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Author Topic: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado  (Read 7317 times)

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Offline WillyWump

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Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« on: August 18, 2010, 10:47:19 AM »
Nothing worse than a bad egg, If your in one of the 3 states beware..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_tainted_eggs

The eggs were distributed around the country and packaged under the names Lucerne, Albertson, Mountain Dairy, Ralph's, Boomsma's, Sunshine, Hillandale, Trafficanda, Farm Fresh, Shoreland, Lund, Dutch Farms and Kemp

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 10:56:32 AM »
I checked my eggs even though I don't live in those states...just to be safe.
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2010, 11:08:17 AM »
I checked my eggs and choked my chicken just to be safe .

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2010, 11:14:06 AM »
I purchased eggs yesterday and then had explosive-D for 12 hours with gas that smelled like rotting human corpses -- AM I GONNA DIE?
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2010, 11:15:38 AM »
and choked my chicken just to be safe .

Good job JG :)

btw, did anyone notice in the list of eggs there was a brand called "Ralphs Eggs".  Who would buy a carton of eggs with the name "Ralph's" on it? Me thinks Ralph needs to hire a different marketing director.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2010, 11:16:06 AM »
I purchased eggs yesterday and then had explosive-D for 12 hours with gas that smelled like rotting human corpses -- AM I GONNA DIE?

Yes.

I'll get started on the memorial thread now.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2010, 11:19:24 AM »
I purchased eggs yesterday and then had explosive-D for 12 hours with gas that smelled like rotting human corpses -- AM I GONNA DIE?


Purchasing eggs can not make you sick , its only a problem if you if you eat them . You were never at risk for salmonella .

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2010, 11:40:41 AM »
As an aside, I just discovered this new place two blocks from my apartment.  One of their egg specialties is this and I'd bet money that both Wumpy and jg would order it.

I think I may go and eat this soon, once the Salmonella flag is lowered.
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2010, 11:52:08 AM »
As an aside, I just discovered this new place two blocks from my apartment.  One of their egg specialties is this and I'd bet money that both Wumpy and jg would order it.

I think I may go and eat this soon, once the Salmonella flag is lowered.

Holy crap, that looks Divine!!

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2010, 11:55:31 AM »
Yeah, well AMG is scared of Filthydelphia so you won't be eating that.  OR A CHEESE STEAK.
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2010, 11:57:00 AM »
Purchasing eggs can not make you sick , its only a problem if you if you eat them . You were never at risk for salmonella .

I'm asking for a friend... Can you get salmonella from inserting contaminated eggs into your rectum?

Holy crap, that looks Divine!!
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It looks like a heart attack in a skillet.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2010, 12:04:53 PM by killfoile »

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2010, 11:59:04 AM »
It looks like a heart attack in a skillet.

OK, then you can order this dish.  It's supposedly most awesome.
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2010, 12:02:10 PM »
OK, then you can order this dish.  It's supposedly most awesome.

That looks great. We have a breakfast place here, Chez Cora and their food is superb. I'll try and find some pics, because you will not believe what they can do with fruit... for eating. Ask anyone who did AMG Montreal.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2010, 12:05:41 PM »
I'm asking for a friend... Can you get salmonella from inserting contaminated eggs into your rectum?


It looks like a heart attack in a skillet.

Never insert contaminated eggs into your rectum unless they are in a condom , if you dont have a condom just use the whole damn chicken and you should be fine .

I had sausage and gravy over fresh tomato's this very morning .  

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2010, 12:08:16 PM »

I had sausage and gravy over fresh tomato's this very morning . 

So much for your new dietary restrictions!
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2010, 12:12:01 PM »
So much for your new dietary restrictions!

I just pop more insulin . I dont do drugs anymore all I have left to abuse is pork products .

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2010, 12:15:16 PM »
OK, then you can order this dish.  It's supposedly most awesome.

The iron skillet dish with the eggs and meat looked gross to me but this quinoa one looks delectable.

