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Offline Hellraiser

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Doctor's Visit, say what?
« on: June 28, 2010, 02:31:55 PM »
So, I went to the Doctor today and had some interesting news.

First off, despite restricting my calories and working out like a mad man I seem to have gained weight which of course does not bode well.  The doctor said it might be the meds, but he wanted to wait 3 more months and see how it was going then before he thought about prescribing anything to potentially help.  He mentioned insulin-like HGH but said use of it was associated with the development of diabetes, so I'm going to do some research on that before I even consider it.

He's also going to check my free testosterone next week and see where it's at.

My CD4 coming up slowly is something we discussed in detail.  He mentioned potentially pulling me off of truvada in order to perhaps stimulate some CD4 growth and I believe the regimen he mentioned was Epivir + Selzentry.  Considering I just got undetectable this is not exactly something I really want to screw around with just yet.  If my CD4 is being affected by it what choice do I have though?

Anyway if anyone has any experience with IL-HGH or Selzentry + Epivir (or any other combo lacking truvada) please feel free to chime in.

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2010, 03:17:04 PM »
And exactly how much weight gain are we referencing?
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2010, 03:21:27 PM »
I was going to ask the same thing regarding the weight gain --- is it putting you seriously overweight?  I have noticed that I have gained a lot in my stomach area since starting meds, but still at a good weight for my height - just need to try to distibute it better....

Fill us in Trey   :)
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Labs:
Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2010, 03:25:55 PM »
Hi, I did too gain about 8 kilos since I started med a year ago, and this with 4 times a week 90 minutes work out and watch carefully what I eat.
I did stop smoking too, that may be the reason why.
But I noticed that I gained fat around the belt (trousers easy tell) ...
If anyone has tip how to get rid of this, I'd be very happy.

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Feb   2009 CD4 358 VL 2000 16%
May  2009 CD4 305 VL 3069  14% <---- Started TVD+ATZ/r
Jul  2009 CD4 512 VL <50   18%
Jul 2010 CD4 418 VL <50 24%                     
Switched to Kivexa (Epzicom) + Norvir + Reyataz (due to sleep problem)
Aug 2010 CD4 606 VL <50 25%
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Switched to Kivexa (Epzicom) + Viramune XR (due to kidney problems)
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October 2012 CD4 684 UD 29%
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2010, 03:29:41 PM »
Yeah ad2san - the trouser/waist/stomach area is where mine is -- for now the solution I have come up with is a) to buy bigger boxers and b) to go up a bit on dress pant size - from a 32 to 34.... If it keeps expanding after that, then I will look at other options, but for now, I could use to gain a couple of inches (and I am 43, so I have to keep that in the equation as well --- my waist size has been a 32 since I was 23 years old - so I held on pretty long).
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Labs:
Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2010, 03:32:44 PM »
Trey have you "blowed up" that much? i dont understand why he would mention HGH as an aid, especailly with the Diabetes risk.

and yes, Ive gotten a little rotund in the middle....although im still fitting into my 30w ok, I notice them becoming just a tad tight.

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2010, 03:38:06 PM »
Belly arrived here, too, and never had one?!  WTF - I thought these "modern" medicines were so supposed to be so neutral...   :o  Hardeeharhar.
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2010, 03:56:42 PM »
So he mentioned Selzentry along with Epivir?  This is only two drugs, do you think he means Epzicom?

There was a study that reported better CD4 recovery after 48 weeks on Selzentry. Going on that drug requires the tropism test to make sure the virus is CCR5-tropic.

My belly has also grown a bit and I've gained some weight but not a huge amount. I am exercising less and eating a bit more so it's hard to pinpoint it on the meds. I guess if I pick up my previous levels of food intake and exercise and still don't lose it then I can blame it on the meds. It seems to be subcutaneous fat and not visceral fat but is there any way to tell for sure?

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2010, 04:02:04 PM »
It seems to be subcutaneous fat and not visceral fat but is there any way to tell for sure?


Well, er yeah -- are you able to pinch a couple inches of your whale blubber?  If it's all below the surface your body will be more like a barrel instead of an inflated intertube.
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 04:03:03 PM »

and yes, Ive gotten a little rotund in the middle....although im still fitting into my 30w ok, I notice them becoming just a tad tight.

