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Author Topic: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant  (Read 6893 times)

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Offline edfu

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There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« on: August 09, 2010, 07:15:08 PM »
You go, girl!  It's about time someone did something about this too-common annoyance:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/08/09/jetblue-attendant-goes-ballistic-on-flight-to-jfk/

Back before a passenger drove him nuts:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/meltdown/steven-slater-back-jet-blue-passenger-drove-him-nuts

Personally, I'd give him a medal. 
« Last Edit: August 09, 2010, 07:23:14 PM by edfu »
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2010, 07:41:48 PM »



    7 years in prison for stealing some beer?  That's the only thing I see he did wrong....  I gotta admit though, it must have been something seeing a guy pull the emergency slide escape and run across the tarmac with a 6pk of Corona in hand.  I do consider this a cool way to give notice of resignation.
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Offline tednlou2

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2010, 07:49:03 PM »
Most of us have had fantasies of doing something like this at our jobs.  However, he has put himself in legal trouble now.  I wonder if he is unstable to begin with.  The right thing to do would have been to report the passenger for hitting him and the passenger would have been arrested--maybe.  And, grabbing the beer on the way down the chute.  Hilarious!!

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2010, 07:54:40 PM »
Most of us have had fantasies of doing something like this at our jobs.  However, he has put himself in legal trouble now.  I wonder if he is unstable to begin with.  The right thing to do would have been to report the passenger for hitting him and the passenger would have been arrested--maybe.  And, grabbing the beer on the way down the chute.  Hilarious!!

The passenger should have been arrested regardless.  Do we really have to wonder why he wasn't?
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2010, 07:54:45 PM »
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2010, 08:19:01 PM »
Funny and we have all had days dealing with colleagues or clients when we just can't take their selfish bullshit anymore.
I hope he gets off easy with a slap and a prescription for lorazepam.
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2010, 08:19:52 PM »
A friend of mine who is a flight attendant snapped after a passenger refused to sit down and called her a bitch. She told him to go fuck himself... twice. She almost lost her job over it.

And I do know from personal experience there is nothing like an irate, gay flight attendant. ;)

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2010, 02:06:01 AM »
P.S.  This story keeps getting better and better.  Now there are reports that the cops found our great drama queen of the skies at home "in bed with his boyfriend":

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/08/09/2010-08-09_talk_about_turbulance_jetblue_flight_attendant_drops_intercom_fbomb_bolts_down_e.html
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2010, 11:28:26 AM »
I somehow doubt that if this had been a straight woman they'd have reported finding her at home with her boyfriend.  That said, the arresting cop is... well, arresting.  I'm not even sure if they allow sleeve tattoos on our police force in Filthy.

Also, Rockaway, Queens is one of the oddest places -- superb beaches populated with housing projects (with a few exceptions) and even large tracts of perpetually empty lots where there used to be century old bungalows and wood shacks.  I always kind of wanted to renovate a bungalow there.

Oh, and let's not forget the excellent and mostly unknown gay beach at Riis Park... I used to go ever summer because it was full of Puerto Rican guys and void of those wretched Fire Island types.  All about taking the subway and bus to the beach, and then having live entertainment consisting of vogueing with beach towels.  Plus I once met Kristen Bjorn superhung model Joao Pauzao there.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2010, 11:38:12 AM by Miss Philicia »
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2010, 12:47:51 PM »
"Iíve slept with enough men to know that Iím not gay"

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2010, 04:34:45 PM »
"No one will ever be free so long as there are pestilences."--Albert Camus, "The Plague"

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2010, 04:39:26 PM »
The New York Post is reporting he's HIV-positive:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/jetblue_natic_SdcailLAMLPJFNTfsVj8BM

the Miss P Post, via two separate sources on Facebook (one of who has Mr. Slater on his friends list), could tell you something else about him.  BUT I AM NOT ONE TO GOSSIP.
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2010, 05:12:18 PM »
Quote:   He boasted to skeptical cops that he really did escape by chute with his carry-on luggage.
"Oh, yes, I did! I threw them down first and I went down after," he told cops, sources said.


That's awesome.

Seems like JetBlue and the airline industry has a bigger problem though. How long do they expect people to put up with this crap before something like this happens again?  Its a good thing someone as nice as this guy snapped, and he actually had someone to go home to, it could have gotten a whole lot uglier.  

He kind of reminds of me of that one character from the control tower in the movie "Airplane". One of my favorite characters that added comic relief to a comedy.  Stephen Stucker, as Johnny. That's it.
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2010, 05:16:35 PM »
Sometimes you just have to CLOCK a Queen, when giving SHADE isn't enough  ;D
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« Last Edit: August 10, 2010, 05:21:15 PM by edfu »
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2010, 05:54:42 PM »
Also, Rockaway, Queens is one of the oddest places -- superb beaches populated with housing projects (with a few exceptions) and even large tracts of perpetually empty lots where there used to be century old bungalows and wood shacks.  I always kind of wanted to renovate a bungalow there.