I spend the extra few cents and always buy cage-free, free-range eggs, usually organic, where the hens were not fed a diet of crap. Most eggs sold in the US come from chickens that are fed hormones, are tortured and live in filthy conditions. It's a sad situation for the animals and potentially dangerous for those who eventually eat those eggs, a perfect breeding ground for salmonella and other pathogens. If you saw one of these large scale commercial egg operations you might not want to eat those eggs again.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2010, 12:20:14 PM »
I probably eat a grand total of two eggs per month.  I routinely throw out half of what I buy. 

I had a delicious pain au chocolat this morning with Tanzanian Peaberry Ruvuma coffee.
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2010, 02:54:51 PM »
That looks great. We have a breakfast place here, Chez Cora and their food is superb. I'll try and find some pics, because you will not believe what they can do with fruit... for eating. Ask anyone who did AMG Montreal.

I want some Poutine, dammit.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2010, 03:30:04 PM »
The iron skillet dish with the eggs and meat looked gross to me but this quinoa one looks delectable.


You were able to look at that pic and work out it was eggs and meat? lol
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2010, 03:41:00 PM »
One of their egg specialties is this and I'd bet money that both Wumpy and jg would order it.

I think I may go and eat this soon, once the Salmonella flag is lowered.

From the description in the above link: breakfast meat.

What the fuck is "breakfast meat"?

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2010, 03:48:34 PM »
From the description in the above link: breakfast meat.

What the fuck is "breakfast meat"?

MtD

The actual menu link for that item says "choice of breakfast meat" so just look under the side dishes at the bottom of the menu -- fyi, click this to edify your Aussie ass about scrapple :) I'm not quite sure what they're referring to with the "pork roll" item though.
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2010, 04:00:28 PM »
The actual menu link for that item says "choice of breakfast meat" so just look under the side dishes at the bottom of the menu -- fyi, click this to edify your Aussie ass about scrapple :) I'm not quite sure what they're referring to with the "pork roll" item though.

Well would it have killed the lazy fuckers to have written with your choice of breakfast meat? Given that dish is brought to table still in the fucking frying pan suggests it might.

Also the name "green eggs" sounds like some ghastly Dr Suess meets organic wankers play on words.

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Your nasty Pennsylvanian peasant meat dish doesn't afear me. I eat offal. :)

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2010, 12:27:39 AM »
OK, then you can order this dish.  It's supposedly most awesome.

Now that I would like to try! I adore quinoa. I had it tonight with my grilled fish.

For those who are diabetic, it is the best of all worlds, healthy, full of good stuff and low on the glycemic index.

Anyway, I would love to try this dish.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2010, 12:28:59 AM »
That looks great. We have a breakfast place here, Chez Cora and their food is superb. I'll try and find some pics, because you will not believe what they can do with fruit... for eating. Ask anyone who did AMG Montreal.


Hey Joe, I remember Chez Cora! Jody and I had a number of great breakfasts there.

YUM,

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2010, 12:35:39 AM »
Dammit y'all, all this talk about food has made me hungry again!

Now you go and mention scrapple. Oy, that sounds yummy. Served browned from the skillet with maple syrup over top.

My mind is saying yes, but my stomach - and my diet - is screaming, "SAVE ME!!"

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2010, 12:38:13 AM »
I have never heard of Quinoa ... I had to look it up , it sounds delish and Im going to try and find out where to buy it .

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« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2010, 02:57:49 AM »
I have never heard of Quinoa ... I had to look it up , it sounds delish and Im going to try and find out where to buy it .

It's revolting.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2010, 04:53:03 AM »
Cases of salmonella from infected eggs have now spread much wider than the three initially reported states--California, Minnesota, Colorado.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control is now reporting cases in ten additional states:

Arizona
Connecticut
Maryland
Massachusetts
Nevada
North Carolina
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Tennessee
Texas
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2010, 11:22:36 AM »
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control is now reporting cases in ten additional states:

Texas


Dammit, I just downed 3 fried eggs while laughing at those egg eaters in Cali, Minnesotta and Colorado. :-\

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2010, 11:28:18 AM »
Arizona also beware its here too