-will

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 04:06:12 PM »
@ Miss P --- ROFLMAO ;D
I am able to pinch mine - and it is soft fat  YEAH, GO ME, I have inner tube fat and not barrel -- so, I'm thinking that should be easier to get rid of..... God forbid I have to switch to Corona Light... Ughhh.  >:(
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Labs:
Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2010, 04:09:28 PM »
I should throw together a nude podcast for the forum to exhibit exactly what the various body shape changes are all about.  Would you like me to do this hairy or shaved?
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2010, 04:19:06 PM »
Hairy, but well lit!  ::)
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2010, 04:22:13 PM »
That depends where the hair is, amount of it, etc.  as it could skew the perception of depth in regards to fat distribution....   ;)
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Labs:
Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2010, 04:26:02 PM »
Well, er yeah -- are you able to pinch a couple inches of your whale blubber?  If it's all below the surface your body will be more like a barrel instead of an inflated intertube.

Yeah, but just because I have some subcutaneous fat can't there also be some visceral fat? There must be some sort of test that is able to determine if there's visceral fat (in addition to whatever subcutaneous fat one is able to pinch).


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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2010, 05:11:47 PM »
Mr Hell-in-a-Handbasket, have you considered that as you're working out a lot, some of it might be muscle gain? Muscle is heavier than fat.

When I was a fisherbitchman, I was all muscle and weighed around 160 - but I looked trim. Now that I don't use my muscles anywhere near to the extent I did when I was at the fishing, I weigh a lot less but have a belly. My honest friends say that my ass has grown as well. :-\
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2010, 05:27:52 PM »
I should throw together a nude podcast for the forum to exhibit exactly what the various body shape changes are all about.  Would you like me to do this hairy or shaved?

You can shave your own back?

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2010, 05:33:32 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2010, 05:41:22 PM »
Of course


With trembling hands I managed to click on the link . I have always thought of you as very handsome in my minds  eye but I'm not fond of back hair pics . I use my electric razor for the few strays on mine .

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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2010, 05:44:17 PM »

With trembling hands I managed to click on the link . I have always thought of you as very handsome in my minds  eye but I'm not fond of back hair pics . I use my electric razor for the few strays on mine .

I have my Indonesian house boy Po remove mine with gold tipped tweezers.

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2010, 05:46:15 PM »
I think your doc is weird
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2010, 05:46:49 PM »
I think your doc is weird

Who shaves your back, noot?

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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2010, 05:48:28 PM »
It is like alabaster on a Roman statue, along with the musculature, so no-one
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2010, 05:49:22 PM »
It is like alabaster on a Roman statue, along with the musculature, so no-one

Sweet. :)

Mine looks like a relief map of the Hindu Kush.

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« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2010, 05:58:39 PM »
Quote
Mine looks like a relief map of the Hindu Kush.

I'll bring the sit-on petrol mower then
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« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2010, 06:01:35 PM »
It may have been Epzicom and not Epivir.  My memory is heavily reliant on phonics so the fact that the two sound so similar may have been me filling in after the "Ep-".  We were doing a lot of talking.  I also forgot to mention my bad cholesterol was 119 which he said was pretty high but not high enough to be alarmed just yet.  My normally decent BP of 120/77 was 135/97 because as I mentioned in another thread I was stressing hardcore.

As for the IL-HGH it will be re-evaluated after my results next visit.  I'm going to keep up my exercise and diet as it's currently going and if I'm still not losing weight or worse gaining it then that might be something to consider.  I have all this time to research so I'm going to make use of it (and you guys).  I was 245# at my heaviest, but I've usually been around 185-190# when I was hospitalized I was 162#.  I'm currently 205# and despite eating 1200-1800 calories a day and expending roughly 300-500 calories via cardio on a mostly daily basis I haven't been able to move my weight down again which is concerning to me.  This might be because I'm approaching thirty.  I'm not usually one to blame the meds or the disease for everything, but I'm beginning to wonder, especially considering this weight is being put straight onto my belly.   My limbs are still the same size as a year ago.  Anyway I have plenty of time to mull this and I'm glad you all are weighing in (no pun intended).

The med change will also be re-evaluated when I get my new CD4 results back in 3 months.  I like Atripla, but I don't want to be stuck at <100 CD4 forevermore.

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« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2010, 06:02:59 PM »
I'll bring the sit-on petrol mower then

I've got one you can use. :)


I'll have Po give it a service.

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« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2010, 06:05:54 PM »

He's also going to check my free testosterone next week and see where it's at.