Sorry about the brief hijack.....I'm reading a book (real life crime drama) about a bag lady who was murdered in New York years ago.  Years and years ago, she had been raised in Red Hook, with her family who were immigrants from Italy.  The book went on to say how, even though it has lovely beaches, is now kind of, well, over-run with crime etc.

Edited to correct name of city...nevermind
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2010, 12:46:12 PM »
He's a HERO.  He should get his own sitcom.
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2010, 01:11:40 AM »
The people's new hero made Stephen Colbert's Alpha Dog of the Week.  I'm with Stephen on this---No one got any cell video of this? 

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/343699/august-10-2010/alpha-dog-of-the-week---steven-slater

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2010, 03:50:48 PM »
Seems like JetBlue passengers are saying Diva Slater was a big ole mess during the entire flight, not just at the end.
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2010, 04:33:29 PM »
Funniest story I have read in a long time.  I never questioned for a second that he was gay.  My gay son used to be a flight attendant and I can SO see him doing something like that.  I can't believe they are charging him with a crime.  He has no job now, isn't that enough.  Flight attendants are abused daily by obnoxious passengers, Slater should have punched the oaf in the mouth and taught him some respect for others.  GO SLATER!

Oh, lest we forget.  Mark my words on this, the obnoxious passenger has already retained an attorney and will sue JetBlue because he was called a bad name in front of everybody.  Boo effing Hoo.  He will win, and get lots of money.

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2010, 04:55:08 PM »
Seems like JetBlue passengers are saying Diva Slater was a big ole mess during the entire flight, not just at the end.

Not so. There was a really articulate and pretty nice woman, a former news reporter, on Anderson Cooper who said Steven was perfectly professional the whole flight.
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2010, 08:27:58 PM »
Not so. There was a really articulate and pretty nice woman, a former news reporter, on Anderson Cooper who said Steven was perfectly professional the whole flight.

Really meech -- absolutely "not so" I take it?  You better let the Port Authority officials know then because it seems they're not conclusively sure at the very least.

At best one could say "who knows", not "not so".
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2010, 09:19:39 PM »
Not so. There was a really articulate and pretty nice woman, a former news reporter, on Anderson Cooper who said Steven was perfectly professional the whole flight.
Once he told her to sit back down and she didn't, she was in violation of federal law. She may find her ass in more trouble than Steven.

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2010, 09:23:26 PM »
Once he told her to sit back down and she didn't, she was in violation of federal law. She may find her ass in more trouble than Steven.
I agree - I don't think she will come forward... cause if she does she could face up to a $25,000 fine I think they said on the news.

You know, they have cameras on school buses, cameras at traffic lights, why don't they have cameras on airplanes?  Especially after 9/11?  Just a thought...
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2010, 09:46:50 PM »
I agree - I don't think she will come forward... cause if she does she could face up to a $25,000 fine I think they said on the news.

You know, they have cameras on school buses, cameras at traffic lights, why don't they have cameras on airplanes?  Especially after 9/11?  Just a thought...
They also have your seating arraingements. Even if she took a different seat. It won't be hard to figure out who she is.

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2010, 10:02:36 PM »
They also have your seating arraingements. Even if she took a different seat. It won't be hard to figure out who she is.
They said the investigators are contacting all the people that were sitting in seats in that area to get their stories on what happened...
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2010, 11:21:28 PM »
Really meech -- absolutely "not so" I take it?  You better let the Port Authority officials know then because it seems they're not conclusively sure at the very least.

At best one could say "who knows", not "not so".

Miss P, I've seen the same reporting beginning on The Today Show this morning.  Passengers were saying he was rude, bumping into people, and only served half the people before the incident.  They also were saying he got the cut on his head back in PA way before the incident.  So who knows the truth right now, but there are many reports he was the instigator.

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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2010, 09:12:33 AM »
Well that airplane experience is turning into a major rat fuck so let's keep it civilized here.
Miss P - ok "not so" SORRY. Why are your panties in a bunch anyway?
I meant - not all passengers are saying he was a jerk - I saw an interview otherwise.

What do you want, forum - him to be a hideous ex-junkie drama queen cracking up?  Or the hardworking everyday Joe who was pushed too far (i.e. - the hero).  

That woman should have shut her trap and sat down, at the beginning of the flight and the end.  I know what cows people can be on airplanes!  It's horrifying.