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2010, 11:40:42 AM »
Good thing I can score goose eggs at Fair Food - Reading Terminal Market, $3 each!  They also have quail eggs.
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2010, 01:27:24 PM »
Good thing I can score goose eggs at Fair Food - Reading Terminal Market, $3 each!  They also have quail eggs.

ick, I'm not sure I could eat goose eggs, or even quail eggs. I remember my grandmother telling me about how they ate Turkey eggs and how they were so big. I'm sure eggs other than a chicken egg are jsut fine, I think I'm just mentally conditioned to believe that an "egg" should only come from a chicken. Perhaps ill put that on the list of things to discuss with my psychotherapist.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2010, 01:33:32 PM »
ick, I'm not sure I could eat goose eggs, or even quail eggs. I remember my grandmother telling me about how they ate Turkey eggs and how they were so big. I'm sure eggs other than a chicken egg are jsut fine, I think I'm just mentally conditioned to believe that an "egg" should only come from a chicken. Perhaps ill put that on the list of things to discuss with my psychotherapist.

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How about a dish of fried duck egg with mojama -- and yes, I've had that :)

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2010, 01:55:15 PM »
How about a dish of fried duck egg with mojama -- and yes, I've had that :)



No, cause ducks are cute and I despise Tuna, especially dried tuna. I think I jsut vomitted in my mouth a little bit.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2010, 08:50:45 PM »
No, cause ducks are cute and I despise Tuna, especially dried tuna. I think I jsut vomitted in my mouth a little bit.

-W

It is no wonder, just having downed three (three??? :o :o) fried eggs. What is your cholesterol like?

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2010, 09:06:11 PM »
What is your cholesterol like?

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Her chain smoking tends to neutralize that.
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2010, 09:33:27 PM »
Her chain smoking tends to neutralize that.

LOL, perhaps.

Well I cant quote my cholesterol levels, but they ahve never been a problem according to Doc. I guess Im blessed, although I dont make it a habit, I can eat fried eggs, chicken fried steak, fried, this, fried that, and have never had a problem.
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2010, 10:36:09 PM »
LOL, perhaps.

Well I cant quote my cholesterol levels, but they ahve never been a problem according to Doc. I guess Im blessed, although I dont make it a habit, I can eat fried eggs, chicken fried steak, fried, this, fried that, and have never had a problem.

My, we are southern, aren't we!  ;)

I miss food sometimes.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2010, 12:11:10 AM »
The Cobb Salad I had for dinner tonight had hard boiled eggs in it.  This was followed by a sacher torte with raspberry sauce.
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2010, 12:21:02 AM »
The Cobb Salad I had for dinner tonight had hard boiled eggs in it.  This was followed by a sacher torte with raspberry sauce.

Hmmm... Sachertorte. Yum. Nothing like the one from the Hotel Sacher. Sweet memories.
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2010, 10:10:24 AM »
had hard boiled eggs in it.  

Just hoping the eggs arent from Iowa.

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Edited to add: It jsut dawned on me that Hard Boiled eggs are probably safe even if they DID contain Sal.
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2010, 11:28:44 AM »
I actually quite like hard boiled eggs.  I really, really hate fried eggs if they're at all runny, a legacy of my youth when we ate eggs three days a week.  However, I don't like my scrambled eggs dry -- they must be cooked over a low heat, or bowl over pot of low simmering water, and be moist a la oeufs brouilles manner.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2010, 02:26:56 PM »
jg... I've never seen you eat eggs before but, all that Chinese food you woofed down was scary? lol fried, baked, boiled you name it... it was gone from your plate! I hope alls well in the big city of Bham...

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2010, 02:38:27 PM »
jg... I've never seen you eat eggs before but, all that Chinese food you woofed down was scary? lol fried, baked, boiled you name it... it was gone from your plate! I hope alls well in the big city of Bham...

I love my neighborhood Chinese all you can eat joint . You forgot mention my plate full of french fries covered in brown gravy  :-[

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2010, 02:57:12 PM »
That makes me want to go here today -- a mere 5 block walk! There's also a Phở-specific place around the corner.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2010, 03:24:20 PM »
That makes me want to go here today -- a mere 5 block walk! There's also a Phở-specific place around the corner.

