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Offline needhelp136

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Panty sniffing. Sad but true!
« on: August 16, 2010, 03:36:23 PM »
Let me start off by saying that this website is a wonderful thing that really helps people in their time of need.  All of you that work for this site and volunteer are truly fantastic people!

I have read all of the forums pertaining to my concerns and I was still hoping to get some direct feedback about my situation so I can move on with my life and stop obsessing.

Three years ago I had unprotected sex with a woman (I am a man) and was given oral sex from a sex worker at a massage place.  At the time I went out and got the Clearview Complete HIV 1/2 test at 3 months, 6 months, and at a year.  Everything was negative.

Since then I have been in a solid relationship, but we went through some tough times a few years back and I had some handjobs done at a massage parlor.  The last full handjob was about 1 1/2 years ago.  Again, I went out and got a rapid test which said I was negative.

After that I would go to these massage places and masturbate while these girls would massage me.  I didn't want them to touch my penis out of fear, so I thought it was best to do it myself.  The last time I had this done was on Dec. 31st 2009 (almost 8 months ago).  At the time the woman rubbed my pubic region, testicles, and base of my penis while I masturbated.  Again, I was concerned so I had a Clearview Complete HIV 1/2 test done in March (at about 11 weeks), one in July(at 6 months), and then I had my doctor do the ELISA test at the end of July ( 4 days shy of a full 7 months).  Everything came back negative. 

I haven't been able to kick my fear, so I kept going online and doing a lot of research to try and ease my fear.  On the HIV site, The Body, one of the doctor's posted that with certain behavior to get a 100% negative result you need to be tested at the one year mark.  I started to panic because I thought 3 months was pretty much a guarantee and that 6 months was overkill. 

My last fear deals with towels.  I was concerned that at these massage places even though I masturbated myself, they used wet towels on my to help clean things up.  What if those towels were already dirty and someone else's sperm or blood were on those towels.  I know it sounds ridiculous but the idea got me really worried.  So here are my questions to the wise ones at aidsmeds:

1.  If my unprotected sex and oral sex was 2.5 to 3 years ago, am I completely in the clear about those?

2.  Are the Clearview Complete HIV 1/2 rapid tests extremely accurate and trustworthy?

3.  Am I in any danger from the massages that I described?

4.  Are the towels, even if used w/ blood and semen from someone else before me, a way to transmit HIV?

5.  Is the ELISA test extremely accurate at almost 7 months after my last massage?

6. Do I need a test that checks for the actual virus or are the antibody test proof enough with a negative result?

7.  Do I need another test at the year mark.  What is the definitive window period when you get a guarantee?

8.  Am I endangering my girlfriend at all because of my past experiences?

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP!

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Re: Am I at risk? More testing?
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2010, 03:44:17 PM »
Let me start off by saying that this website is a wonderful thing that really helps people in their time of need.  All of you that work for this site and volunteer are truly fantastic people!

I have read all of the forums pertaining to my concerns and I was still hoping to get some direct feedback about my situation so I can move on with my life and stop obsessing.

Three years ago I had unprotected sex with a woman (I am a man) and was given oral sex from a sex worker at a massage place.  At the time I went out and got the Clearview Complete HIV 1/2 test at 3 months, 6 months, and at a year.  Everything was negative.

Since then I have been in a solid relationship, but we went through some tough times a few years back and I had some handjobs done at a massage parlor.  The last full handjob was about 1 1/2 years ago.  Again, I went out and got a rapid test which said I was negative.

After that I would go to these massage places and masturbate while these girls would massage me.  I didn't want them to touch my penis out of fear, so I thought it was best to do it myself.  The last time I had this done was on Dec. 31st 2009 (almost 8 months ago).  At the time the woman rubbed my pubic region, testicles, and base of my penis while I masturbated.  Again, I was concerned so I had a Clearview Complete HIV 1/2 test done in March (at about 11 weeks), one in July(at 6 months), and then I had my doctor do the ELISA test at the end of July ( 4 days shy of a full 7 months).  Everything came back negative. 

I haven't been able to kick my fear, so I kept going online and doing a lot of research to try and ease my fear.  On the HIV site, The Body, one of the doctor's posted that with certain behavior to get a 100% negative result you need to be tested at the one year mark.  I started to panic because I thought 3 months was pretty much a guarantee and that 6 months was overkill. 

My last fear deals with towels.  I was concerned that at these massage places even though I masturbated myself, they used wet towels on my to help clean things up.  What if those towels were already dirty and someone else's sperm or blood were on those towels.  I know it sounds ridiculous but the idea got me really worried.  So here are my questions to the wise ones at aidsmeds:

1.  If my unprotected sex and oral sex was 2.5 to 3 years ago, am I completely in the clear about those?

2.  Are the Clearview Complete HIV 1/2 rapid tests extremely accurate and trustworthy?

3.  Am I in any danger from the massages that I described?

4.  Are the towels, even if used w/ blood and semen from someone else before me, a way to transmit HIV?

5.  Is the ELISA test extremely accurate at almost 7 months after my last massage?

6. Do I need a test that checks for the actual virus or are the antibody test proof enough with a negative result?

7.  Do I need another test at the year mark.  What is the definitive window period when you get a guarantee?

8.  Am I endangering my girlfriend at all because of my past experiences?

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP!

