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Author Topic: VA Hospital and HIV  (Read 1267 times)

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Offline OneTampa

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Offline Hellraiser

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Re: VA Hospital and HIV
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2010, 07:44:03 PM »
Story here:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/30/va.hospital.hiv/index.html?fbid=7Bu8P5B0Yxa


"Dr. Gina Michael, the association chief of staff at the hospital, told the affiliate that some dental technicians broke protocol by handwashing tools before putting them in cleaning machines.

The instruments were supposed to only be put in the cleaning machines, Michael said."



I don't see how the extra washing puts anyone at risk of contracting anything.  Anyone have any clarification on this?

Offline RapidRod

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Re: VA Hospital and HIV
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2010, 07:48:38 PM »
"Dr. Gina Michael, the association chief of staff at the hospital, told the affiliate that some dental technicians broke protocol by handwashing tools before putting them in cleaning machines.

The instruments were supposed to only be put in the cleaning machines, Michael said."



I don't see how the extra washing puts anyone at risk of contracting anything.  Anyone have any clarification on this?
It doesn't.

Offline tednlou2

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Re: VA Hospital and HIV
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2010, 01:42:05 AM »
Wasn't there a recent story about the VA not cleaning colonoscopy tools before using them on other patients and some people did contract Hep or HIV????  Or, did no one come up poz?  I may have some of the details wrong.  Wasn't there also a hospital in Vegas that exposed people to Hep and HIV by reusing equipment?   

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Re: VA Hospital and HIV
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2010, 11:10:09 AM »
Wasn't there a recent story about the VA not cleaning colonoscopy tools before using them on other patients and some people did contract Hep or HIV????  Or, did no one come up poz?  I may have some of the details wrong.  Wasn't there also a hospital in Vegas that exposed people to Hep and HIV by reusing equipment?   

  YES THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IN LAS VEGAS ,NEVADA GAVE OUT AIDS WITH FLU SHOTS !
  MORE THAN 50,000  PEOPLE WERE CONTACTED !
  THE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY FOUND OUT THEY HAD AIDS WERE NOT CONTACTED !
 
 ( Something about the people with confirmed AIDS could NOT PROPERLY ACCUSE  the
  Las Vegas Health Dept. ) Even thou some of us already knew the minute that storey
  hit the news waves that a lot of the mystery was over  ::)

   This really pisses me off big time  :(

   I USE THE SAINT LOUIS V.A.  :o

   Is this like going from the pit into the fire ?

                                                   Carl

  P.S.  I hope EVERYONE INVOLVED IS FIRED !
         If you are LAZY please find a job at a car wash or maybe a garbage company .
          DON'T MESS WITH PEOPLES LIVES !

   
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Re: VA Hospital and HIV
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2010, 05:19:40 PM »
  P.S.  I hope EVERYONE INVOLVED IS FIRED !
         If you are LAZY please find a job at a car wash or maybe a garbage company .
          DON'T MESS WITH PEOPLES LIVES !

They weren't being lazy though.  In fact they were doing extra work by washing the instruments more than once.  I'm really not sure how this constitutes a risk of transmission, thus my earlier post.

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: VA Hospital and HIV
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2010, 07:35:36 PM »
 ???

So someone correct me if I am wrong.  They handwashed the dental tools first, then they followed up by placing the handwashed tools into ( I presume ) an Autoclave.

How would this put any one at risk. I do understand that this is not proper procedure though.


It seems to me, the those that could possibly be at risk, were the ones that were handwashing the dirty tools, especially if they were handling the tools without gloves. 


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Re: VA Hospital and HIV
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2010, 12:40:27 AM »
And no matter what, there was no risk for hiv infection. Hep C maybe, but definitely no hiv. Stupid idiots; all these years of this pandemic and they still can't get their heads around the fact that you don't get hiv in this sort of way. Pisses me off no end, and it should piss the rest of you lot off too. It's a no-fucking-brainer if you know the science of hiv transmission.
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Offline weasel

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Re: VA Hospital and HIV
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2010, 09:09:18 PM »
And no matter what, there was no risk for hiv infection. Hep C maybe, but definitely no hiv. Stupid idiots; all these years of this pandemic and they still can't get their heads around the fact that you don't get hiv in this sort of way. Pisses me off no end, and it should piss the rest of you lot off too. It's a no-fucking-brainer if you know the science of hiv transmission.

  Ann , Are you saying reusing needles will not pass on HIV ?
           I am pretty sure that it has been shown  it does !
           Most large cities give out free NEW  needles to drug users !

           And certainly the way they shuffle people threw  flu clinics it MAY happen .

           The same goes for Dentests that have been prosecuted and jailed for GIVING  HIV to people ! ,
          just to be hateful because they were infected !

          I say  " trust no one "   

                                                Just MY thoughts ,
                                                                            Carl
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