You have free testosterone? Can I have some?

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« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2010, 06:07:01 PM »
You have free testosterone? Can I have some?

Ann
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Apparently there are two ways to check testosterone and the "free" version requires you to be fasting.  I had coffee with some sugar in it this morning so I wasn't fasting.

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« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2010, 06:10:24 PM »
Apparently there are two ways to check testosterone and the "free" version requires you to be fasting.  I had coffee with some sugar in it this morning so I wasn't fasting.

I know. I was teasing.
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« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2010, 06:12:12 PM »
I know. I was teasing.

Sorry, long day so I'm mister serious.  If it makes you feel any better you can have any of my extra testosterone if I have spare.  Although didn't you mention you've already sweated your balls off?  Don't be greedy now.

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« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2010, 06:13:36 PM »
Apparently there are two ways to check testosterone and the "free" version requires you to be fasting.  I had coffee with some sugar in it this morning so I wasn't fasting.


I bet Miss P can check it for you using the swish and spit method .  

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« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2010, 06:22:07 PM »
Well I agree <100 CD4s is not so good. You could get off the NNRTI combo and go on a PI or an integrase inhibitor based combo. This might buy you +50 CD4s or more.

This said, the CD4 gain game is a long one and tends to go in a pattern of slow incremental rise and sudden jumps, if it happens.

You could go veggie (or like me freetarian, ie not cook meat at home) it does wonders for weight and cholesterol

15-20 lbs over your average ain't really bad. HIV screws your fat metabolism and this may be a post-treatment normalisation. Ask yourself, what shape were/are your relatives at your age?

The key to burning fat with cardio is long, slow exercise, like 40+ minutes just over walking pace running, not hard and fast, perhaps speaking to a personal trainer would help here.

The HGH suggestion, I don't like, it's down sides tend to be more than the ups, and the effect is short term. Testosterone shot, that's a no-brainer :-)

Has your doc looked seriously at insulin resistance?

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« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2010, 06:27:50 PM »
Has your doc looked seriously at insulin resistance?

The regimen changes were kind of brief, he made some suggestions, but said that he'd prefer to wait another 3 months to see if my CD4 stayed the same rather than change a working combo.

As for the insulin resistance Idon't know what that is.  He made the comment about IL-HGH basically almost as he was leaving the room, once again preferring to give it another 3 months before having an involved conversation about it.  This is the first time I've raised these concerns with him because previously I was attempting to gain weight as getting down to 162 had scared me.  Now that I'm putting a lot of effort into diet and exercise and not seeing any results I'm a little worried and perplexed.  I know how the equation works I've normally been able to manipulate my weight pretty easily if I put in the time.  This is like beating my head against a wall.  If this weight is where I will be staying I willl be seriously unhappy.

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« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2010, 06:45:42 PM »

I bet Miss P can check it for you using the swish and spit method . 

Actually I thought he said "fisting" instead of "fasting" -- makes more sense frankly, at least to me.
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« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2010, 06:46:27 PM »
Anyway if anyone has any experience with IL-HGH or Selzentry + Epivir (or any other combo lacking truvada) please feel free to chime in.

Isn't epivir an old med?  Selzentry is a EI (Entry Inhibitor) ... 1 in the morning, 1 at night...  I believe dosage is 200mg, but don't quote me on that. it should work very well but only if you have a R5 (CCR5) tropic virus.  Requires a tropism test that *MUST* be done.  Failure to do this test could result in tipping your virus to (X4) CCRX4 if you have a dual tropic virus.    R5 and X4 refer to receptors on the cells that HIV uses to gain entry.  They don't really know what CCR5 receptors are used for... so do your due diligence and make sure you are comfortable.

There is another approved EI but it's requires nasty injections and is tedious to mix.  Vicriviroc was in study but appears to be languishing.  Similar to selzentry (mariviroc) but was a 30mg once daily, boosted by 200mg of Norvir which has a 5x boost.

I don't understand why he isn't pairing Selzentry with a modern PI like Isentress that has few side effects....  Epivir is a Nuke.... and if you are going to go with a 2 drug cocktail why not a PI + EI.  Anyhow, just things to ask about.
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2010, 06:50:23 PM »

15-20 lbs over your average ain't really bad. HIV screws your fat metabolism and this may be a post-treatment normalisation. Ask yourself, what shape were/are your relatives at your age?

