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Offline samalxhere

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I am new to this forum ...so plz forgive if i made any mistake in my posting and comments

I m sam alex...an indian who is working in cape Town.(SA).. Now we do have  happy time here with WC football ... but am bit worried with my issue.. even i am  in South Africa i did nt have sex with any one here .. i was so much cared about my health. but last year i visited abuja - cpital of nigeria.. in order to settle our issues with govt.. during the first day of my visit i had to saty there in lagos.. i reached lagos and had a nice time over the hotel and met a girl.. but had nice time no sex ... but we kissed deep 2 or three times .. on second day i moved to abuja... after 3 day i cam back lagos.. on forth day night i met the sma egirl in the bar .. and had nice time kissed once .. but finally i had sex with this black girl... gotta massage from her.. finally she gave me oral.. with condum.. but  not sure which type condum was that.. she bought it from out side the hotel on that night. condum become tight.. and i am an uncirumised man.. so i feel some pain .. so take out condum with my bare hands. then touched end of my penis to remove forskin  and had a look on it.. then she put new one and gave a oral for around 2 mnts ...had  sucked her both nips one time i think ..then i did fingering with 2 fingers - not sure about any cuts in my hands .. her but i had sex with smae condum.. but no condum break finaly i got ejacuated  inside her vagina..but with condum .. then  washed my penis ..next day i returned to  cape town (SA)on second day i got fever .... 2 days before my colleague( who travelled with me had fever) i had pain on my lymph area in groin... on third week i had watery motion 2or 3 times a day .. it lasts for 5 day... i used to have driver .. but once he took leave i started driving by myself .. that i had pain on muscle on my legs .. throat pain after 3or four months .. on that situation i had metalic taste pleghm when i cough.. visited dr had given me 1 type of tablets and mouth wash to gargle..then i move to my home land .. india .. so i visted a private lab over here did Hiv Test at 8 months.. But doc said its ELISA .. got results after 3 hours .. did another test ..they gave me results with in half an hour .. did CARD TEST 1&2..

I just wank to know .. is card test 1 &2 is a reliable one .. will that be accurate ...so i was happy ... but once i saw an article about HIv .. my mind starts worry about that incident ... got tested again in india on my second visit exactly after 14 months (after my sexual exposure )..... did the test in another place .. but same test .. CARD Test...

got some nasty sounds from stomach whn i am on bed ..got big bumps (faty) skin in both armpits ...had red spots in eyes after 6 months of expsure .. now got few black dots in my field of vision ( is it begining of CMV Disease)  and  white creamy /cheese kind of stuff in my mouth iside cheek and getting white layer skin inside upper and lower lips .....

Can anyone tell me -

1. is Card Test 1 & 2 reliable ?
2 how accurate are thsese results ?
3. any chance for fasle Negative ...
4. Is thrush a symptom of HIV infection later stage ... ?

Should I test further ???? waitign for ur valuable comments . guys ... plz help me with your knowledge about HIV/ any other sexual diseases

I did another Test .. for removing my worry... This time i did my test in a private lab  in India..(But my sexual encounter happened in nigeria)... even i am living in cape town.. i was really worried .. becoz i was very carefull about my sexula relation .. whn i work in South africa... i did nt have any sexual encounter in South africa.. but i did my first mistake in sexula relation .. with a girl in nigeria . 2009 may...

I asked the lab person to do ELISA/WB test for me .. i gave my blood ... and  they asked me to come after 3 days .. but after 3 days i got result ... but they did some other test..
It was written as follows..

HIV1&2 by CMIA(4th Generation Test)  OBSERVED VALUE  0.14 Non reactive
Reference Range   :     = 1.00 COI Reactive

I asked them ... why not ELISA/WB.. they Said this test is good as ELISA...if we find something wrong on this test( CMIA 4th Gen) .. we will do WB

I would like to know following Details

1 . Is this Test Reliable ( I mean CMIA 4th Genrtion Test) after 1 year and 1 month of sexual  encounter?...
2. Will this CMIA Test will detect all types & sub types of HIV ( Including types in African regiona as well)
3. Becoz  i fee 2 or 3 floater/Black dots in my eyes.
4 . Should I do ELISA - or other Test .

Waiting for your valuable/experienced comments... .

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2010, 01:39:28 AM »
I'm not reading through that massive wall of text.

Did you have unprotected anal or vaginal sex?

MtD

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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2010, 01:43:49 AM »
Plz try to understand my situation ... try to help me

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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2010, 01:53:33 AM »
Plz try to understand my situation ... try to help me

I am trying to help you.

Did you have unprotected vaginal or anal sex (ie sex without a condom)?

MtD

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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2010, 07:51:28 AM »
Sam,

It's no surprise that you've tested conclusively and reliably hiv negative. Nothing you did or had done to you was a risk for hiv infection.

Getting a blowjob, with or without a condom is not a risk for hiv infection. Kissing is also not a risk. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

Protected intercourse is just that - protected against hiv. Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection.

The tests that have been used on you are reliable and you have tested far outside the window period. You do NOT have hiv.