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Looks like that place would make me a happy man . I could eat Chinese , Japanese , Thai or viet.  food everyday and never get tired of it .

I did however object to my bacon and eggs western style breakfast prepared on the same grill as squid when I was in Thailand . I like squid but squid flavored eggs ... not so much .

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2010, 03:42:14 PM »

I did however object to my bacon and eggs western style breakfast prepared on the same grill as squid when I was in Thailand . I like squid but squid flavored eggs ... not so much .

Was that before or after the 12 year old boy you hired as a dancing partner?
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2010, 04:31:44 PM »
Was that before or after the 12 year old boy you hired as a dancing partner?

I was appalled when I found out that kind of thing goes on there , very disturbing .

I did get drunk one night in Puckett and pay to see a young lady shove a bird up her pussy but the joke was on me , the bird girl wasn't available so we had to settle for a girl and a clever gold fish trick .

All in all bargain entertainment for around five bucks .

 

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2010, 09:18:55 PM »
I don't like my scrambled eggs dry --


Hello....that's what ketchup is for.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #50 on: August 20, 2010, 10:24:21 PM »
I checked my eggs and choked my chicken just to be safe .

LMAO! :D But i guess I'd better check those eggs at the supermarket because I think we do get those Farm Fresh eggs shipped to Puerto Rico. We do have island fresh eggs but the American eggs are bigger...and I like them BIG! ;)
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #51 on: August 20, 2010, 10:44:57 PM »
I was appalled when I found out that kind of thing goes on there , very disturbing .

I did get drunk one night in Puckett and pay to see a young lady shove a bird up her pussy but the joke was on me , the bird girl wasn't available so we had to settle for a girl and a clever gold fish trick .

All in all bargain entertainment for around five bucks .

 

Still wanna see the bird trick?  For you I'll only charge 3 bucks.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #52 on: August 20, 2010, 10:49:10 PM »
Still wanna see the bird trick?  For you I'll only charge 3 bucks.

oh, coool. So your doing some side shows when you get time off from the the Circus?

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2010, 09:24:38 AM »
Still wanna see the bird trick?  For you I'll only charge 3 bucks.

I will be glad to pay the five bucks but you have to let me use my special bird for the trick .

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2010, 12:43:58 PM »
ick, I'm not sure I could eat goose eggs, or even quail eggs. I remember my grandmother telling me about how they ate Turkey eggs and how they were so big. I'm sure eggs other than a chicken egg are jsut fine, I think I'm just mentally conditioned to believe that an "egg" should only come from a chicken. Perhaps ill put that on the list of things to discuss with my psychotherapist.

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Our language does that: we say "egg" and "wine" because we simply assume the "chicken" and "grape" part.  In Chinese they say "chicken egg" and "grape wine" because they are more accustomed to other kinds.  On the other hand they simply say "meat" to mean pork, since it is so overwhelmingly the norm.  Every other kind of meat needs to be specified: cow meat, chicken meat etc. 

I remember my first time having a duck egg--not as dramatically different from chicken egg as I'd hoped.  But I love quail eggs and when I entertain in spring I often put a lot of them, just boiled in their beautiful shells, in a nice little nest on the table.  Almost everyone thinks it's just decoration until I tell them otherwise....

Speaking of China and eggs, has anyone had those wonderful preserved ones with gelatinous black "white" and creamy, grey/blue yolk?  Delicious with some good vinegar! 
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2010, 12:49:13 PM »
Speaking of China and eggs, has anyone had those wonderful preserved ones with gelatinous black "white" and creamy, grey/blue yolk?  Delicious with some good vinegar! 

by "preserved" dont you mean the eggs that sit around for 20 years? I think ive heard of those, and Im sure I would have projectile vomitting occuring if I was forced to sit down and eat one. If my egg is not shot out of an ass of a chicken within the previous 30 days it doesnt cross my lips.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #56 on: August 21, 2010, 01:05:40 PM »
That's it!  You can real all about them and see a picture here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_egg
 
I love them!  But for normal fresh eggs, of course I agree--the fresher the better.  