Better yet, La Mademoiselle of Natchez should ask himself what is weight was before his undiagnosed opportunistic infection better known as HIV wasting, before he found out about his infection.  I recall him saying he was a porker.  Sounds more like to me that the rubber band has bounced back.
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« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2010, 06:51:13 PM »
I know. I was teasing.

Hey if you want some free stuff I've got some free weight (fat) you can have.... whatcha say I send you about .... um... 15 pounds?  Maybe if I send it to you in the UK it wont' find it's way back.  I've been trying to lose it for a while.


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« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2010, 06:55:59 PM »
As for the insulin resistance Idon't know what that is. 

Insulin resistance is where your body becomes resistant to insulin.  It basically means that you can't metabolize sugar and thus become diabetic.  I'm willing to be it's related to weight. 

Now, love you darling, so don't take this the wrong way....... but....... have you looked hard at your diet?

Weight Gain or Loss is a function of Calories - Exercise = Gain or (Loss).

So if you are taking in 1800 calories a day and still maintaining or gaining weight you need to revisit either exercise or diet.

I have the same problem, but instead of insulin, my liver is pitching a fit and getting fat too!  You can live without your pancreas..... not so with your liver...  Yes it's stressful... and btw stress causes weightloss too!.

My first enemy was soda.  I drank way too much of it... so switching to water and kool-aid (no laughing Ms. P) helps cut down on the calorie intake with Soda.  That switch has allowed me to gradually trim calories from my diet and I'm losing 2 to 4 pounds per month which in my opinion is quick.  I'd be happy with a couple pounds a month tops.... the idea is gradual, sustainable weight loss, not yo-yo moves that freak your body out and make it think you are starving or crazy diets like Atkins that piss off your kidneys.
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« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2010, 06:57:25 PM »
Actually I thought he said "fisting" instead of "fasting" -- makes more sense frankly, at least to me.
ROFL... yes I think Fisting might cause some weight loss too....  and I'd say your bloodwork would be quite odd if you were fisting before the doc got to you.  Bet the digital exam would be easy.  You could upgrade to the 5 digit exam.   LOL ROFL.
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« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2010, 07:01:08 PM »
I recall him saying he was a porker.  Sounds more like to me that the rubber band has bounced back.

Just because someone can't get into a size 4 bikini does not make them a porker darling.  And it's not fat if you have a 34 waist....   You know you are fat when you wear black to Sea World and children ask you to sign their Stuffed Animal as "with Love, Shamu."  Just like you know you are old when the 20 something at the restaurant calls you Sir or Maam and you realize you *are* old enough to be their parent.
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2010, 07:04:33 PM »
245# top weight for me only once in my life and only for about a year
162# bottom weight for me and only once for about 9 months
205# current weight
185-190# normal weight for most of my life

Said this earlier, but anyway I'm right now a good solid 15-20 over my average and I'm very conscious of everything I eat and how much cardio I'm doing, thus my concern about not seeing any movement.

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« Reply #43 on: June 28, 2010, 07:04:53 PM »
Better yet, La Mademoiselle of Natchez should ask himself what is weight was before his undiagnosed opportunistic infection better known as HIV wasting, before he found out about his infection.  I recall him saying he was a porker.  Sounds more like to me that the rubber band has bounced back.

I think Ms. HairyPhilicia is on to something, if you were 245 prior to hiv and then went down to 165 qnd are now regaining then you really are on track to be were you were pre-Hiv.

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« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2010, 07:11:05 PM »
Jebus, 205 lbs -- only Matty is like that!?  How tall are you?  Methinks you may need the special Miss Tina diet for a week followed with intentional food poisoning.

I guess it should go without saying that you've not gotten laid in ages.
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« Reply #45 on: June 28, 2010, 07:12:06 PM »
245? Feh, I say!

Matty the Damned tips his long suffering scales at 117 kgs or 254 lbs for those of you who still use weights and measures from the middle ages.

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« Reply #46 on: June 28, 2010, 07:16:04 PM »
245? Feh, I say!

Matty the Damned tips his long suffering scales at 117 kgs or 254 lbs for those of you who still use weights and measures from the middle ages.

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GASP! Matty, i pictured you weighing in at a sparse 140 drippin wet.

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« Reply #47 on: June 28, 2010, 07:18:46 PM »
I'm 5'11" and I got laid Sunday night.