If you feel unwell, see a doctor. It's nothing to do with hiv.

Ann
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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2010, 01:19:40 PM »
Ty very much ... Ann and Matty...

i used condum .. but given by the girl... not sure which type of condum is that .... do u have any idea about my problms which am facing now ...

got some nasty sounds from stomach whn i am on bed ..got big bumps (faty) skin in both armpits ...had red spots in eyes after 6 months of expsure .. now got few black dots in my field of vision ( is it begining of CMV Disease)  and  white creamy /cheese kind of stuff in my mouth iside cheek and getting white layer skin inside upper and lower lips .....

apart from that  i would like to know more about the following ...
I would like to know following Details

1 . Is this Test Reliable ( I mean CMIA 4th Genrtion Test) after 1 year and 1 month of sexual  encounter?...
2. Will this CMIA Test will detect all types & sub types of HIV ( Including types in African regiona as well)
3. Becoz  i fee 2 or 3 floater/Black dots in my eyes.
4 . Should I do ELISA - or other Test .


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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2010, 01:35:02 PM »
Ty very much ... Ann and Matty...

i used condum .. but given by the girl... not sure which type of condum is that .... do u have any idea about my problms which am facing now ...

got some nasty sounds from stomach whn i am on bed ..got big bumps (faty) skin in both armpits ...had red spots in eyes after 6 months of expsure .. now got few black dots in my field of vision ( is it begining of CMV Disease)  and  white creamy /cheese kind of stuff in my mouth iside cheek and getting white layer skin inside upper and lower lips .....

apart from that  i would like to know more about the following ...
I would like to know following Details

1 . Is this Test Reliable ( I mean CMIA 4th Genrtion Test) after 1 year and 1 month of sexual  encounter?...
2. Will this CMIA Test will detect all types & sub types of HIV ( Including types in African regiona as well)
3. Becoz  i fee 2 or 3 floater/Black dots in my eyes.
4 . Should I do ELISA - or other Test .


As you have already been told you do not have HIV, you didn't have a risk of contracting HIV and you don't need any further testing.

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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2010, 10:53:02 PM »
ty for your comments...

can anyone know about the following ...

1 . Is this Test Reliable ( I mean CMIA 4th Genrtion Test) after 1 year and 1 month of sexual  encounter?...
2. Will this CMIA Test will detect all types & sub types of HIV ( Including types in African regiona as well)
3. Becoz  i can see floaters  1(on right eye) or 2 floater (on left eye)/Black dots in my eyes.
4 . Should I do ELISA - or other Test .




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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2010, 10:55:40 PM »
REREAD AND COMPREHEND THE REPLIES YOU HAVE RECEIVED.

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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2010, 08:26:25 AM »
You are worrying needlessly. But you are very quickly going to find yourself getting a Time Out if you continue to return here needlessly when there has been no risk. You need to apply the information which has been given to you as you go forward.
Andy Velez

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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2010, 02:25:46 AM »
Hi all.. sorry to bother u again ... does any one know about HIV 1 &2  CMIA (4th generation test)..... that will detect (Type  M O N ..etc )all types of HIV infection ... ? becoz i did card test 1 &2 after 8 months and  CMIA 4th gen Test after 1 year... what i get is a conclusive ? should i test furter  ELISA/WB.. now i feel some floaters in my both eyes .. i gooogled all these .. but it directing towards HIV infection.. How i can identify the swallen/enlarged lymphnodes ...? any one got any idea... plz giv e ur mail id

I do have some white creamy stuff on my mouth... is it a thrush ?.. some pimples on forhead  n face....... is that related to HIv infection ...

Will CMIA 4 th gen test  can dectect all type of HIV infection groups previlaing african region ???

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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2010, 06:07:37 AM »
sam,

How many times do you have to be told that you didn't have a risk? You don't need further testing because even if you did have a risk, you've tested conclusively hiv negative.

If you feel unwell or are worried about your eyes, see a doctor and/or an ophthalmologist.

Come back with more of the same and you WILL be given that time out you've been warned about.
If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.


Please consider yourself warned!

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2010, 11:20:46 PM »
Hey ann..

i do have symptoms again ....i am not disturbing u again pl do not ignore me .. got white skin in side mouth - cheek wall and in inside  edge of lips where it come together... got few floaters... gtting pimples on face nn apart from that i do have pimples on in growth of my hair( body hair)

1. should i do re -test again ???..
2. 4th generation test after 1 year - will detect all types of HIV infection ?
3. Can that test detect HIV types in African side as well???
plz forgive my ignorance if am wrong ....

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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2010, 11:35:13 PM »
   Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Offline samalxhere

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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2010, 06:51:25 AM »
Hey ann , Rapid rod..

Thanks for your Help n valuable comments...i am not posting again ...This will be my last question

1 will CMIA test after 1 year 2 month ..will be conclusive ... Becoz some site says .. the CMIA test are so sensitive.. but It will look for p24 antigen.... in most of the cases  some ppl wont have p24 antigen ( generated by HIV virus in initial period) after 6 months in body/blood

plz forgive me if am wrong...