Edited to add--this is a beautiful picture: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Arranged_century_egg_on_a_plate.jpg

But they should have a mixture of rice wine vinegar, soy sauce, and scallions drizzled over them.  Ginger also goes well. 
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #57 on: August 21, 2010, 01:09:22 PM »
Don't forget those vile pickled eggs sitting in a musty huge jar in English pubs.  Is that why everyone's always vomiting out on the street when the pub closes?
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #58 on: August 21, 2010, 01:18:37 PM »
The iron skillet dish with the eggs and meat looked gross to me but this quinoa one looks delectable.


Whether the iron skillet dish looks gross or great to me, would depend on the gravy.  I love eggs, bacon or scrapple, and biscuits, so as long as the gravy is good I'd enjoy the dish. 

But how did I miss the mention of quinoa?  I love it!  Here's a recipe I love: 

Sautee a lot of onions, leeks, garlic and hot peppers in olive oil or butter.  Add quinoa and a lot of good chicken or beef broth.  Barely simmer for around two hours.  An hour in, add lots of potatoes.  Just before serving, stir in chopped parsley and cilantro, sour cream, and cream cheese.  That's it!  No eggs in this recipe, but I'm sure a poached egg or two on top would be good. 

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I spend the extra few cents and always buy cage-free, free-range eggs, usually organic, where the hens were not fed a diet of crap. Most eggs sold in the US come from chickens that are fed hormones, are tortured and live in filthy conditions. It's a sad situation for the animals and potentially dangerous for those who eventually eat those eggs, a perfect breeding ground for salmonella and other pathogens. If you saw one of these large scale commercial egg operations you might not want to eat those eggs again.

Absolutely.  And in addition, the eggs of truly free-range hens are so much more delicious!  My father used to scoff at these things until I gave him supermarket eggs and the eggs from my Amish farmer, side by side.  Wow! 

I would actually like to abstain from all meat that came from factory or caged animals, but that would mean not eating in restaurants and I just can't get to that point yet.
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #59 on: August 21, 2010, 03:56:57 PM »
Don't forget those vile pickled eggs sitting in a musty huge jar in English pubs.  Is that why everyone's always vomiting out on the street when the pub closes?

They would have been a nice snack for you as you took your horse drawn hackney carriage from one pub to another. ::)
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #60 on: August 21, 2010, 03:57:18 PM »

But how did I miss the mention of quinoa?  I love it!  Here's a recipe I love: 

Sautee a lot of onions, leeks, garlic and hot peppers in olive oil or butter.  Add quinoa and a lot of good chicken or beef broth.  Barely simmer for around two hours.  An hour in, add lots of potatoes.  Just before serving, stir in chopped parsley and cilantro, sour cream, and cream cheese.  That's it!  No eggs in this recipe, but I'm sure a poached egg or two on top would be good. 

 

Thanks, I'll have to try that  ;)


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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2010, 04:44:20 PM »
All the more reason to look for a locally laid egg, if possible?

I was in the supermarket today (in Switzerland) and the same thing that happened years ago in US is happening hear - everything imported from the cheapest source and not many people complaining because it keeps the price low.

But also, conversely, in the US, "local" produce has been coming up for many years now. I know you can go to a farmer's market in many cities and get local veges and stuff.  I'm not saying that local always mean safer, but it is alarming that 2 "farms" in Iowa managed to ship 500 million eggs in a couple of months.  Half a BILLION.  I also see, in the US and here in Switzerland too, that supermarkets have to put the origin of food on the price label.  You can see if the apple was grown in your state, or Chile, for example.

Here in Switzerland, the two big supermarket stores resisted buying cheap until about 5 years ago. Now, in Switzerland, you can get a full range of eggs - Swiss bio eggs, Swiss free range open air farm eggs (but not bio), luxury open air French eggs, factory French, and factory German eggs.  You can go to the farmer's market but a local farmer's egg costs 75 cents or even a buck. Thats too expensive. I buy them for a treat, when I want a hard boiled egg pretty simple, on a open sandwich or a salad.  I guess nobody is going to make cookies with eggs that are 12 bucks a dozen!