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« Reply #48 on: June 28, 2010, 07:19:33 PM »
When I was your age and gained 20 lbs suddenly my thyroid was checked and found to be the problem  .

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« Reply #49 on: June 28, 2010, 07:20:31 PM »
I'm 5'11" and I got laid Sunday night.

Interesting, maybe I should gain some weight, I'm 154 and havent been laid in quite awhile. :(
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« Reply #50 on: June 28, 2010, 07:27:59 PM »
GASP! Matty, i pictured you weighing in at a sparse 140 drippin wet.



I am a behemoth. I stand 6'4" in my bare hooves. :)

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« Reply #51 on: June 28, 2010, 07:29:11 PM »
I am a behemoth. I stand 6'4" in my bare hooves. :)

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« Reply #52 on: June 28, 2010, 07:30:32 PM »
...nice

You can't be as much of a jerk as I am if you don't have the mass to back it up.

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« Reply #53 on: June 28, 2010, 07:31:34 PM »
Interesting, maybe I should gain some weight, I'm 154 and havent been laid in quite awhile. :(

Hell, I'm 205 and I got laid Saturday afternoon......   Maybe you SHOULD eat more  ;)

Trey -- perhaps you shouldn't stress too much over this -- see what happens in the coming weeks -- monitor your weight and see if it's moving up, down or staying the same.

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« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2010, 07:38:08 PM »
Trey,

You might also consider if you lost muscle mass, during your weight loss and are now regaining it. Muscle weighs more than fat and since you are exercising, some of the gain may be muscle, which would be good. Given your height, I think over 200 is probably not good for you, as my weight range limit is 205 and I am 6' 1" tall. Just be grateful that you don't have visceral fat, or you would look like me: a barrel, wearing an inner tube.

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« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2010, 07:41:54 PM »
sorry to butt in ,
 but what the f*** does Anne want testosterone for??????????

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« Reply #56 on: June 28, 2010, 07:50:31 PM »
I'm 5'11" and I got laid Sunday night.

DID YOU DISCLOSE??????????

Also, please disclose the weight/height of your low rent trick.
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« Reply #57 on: June 28, 2010, 07:58:06 PM »
Jebus, 205 lbs -- only Matty is like that!?  How tall are you?  Methinks you may need the special Miss Tina diet for a week followed with intentional food poisoning.

I guess it should go without saying that you've not gotten laid in ages.

Look princess. some of the rest of us are 205 and 5'11"...... :)

Food poisoning is pretty rough.... and Tina is a bitch... even more than you.  Love ya.
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« Reply #58 on: June 28, 2010, 07:59:42 PM »
I'm 5'11" and I got laid Sunday night.
Go boy!  Ain't nothing wrong with getting laid.  :)
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« Reply #59 on: June 28, 2010, 08:03:44 PM »
When I was your age and gained 20 lbs suddenly my thyroid was checked and found to be the problem  .

My sister has thyroid issues and I'm a little bit concerned this might be it.  She has to take an injection before every meal I believe.

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« Reply #60 on: June 28, 2010, 08:04:03 PM »
suddenly i think i need to put a lot of weight on ;D*

And i was panicking when they informed me a while ago that i had gone up to 68 Kg ( 149 lbs for the un-innitiated)

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« Reply #61 on: June 28, 2010, 08:05:44 PM »
Trey if it'll put your mind at rest, have a chat with your Doc and get it checked, but as Anne said, with working out like cray it might just be muscle

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« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2010, 08:08:12 PM »
DID YOU DISCLOSE??????????

Also, please disclose the weight/height of your low rent trick.

Of course I disclosed, I always do, he was poz anyway so it went over well.  He's I dunno 6'1" and had a hot linebacker build, I don't like skinny boys.

I'd like to thank everyone who's responding to this thread jokingly or in all seriousness.

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« Reply #63 on: June 28, 2010, 08:12:09 PM »
Look princess. some of the rest of us are 205 and 5'11"...... :)

Food poisoning is pretty rough.... and Tina is a bitch... even more than you.  Love ya.

Dearest, Miss P is also 5'11" and at 180 lbs. she knows full well that she's 10 lbs. overweight, so if you other heifers are over 200 you need to buy burqas.
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« Reply #64 on: June 28, 2010, 08:15:52 PM »
Dearest, Miss P is also 5'11" and at 180 lbs. she knows full well that she's 10 lbs. overweight, so if you other heifers are over 200 you need to buy burqas.