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Re: Possibility of getting HIV infected & Reliability of Test
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2010, 07:33:39 AM »
Sam,

Most people who have actually been infected will no longer have the p24 antigen two to three WEEKS after infection, not six months. And the window period for testing is only three months.

But all of this is irrelevant where you're concerned because you did NOT HAVE A RISK.

I'm giving you that time out you've been warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Worry about my Status..... CMIA4th GEN Test & Western Blot Test
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2010, 11:05:54 AM »
I had an exposure 15 months back with West African gurl..... after that i had few symptoms.. after 8 months i did my first test ...Dont know which one is that .. then i did 2 times a test called Card test 1 &2... aftr 12 th and  13 month....all were negative ..but my mind worery about the mistake ...i looked for symptoms .. then i decided to do ELISA test... but the Lab performed CMIA 4th Generation test..i did this test on end of 13 th month  . but my exposure was with an african gurl did my test in middle east county and in asia as well . all my test were negative ...The lab people said  CMIA 4th gen will be able to give you value ...my value was 0.14 ref range was 1 reactive.. i do have floaters and bumps in armpits and groin getting acene/puz filled pimples on face and in eye brow, forhead near my nose,legs and in begining  of my body hair..

I had sex vth a nigerian gurl . on last year may 2009..I used condums .. after that i tested ..in private clinic .. dont know which test they conducted .. said NEGtve then i did another Test after 12 months ...It was CMIA 4th Generation test for 1& 2.. said value 0.14..negative .. if its >=1 reactive  and if its <1 non reactive ... but i had  2 black moveing dots in left eye and one black moving dots in right eye...i think its floaters n white cheese kinda stuff in my mouth in  the morning whn i wake up.... is it Thrush .. or becoz of open mouth sleeping .. becoz of my worry i did Western Blot test ...got results like this

HIV 1-gp 160(ENV) - negative
HIV 1-gp 120(ENV) negative
HIV 1-P 66 (POL) negative
HIV 1-P55(GAG) Negative
HIV 1-P -51(POL) negative
HIV 1-gp 41 ENV negative
HIV 1-p 39 GAG negtive
HIV 1 -p31 POL negative
HIV -P24 GAG negative
HIV 1 -P 17 GAG Negative

HIV - 2 Negative


it sounds that HIV 1 full negative


Now i worry about HIV 2  .. becoz cant see details about that on test report

Becoz i had sex with Nigerian gurl ..i think there HIV2 is more ...

should i re test again ?

plz need ur assistance

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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2010, 12:27:39 PM »
Sam,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

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We've repeatedly told you that you did not have a risk for hiv infection. You don't need to worry about hiv2 because you weren't at risk for that either. In fact, it is even more difficult to transmit hiv2 than hiv1.

You did not have a risk. You do not need further testing.

If you persist on using this forum to question your no risk incidents and your conclusive negative results, you'll quickly be given a second time out and it will last for 56 days.

PLEASE CONSIDER YOURSELF WARNED FOR THE LAST TIME!

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Re: Worry about my Status..... CMIA4th GEN Test & Western Blot Test
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2011, 01:01:14 AM »
Hi all


i had exposure 22 months before - it was with an african girl .. got tested after 8 ,14,15,16 ,18 months like dont know what test was done in first .. then i  did MEIA, CMIA , card test( i think  card  test is rapid test) ,  second time did CMIA 4th generation test after 1 year .. then had MEIA + p24 after 1.5 yrs .. had WB .. all negative .. but i do have some symptoms like black spots , white cream kind stuff in mouth whn i wake up... and flotaers ..

I would like to know from you guy that.. are those results conclusive ?

all those test would pick up  - stain of HIV group O as well ??

Should i test gain for Group O .. becoz Group O can be found in Africa ?

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Re: Worry about my Status..... CMIA4th GEN Test & Western Blot Test
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2011, 01:07:30 AM »
■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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Re: Worry about my Status..... CMIA4th GEN Test & Western Blot Test
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2011, 01:08:07 AM »
Hi all


i had exposure 22 months before - it was with an african girl .. got tested after 8 ,14,15,16 ,18 months like dont know what test was done in first .. then i  did MEIA, CMIA , card test( i think  card  test is rapid test) ,  second time did CMIA 4th generation test after 1 year .. then had MEIA + p24 after 1.5 yrs .. had WB .. all negative .. but i do have some symptoms like black spots , white cream kind stuff in mouth whn i wake up... and flotaers ..

I would like to know from you guy that.. are those results conclusive ?

all those test would pick up  - stain of HIV group O as well ??

Should i test gain for Group O .. becoz Group O can be found in Africa ?

You do not have HIV. I do not know how we can explain this any more simply. You were not at risk and your test results are conclusive.

You do not have HIV.

In light of your continuing inability or refusal to accept this and to observe our posting guidelines (including starting multiple threads), I have no other option than to refer your latest posts to our Moderators for review.

MtD

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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2011, 06:05:39 AM »
Sam,

You do not have hiv.

I'm giving you that second time out you've been warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

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