1. Yes.

2. Yes.

3. No.

4. No.

5. Yes.

6. Antibody test is sufficient.

7. No, three months is sufficient.

8. No.

MtD

Offline needhelp136

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Re: Am I at risk? More testing?
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2010, 04:04:46 PM »
Thank you for your response MtD. I appreciate it!

Can Ann or one of the other moderators answer the questions as well being you guys and gals are the experts?  I would really appreciate your thoughts.

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Re: Am I at risk? More testing?
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2010, 04:09:28 PM »
I concur with Matty. On all counts.
"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Re: Am I at risk? More testing?
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2010, 04:20:31 PM »
Need,

The ONLY thing on your list that warranted testing was the unprotected intercourse. Neither getting a blowjob nor a handjob are risks for hiv infection. And hiv cannot be transmitted from towels, doorknobs, glasses, forks, knives, spoons, cups, mugs, public toilets, or any thing else in the environment.

The window period for hiv testing is three months and has been for years now. In fact, the vast majority of people will seroconvert and test positive by six WEEKS, with the average time to seroconversion being only 22 days.

Here's what you need to know in order to remain hiv negative:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT CURRENTLY NEED FURTHER TESTING, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Re: Am I at risk? More testing?
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2010, 05:18:27 PM »
Thank you to everyone that replied, you are all very helpful and it is much appreciated.

Lastly to Ann: Do you feel that the antibody tests such as the Clearview Complete HIV 1/2 and the ELISA tests are the only tests needed to get an accurate and positive negative result?  I wasn't sure if I needed a test for the virus itself or if the antibody tests are the norm.  Thanks again!

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Re: Am I at risk? More testing?
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2010, 05:34:08 PM »
Need,

What the heck is a "positive negative result"?

The test you used and ELISA tests in general are all you need for a negative result. Antibody tests are indeed the norm.

As I told you earlier, the ONLY real risk you had was the unprotected vaginal intercourse. As hiv is much more difficult to transmit from a woman to a man, you were never likely to test positive over a one-off anyway.

You are absolutely, conclusively hiv negative. Make sure you use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse in future and you will remain hiv negative. It really is that simple!

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline needhelp136

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Re: Am I at risk? More testing?
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2010, 05:38:18 PM »
Thank you Ann!
  I meant "a guaranteed negative result" when I said "a positive negative result". Sorry for the confusion and thanks again for all that you do to help people!

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Panty sniffing. Sad but true!
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2010, 09:53:10 AM »
Here is a lame question, but I promise it is for a friend.  I told my friend about your site and all of the great info I have gotten.  I guess he had a bit of a fetish and was too embarrassed to sign up and ask for himself.

Is it possible to get HIV or anything else from smelling or touching a woman's panties that she has just taken off?

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Re: Panty sniffing. Sad but true!
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2010, 10:20:19 AM »
need,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. You'd know that if you'd bothered to read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.





You were told in great detail yesterday that hiv is absolutely NOT transmitted from objects in the environment. Last time I checked, that includes panties. Get a grip.

And hiv cannot be transmitted from towels, doorknobs, glasses, forks, knives, spoons, cups, mugs, public toilets, or anything else in the environment.

Ann

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Testing window - worried
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2010, 01:58:40 PM »
I have a question for Andy along the same lines.  I had my last sexual exposure two years and seven months ago.  Other than that, I had a hand job at a massage place 7 months ago.  I got test with rapid tests at the 3 month and 6 month mark, all being negative.  I got the ELISA test at the 7month mark just to make sure, and it was negative.  My question is, can the fact that I had my appendix and tonsils (both being part of the immune system) removed give a false negative on the ELISA or rapid tests? Or does it not affect the test at all? Thanks!

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Re: Panty sniffing. Sad but true!
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2010, 05:36:01 PM »
Neither of those surgeries would in any way affect the reliability of your test results.

Based on what you have reported you are definitely HIV negative. Period. End of story.
Andy Velez

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Re: Panty sniffing. Sad but true!
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2010, 07:37:40 PM »
Need,

I managed to remove your post from someone else's thread earlier, but my computer seized up due to an anti-virus program starting a scheduled scan. What follows is what I could not post at the time.

You posted the above question in a thread belonging to another person. If you'd bothered to read the Welcome thread like I asked you to, you would have read the following posting guideline:


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Only those Moderators and members who are authorized to answer questions in the Am I Infected? forum are permitted do so. Unauthorized responses may be deleted without permission of the poster. Repeatedly posting replies of this nature may result in a Time Out or permanent ban, at the discretion of the Moderator Team.


Please consider yourself warned!

While you weren't answering a question, it isn't rocket science that you should not post your questions in another persons thread, especially when you've already been told to keep all your questions or comments in your own thread.  

You didn't have a risk and it's no surprise that you are definitely hiv negative. The lack of appendix or tonsils in no way changes that fact. You do not have hiv.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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