Hot I'll hold her skinny ass down, you perform the beating.

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« Reply #65 on: June 28, 2010, 08:32:28 PM »
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« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2010, 08:33:44 PM »
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« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2010, 08:40:44 PM »
goodness! :o

suddenly i think i need to put a lot of weight on ;D*
at 5'10", I was concerned about the "extra" 10lbs I have put on since moving to SC.
that weight has taken me up from the 135lbs that I've been since I graduated in 1980 to 145lbs now.

needless to say after this thread I am no longer concerned about my svelte physic ;D
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« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2010, 08:47:03 PM »
Yeah i guess i'm lucky,
I seem to remeber my mother telling me she would give anything to swap,
( response was no way and it's your fault for having 4 kids, stepfather falls over laughing)

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« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2010, 09:06:30 PM »
Trey,

After reading this string I would only add one suggestion and of course put in my two cents. 

Suggestion:  Try the low carb diet where you only allow intake of carbohydrates during one hour each day.  NEVER put your body in a state of ketosis.  Its hard on the kidneys.  If you only eat the 'goodies' during that one hour, insulin is not produced as frequently and the extra weight should drop off without too much of a problem.  Also, knowing that you can have your treat say between 5 an 6 PM each day keeps you from having to totally do without.  This seems to work for men more than women (thanks to Mother Nature).  Dont stop the exercise.. and keep having fun on Sundays (that helps too).

My two cents:  OMG - you're almost 30!  YOU OLD FART!  You should have over a decade before you need to consider age as a factor in this dilemma.  Take it from a genuine 'old fart', my early 40s were more energetic and belly fat free than any other part of my life.  I was a fat kid, (found ice cream sandwiches in 1967 and became addicted), and chubby even in college.  Give it a try.. 

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« Reply #70 on: June 28, 2010, 09:06:59 PM »
TREV not Trey... sorry buddy.  my bad

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« Reply #71 on: June 28, 2010, 09:08:35 PM »
Hey if you want some free stuff I've got some free weight (fat) you can have.... whatcha say I send you about .... um... 15 pounds?  Maybe if I send it to you in the UK it wont' find it's way back.  I've been trying to lose it for a while.


ROFL.

No thanks, I've got about ten extra of my own I'm trying to get rid of. ~sigh~

Just like you know you are old when the 20 something at the restaurant calls you Sir or Maam and you realize you *are* old enough to be their parent.

Or when your doctor looks younger than your daughter.

sorry to butt in ,
 but what the f*** does Anne want testosterone for?
?????????

Women also produce testosterone, only in smaller amounts. When given to women in small supplemental doses, it can increase sex drive.

Men also produce estrogen and other female hormones, in smaller amounts than we do.

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« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2010, 09:09:10 PM »
TREV not Trey... sorry buddy.  my bad

No, it's Trey.

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« Reply #73 on: June 28, 2010, 09:15:36 PM »
I never could get names right..... this 'old fart' is all confused.      ???

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« Reply #74 on: June 28, 2010, 09:16:25 PM »
Women also produce testosterone, only in smaller amounts. When given to women in small supplemental doses, it can increase sex drive.

Men also produce estrogen and other female hormones, in smaller amounts than we do.



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Sister is born and when taking your first look at this lovely new bundle of life all you can think of is "OMG I'm old enough to be her dad!!!"

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« Reply #75 on: June 28, 2010, 09:17:30 PM »
sorry :-[ it's hope for a cure and not hot puppy

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« Reply #76 on: June 28, 2010, 09:18:42 PM »
You got that right!

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« Reply #77 on: June 28, 2010, 09:21:11 PM »
it's hope for a cure and not hot puppy

Suddenly the dementia is running amok in this thread.

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« Reply #78 on: June 28, 2010, 09:23:30 PM »
I've got an excuse lol,

the lord in his infinite wisdom forgot to connect my brain, (that and the wine isn't helping)

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« Reply #79 on: June 29, 2010, 12:52:56 AM »
From your profile pic, I pictured you as someone really skinny.  My weight around 18-21 y.o. was around 170 pounds.  Then, it was around 190 for many years.  My highest weight was 231.  I think I weigh about 205 myself.  I know when I got around 30, my metabolism seemed to slow big time.  I couldn't eat whatever I wanted anymore. 

