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Insertive Oral + Symptoms
« on: May 01, 2015, 04:05:12 PM »
Hi everyone. Having spent the last 3 days religiously reading through the posts I would like to air a concern which I believe may have not been raised yet.

6 days ago I had an encounter with 2 SW in eastern europe and had stupidly unprotected insertive oral, and once, very briefly protected vaginal intercourse. One of the SWs had somewhat bad teeth, which didn't prevent me from allowing her to perform unprotected oral. Nothing seemed worrisome - I didn't see any blood anywhere nor on my penis. There are no cuts on my penis whatsoever.

I felt morally sick after that and on day 5 (yesterday) I went to a clinic for a DNA urine test for the typical STDs (chlam, gonn etc.) I wasn't too concerned about HIV because of the extremely low probability. I am still waiting for the result but as a prophylactic measure I was prescribed a cocktail of antibiotics which I took in earnest - as perscribed all on one day.

Today - 24 hours after my antibiotic course I am experiencing mild fever, tiredness and swelling in my jaw and groin lymph nodes, which is starting to give me some serious cause for concern. Additionally I had dizziness, tingling in my arms and extreme anxiety which had me end up at ER, where I got CBC done which I was told was impeccable but did nothing to allay my concerns. They also didn't think it was an allergic reaction to antibiotics, but it took place in eastern europe, so I am not sure how credible their assessment can be.

My questions are:

 - was my unprotected oral exposure with the SW with poor dental hygiene cause for concern?
- are my symptoms somewhat plausible for an HIV infection? I still can't rule out adverse antibiotic reaction - I haven't taken antibiotics for at least 20 years.
- i have scheduled a 10 day post contact test on my return, to hopefully put my mind at ease - it PCR but it would kill me if it were false positive

Thank you in advance :(

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Re: Insertive Oral + Symptoms
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2015, 05:03:02 PM »
Oral sex is not a risk for infection.  HIV is a very fragile virus.  Its outer surface becomes damaged, immediately when leaving the host; where changes in temperature, pH and moisture levels, alter the HIV outer surface, rendering it unable to infect.  The mouth is another barrier, as it protects us from pathogens that we encounter daily and it contains over a dozen proteins and enzymes that alter the HIV leaving it unable to infect.

There have been no fewer than three separate serodiscordant couples studies (where one person is HIV positive, the other negative.) These couples were tracked for three. five and ten years. The couples used condoms for penetrative vaginal and anal sex, but NO BARRIER at all for oral sex. Any kind of oral sex.

These studies yielded NO infections.

You did not have a risk and you do not need to test over this incident.  You cannot go by symptoms to determine your status, as only testing will do that for you.  If you have not had an HIV test, now is a good time to start.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to HIV testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start.  As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine HIV tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than HIV.  Some of the other STDs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid HIV infection. It really is that simple!

Joe

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Re: Insertive Oral + Symptoms
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2015, 11:05:14 PM »
Thank you Joe - I will perform a full set of tests for other STDs and check with my physician about antibiotic adverse effects. Would a 10 day post contact PCR be a good way of determining possible HIV infection?

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Re: Insertive Oral + Symptoms
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2015, 11:53:02 PM »
You don't need a PCR as you never had a risk.  If you want to test, for your own piece of mind, then a regular HIV test will do just fine.  No use wasting money on tests you do not need.

Joe

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Re: Insertive Oral + Symptoms
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2015, 07:21:39 AM »
If my other STD tests come positive as a result of this contact, wouldn't that translate into a greater likelihood of being HIV+? I saw on numerous websites talk of there being hightened risk if either party had an accompanying STD. I am 100% positive I didn't have one on the day?

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Re: Insertive Oral + Symptoms
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2015, 11:51:44 AM »
If my other STD tests come positive as a result of this contact, wouldn't that translate into a greater likelihood of being HIV+? I saw on numerous websites talk of there being hightened risk if either party had an accompanying STD. I am 100% positive I didn't have one on the day?

The presence of an STD would have no effect on any risk, as oral sex is NOT a risk for infection.

Joe

 


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