Today, I couldn't find one real farm grown open field Swiss tomato in the big supermarket. Its mid August.  You go to the farmer's market and there are piles and tables of Swiss farm tomatos, and they are cheap!  Why can't the supermarket manage to buy these and sell them?  Why isn't there a single bell pepper from the Swiss farms - just all those tasteless ones from Holland. In August.  

Not everyone has the time or the idea or the money to buy something "sustainable" - but we could all use a wake up all about buying cheap (therefore afforable) eggs (or any food) from some sort of conglomerate factory capable of producing hundreds of millions of eggs to supply a vast country like the US.

Those cheap eggs should, of course, be safe! Imperative.  But consumers need to be smart and stop expecting the impossible.  

In the documentary, Food Inc, there is a good expose on local chickens versus factory chickens.  The butcher in the local family run chicken farm shows how the health authorities tried to cut their operations because they slaughter in open air, under the sun, and clean and pack the chickens.  But he explained, thats how its been done for generations and it produces a chicken that's healthy to eat, for us humans, and a decent enough life for the chicken!


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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2010, 04:55:40 PM »
Isn't there some sort of middle-ground, finally?  Where food comes from semblance of a farm, even if its pretty huge, and raised in some semblance of normal animal or vegetable production that we have known for hundreds if not thousands of years? 

Swiss beef is still pretty small time production here, and thus restaurants can still serve rare beef, or steak tartar.  I'll make mayonnaise with raw eggs with a egg laid a few days ago locally, trusting the shop and the source.  Maybe that's a bit foolish. 

In the US - does the government say its safe to eat ANY egg raw, nowadays? 
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #63 on: August 21, 2010, 05:10:55 PM »
All the more reason to look for a locally laid egg, if possible?


Today, I couldn't find one real farm grown open field Swiss tomato in the big supermarket. Its mid August.  You go to the farmer's market and there are piles and tables of Swiss farm tomatos, and they are cheap!  Why can't the supermarket manage to buy these and sell them?  Why isn't there a single bell pepper from the Swiss farms - just all those tasteless ones from Holland. In August.  



I've wondered about this for years.  We produce apples right here in NY state, and the farmer's market is full of them.  But in the supermarket--even at Whole Foods--all the apples are from the opposite end of the continent.  Why? 

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In the documentary, Food Inc, there is a good expose on local chickens versus factory chickens.  The butcher in the local family run chicken farm shows how the health authorities tried to cut their operations because they slaughter in open air, under the sun, and clean and pack the chickens.  But he explained, thats how its been done for generations and it produces a chicken that's healthy to eat, for us humans, and a decent enough life for the chicken!


 I saw that documentary; it was good.  The health authorities either are operating on pure ignorance, or else are deliberately contriving things to hurt the small family farm.  There was salmonella at a restaurant once and they immediately blamed the one farm that didn't wash its eggs.  But this is idiotic.  When you was an egg, you strip the shell of the protective oils that keep bacteria out.  Unwashed eggs are safer than washed.  But what do they know? 

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In the US - does the government say its safe to eat ANY egg raw, nowadays? 

I have no idea and wouldn't care, but I eat raw egg (yolks, of course, never whites) all the time and have no problem.  Mayonnaise, egg nog, sukiyaki, on top of a steak tartare, in salad dressing or tiramisu or even some drinks. 

If I make fried or poached or soft boiled eggs and the yolk is still liquid, does that count as cooked or raw?  If the latter, then I have raw yolk on a virtually daily basis. 
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May '09     645   25        6,478
Aug. '09    688   30      19,571
Nov. '09     641    27       9,598
Feb. '10     638    27       4,480
May '10      687      9    799,000 (CMV)
July '10      600     21      31,000
Nov '10      682     24     15,000
June '11     563    23     210,000 (blasto)
July  '11      530    22      39,000
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #64 on: August 21, 2010, 07:13:46 PM »
I used to know a guy who raised chickens and he told me free range meant his chickens has access to go outdoors if they so wish .

He also added they never wish to go out in the hot sun and preferred to stay inside . It was good for business being able to sell free range chicken but it meant little but in title .

Our conversation was kind of tongue and cheek so I really don't know how accurate that info is /was .   

