (or lack of), my belly, and the bottoms of my feet... ;)
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« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2010, 11:50:43 AM »
Thanks Alan . I'm looking forward to seeing you guys soon .

As for my mom ... her 7 sisters have already had a little talk with her and she is at least doing a passable job at pretending she gives a damn .


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Re: Two faced
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2010, 11:57:36 AM »
Duuuude,  next time don't tell your mom about the 11 inch ...


 ;D



Seriously though, you are one of the sweetest guys on here; I wish there were something I could say or do.   Parents really can hit us where we are most vulnerable...  You know, she probably does give a damn but can't figure out how to it.
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Re: Two faced
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2010, 12:12:17 PM »
Duuuude,  next time don't tell your mom about the 11 inch ...


 ;D



Seriously though, you are one of the sweetest guys on here; I wish there were something I could say or do.   Parents really can hit us where we are most vulnerable...  You know, she probably does give a damn but can't figure out how to it.

And you are very sweet for saying that , thank you .

My mom is famous and much loved in our family for just being mom . Most times when she pulls stuff like this we all just laugh it off and add it to the list , I am known for being Mr cool nice guy under pressure and she got me this time .
Like most everything else in life this stuff is just funny now and no harm done . 

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Re: Two faced
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2010, 01:38:33 PM »
Hi Guys,    I came across your thread on "Two faced", and wondered if anyone knows a way to find reviews of doctors who do the procedure.    I can find a list of doctors, but since "artistry" seems to be one of the most important factors in choosing a doctor, I am looking for some reviews or first hand recommendations.

My doctor recommended someone, but that doctor no longer accepts Medicare, and I am living on SS.  I understand that it would be well into the thousands of dollars if I paid out of pocket for the procedures.

I am in SF, but that does not make the search any easier.

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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2010, 01:43:23 PM »
Maybe try contacting your local ASO and see if they can recommend someone . Good luck .

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Re: Two faced
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2010, 02:34:55 PM »
jg,
Glad things have gone well with your procedure!

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Re: Two faced
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2010, 02:37:25 PM »
I found mine both from a personal recommendation of a friend and from my HIV doctor, and it just happened to by the same recommended person.  But I know handfuls of other people locally that have gotten Sculptra done -- if you can locate a support group where more long-term survivor patients attend you'll find what you need in terms of personal recommendations.
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« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2010, 03:10:44 PM »
jg,
Glad things have gone well with your procedure!

Thanks Marco , I couldn't be happier with the results .

 


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