Since he was HIV+, and bleeding the whole flight, I hope some other ignorant litigious famewhoring passengers sue the company for public health risk and spread vicious fears that half the flight was infected through their snacks.  Then the story would be the RAT FUCK of all rat fucks and we can have a field day here, too, insulting and bitch slapping each other.
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2010, 09:16:22 AM »
we can have a field day here, too, insulting bitch slapping each other.

What's new?
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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2010, 01:17:15 PM »
Peeps, let's keep it chill in here, please. No throwing of baggage or other flying objects including words in here.

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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2010, 02:45:04 PM »
Thanks for your cooperation and thanks for flying AIDSMEDS.

You forgot to add:  Please feel free to help yourself to a complimentary 6 pack and please use our slide upon your exit.
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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2010, 05:29:12 PM »
NBC news: video of the deed. (sorry that it's still hard to see with that poll/sign in the way, but you can get the general idea)

I don't think I read, or understood, that this happened with the plane pulled right up and hooked up to the jetway, but once I did read it I totally thought what he did was quite dangerous.  If there had been one of those luggage handlers standing right there they'd either be dead or have a very serious injury. I somehow doubt it would be like getting hit with a pillow.
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2010, 06:23:56 PM »
NBC news: video of the deed. (sorry that it's still hard to see with that poll/sign in the way, but you can get the general idea)

I don't think I read, or understood, that this happened with the plane pulled right up and hooked up to the jetway, but once I did read it I totally thought what he did was quite dangerous.  If there had been one of those luggage handlers standing right there they'd either be dead or have a very serious injury. I somehow doubt it would be like getting hit with a pillow.

Can you imagine being the son of one of those baggage handlers and trying to explain to friends how papa died?
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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2010, 09:52:08 PM »
Can you imagine being the son of one of those baggage handlers and trying to explain to friends how papa died?
PaPa got hit by a slide, a big fucking yellow slide.

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« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2010, 09:56:39 PM »
Did you hear how that screaming fairy is still actually married to his (female) wife from 1991?
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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2010, 10:01:23 PM »
Did you hear how that screaming fairy is still actually married to his (female) wife from 1991?
Kinky!!!!!!!

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2010, 10:15:37 PM »
TMZ: Another gay drama queen lying for attention.

What a concept. You mean like certain queens who participate in certain places of the internet? Maybe they just need a little love.
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« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2010, 06:28:16 PM »
the Miss P Post, via two separate sources on Facebook (one of who has Mr. Slater on his friends list), could tell you something else about him.  BUT I AM NOT ONE TO GOSSIP.

You're going to keep us dangling like that?  Enquiring minds want to know!
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Offline red_Dragon888

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2010, 11:06:06 AM »
Now he's maybe getting a reality show... 

Flight Attendants Gone Wild...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I3ba3lnFHik

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Offline red_Dragon888

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2010, 11:07:26 AM »
Did you hear how that screaming fairy is still actually married to his (female) wife from 1991?
Miss P, you sound jealous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I3ba3lnFHik

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Offline Nestor

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2010, 11:47:51 AM »
I somehow doubt that if this had been a straight woman they'd have reported finding her at home with her boyfriend.  

I was amazed at this--they not only reported it, they made it the headline.  And just in case anyone thought he might have been reading magazines in bed with his boyfriend, they had to spell out in the first paragraph that the two were "having sex".  

I am not old but I can remember when the sexual orientation and activity in question would have been revealed, if at all, with euphemism.  

I now have a greater appreciation for this than I did when I first read it:  

http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-homosexual-saves-four-from-fire,1553/
Summer 2004--became HIV+
Dec. 2005--found out

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Jan. '06    725    25      9,097
Nov. '06    671    34     52,202
Apr. '07    553    30      24,270
Sept. '07  685    27       4,849
Jan. '08    825    29       4,749
Mar. '08    751    30     16,026
Aug. '08    653    30       3,108
Oct. '08     819    28     10,046
Jan '09      547    31     13,000
May '09     645   25        6,478
Aug. '09    688   30      19,571
Nov. '09     641    27       9,598
Feb. '10     638    27       4,480
May '10      687      9    799,000 (CMV)
July '10      600     21      31,000
Nov '10      682     24     15,000
June '11     563    23     210,000 (blasto)
July  '11      530    22      39,000
Aug '11      677     22      21,000
Sept. '12    747     15      14,000

Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2010, 01:18:57 PM »
I now have a greater appreciation for this than I did when I first read it:  

http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-homosexual-saves-four-from-fire,1553/

"Doctors describe his condition as stable but homosexual."  :D

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Re: There's Nothing Like an Irate Gay Flight Attendant
« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2010, 09:10:17 AM »
"Doctors describe his condition as stable but homosexual."  :D
lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I3ba3lnFHik

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