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #65 on: August 21, 2010, 07:20:17 PM »
Yeah really -- my grandparents had a chicken coop on their farm and the chickens stayed in the little building. They probably only walked around when screaming about the black snakes that would venture in regularly.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #66 on: August 21, 2010, 07:20:46 PM »
Don't forget those vile pickled eggs sitting in a musty huge jar in English pubs.  Is that why everyone's always vomiting out on the street when the pub closes?

Not where I live. I can only think of one pub on the Rock that has a jar of those behind the bar. I totally agree - they're vile.
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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #67 on: August 21, 2010, 09:29:59 PM »
My grandmother raised chickens on her farm as well.  One thing I could not bring myself to do was catch them and wring their necks.  My grandmother did it with such a quickness and flair but I "chickened out" everytime until she gave up asking me to do it.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #68 on: August 21, 2010, 10:38:23 PM »

In the US - does the government say its safe to eat ANY egg raw, nowadays? 

I remember hearing somehwere that they recommend for raw recipes (Eggnogs, Ceaser dressing, etc) and for special groups (elderly, compromised immune system, etc...)... that you use pastuerized eggs (they are supposed to have a little "P" stamped  on the egg themselves) However im not sure Ive ever seen an egg with a "P" on it, or even how much they cost. Ill have to check it out next time im in the store.

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #69 on: August 21, 2010, 10:58:06 PM »
I'm already craving my Sunday late morning omelettes - the eggs are Publix, so I should be fine - let's hope (and they'll be thoroughly cooked.   :)
September 13, 2008 - diagnosed +
Labs:
Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

Offline WillyWump

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #70 on: August 21, 2010, 11:02:30 PM »
- the eggs are Publix, so I should be fine - let's hope

Atta'boy! Way to roll the dice!!

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Last Labs-
6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

Current Meds: Prezista/Epzicom/ Norvir
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Offline phildinftlaudy

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #71 on: August 21, 2010, 11:05:12 PM »
Atta'boy! Way to roll the dice!!


I guess I've always lived a little bit on the precipice of danger   ;D
September 13, 2008 - diagnosed +
Labs:
Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #72 on: August 21, 2010, 11:11:55 PM »
I had (soft) scrambled eggs and bacon this morning -- supermarket eggs, and store brand no less.  The lowest of the plebeian low.  The bacon was Smithfield... gotta support Virginia pork.
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Offline mecch

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #73 on: August 21, 2010, 11:12:20 PM »
Yeah really -- my grandparents had a chicken coop on their farm and the chickens stayed in the little building.

Yep, I am not a farmer. Didn't say any gimmick of labeling (free range, bio, etc.) makes it sure you have a healthier chicken. But my gram had a chicken coop too, and it was NOT the pitch black factory with chickens that couldn't walk that I saw in Food Inc.  

I've tasted all the varieties and its true the "traditional" French farm chicken (free range, not bio) tastes better and has a better texture than the "budget ones".  But they are 3-4 times the price.  The same thing goes for the gamme of eggs.  

It would be good to keep a happy medium.  If it keeps up like this, I think we'll end up with only two lines of food, like in Soylent Green.  Real tomatoes for the rich in gated communities, and industrial cracker-like food substances for the masses.
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #74 on: August 21, 2010, 11:19:35 PM »
I agree that free range chicken tastes much better, especially for a tasty roasted chicken.  Fortunately I have several good butchers near me in the old Italian market area.
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Salmonella Eggs in California, Minnesotta and Colorado
« Reply #75 on: August 22, 2010, 10:35:40 PM »
Since we are talkin BAd Eggs, how bout this list..

Top Ten Riskiest FDA Regulated Foods:

http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/health/2009/10/07/riskiest-fda-regulated-foods#slide=10

1. LEafy Greens
2. Eggs (duh)
3. Tuna
4. Oysters
5. Potatoes (that was a surprise)
6. Cheese
7. Ice Cream (Whhhhhhat?)
8. Tomatos
9 Sprouts
10. BErries

-W

POZ since '08

Last Labs-
6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

Current Meds: Prezista/Epzicom/ Norvir
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