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« Reply #80 on: June 29, 2010, 01:57:47 PM »
I like Atripla.

So do I and mine won't go up either.
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24/09/10 UD 283 22%
01/12/10 UD 319 23%
11/03/11 UD 293 28%
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« Reply #81 on: June 29, 2010, 06:19:17 PM »
Oh as a footnote my percentage is 8% so, I'm guessing that's probably an improvement over whatever I was sitting at a year ago.  I didn't bother to ask what it was back then.

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« Reply #82 on: June 29, 2010, 07:17:25 PM »
Oh as a footnote my percentage is 8% so, I'm guessing that's probably an improvement over whatever I was sitting at a year ago.  I didn't bother to ask what it was back then.

I'm assuming you're still on your Prophylaxis treatment also?

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2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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« Reply #83 on: June 29, 2010, 08:49:41 PM »
I'm assuming you're still on your Prophylaxis treatment also?

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Do daily malt shakes count?
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« Reply #84 on: June 29, 2010, 08:58:13 PM »
Do daily malt shakes count?

Ok, who made you the "Fat Police"?

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« Reply #85 on: June 29, 2010, 08:59:01 PM »
Ok, who made you the "Fat Police"?

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Stuff it missy -- I gorged myself on pulled pork and fries for lunch.
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« Reply #86 on: June 29, 2010, 09:05:37 PM »
Stuff it missy -- I gorged myself on pulled pork and fries for lunch.

Pffft, Whatevs.... I wresteld down a CHop House Cheddar Burger, Super Sized Fry and a fried Strawberry pie.


http://whataburger.com/menu_and_nutrition.php

Easily 100 grams of fat.

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11-6-14 CD4- 871, UD
6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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« Reply #87 on: June 29, 2010, 09:12:20 PM »
Pffft, Whatevs.... I wresteld down a CHop House Cheddar Burger, Super Sized Fry and a fried Strawberry pie.


http://whataburger.com/menu_and_nutrition.php

Easily 100 grams of fat.

-Will

And just two days after Mommie's fried drum sticks -- impressive.

ps: that burger doesn't look as good as Five Guys -- head over to 3208 Guadalupe St. next time!
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« Reply #88 on: June 29, 2010, 09:18:16 PM »

-- head over to 3208 Guadalupe St. next time!

Well aren't you the Concierge of the Forums.....can you find me a good local Ice Cream joint?

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6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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« Reply #89 on: June 30, 2010, 12:27:14 AM »
I'm assuming you're still on your Prophylaxis treatment also?

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« Reply #90 on: June 30, 2010, 10:06:59 AM »
Fried strawberry pie? FRIED? ~retch~
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« Reply #91 on: June 30, 2010, 10:43:37 AM »
I also went up in weight from about 175 to 200 after starting meds and I tried to blame it on them.  Finally, I started watching what I ate and exercised more and I'm back down to 180.  I'm 6'1" and 38.  Stupid "use more calories than you take in" rule.  Thyroid is definitely something you should get checked out, though.  It's much more common in women but since you have family history, it's not a bad idea to ask your doctor about it.
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« Reply #92 on: June 30, 2010, 10:54:03 AM »
If you're going to blame overeating on anything you should blame it on depression.
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« Reply #93 on: June 30, 2010, 06:18:04 PM »
...but...but...it tastes bad.  You know the answer to this you evil ho.

Yes, I know the answer to this, and I'm afraid it's no. YOU ARE A BAD BOY and you are gonna get a spankin! Take your Bactrim Bitch!!!!!

@Anne- Yes, Fried Strawberry pie... thaz how we roll down here.

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6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
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« Reply #94 on: June 30, 2010, 06:20:45 PM »
Wait.  She's got 95 t-cells and doesn't take her bactrim?  Seriously?
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« Reply #95 on: June 30, 2010, 06:23:51 PM »
Wait.  She's got 95 t-cells and doesn't take her bactrim?  Seriously?

Ok, I hate to be a tattletale (it's for your own good Heckraiser), but last time I talked to her she was whining about the Bactrim....so I think we need to jump her ass about it.

Trey?????

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« Reply #96 on: June 30, 2010, 06:25:24 PM »
What's to whine about Bactrim unless you get an allergic reaction?  I don't get it.
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« Reply #97 on: June 30, 2010, 07:01:10 PM »
What's to whine about Bactrim unless you get an allergic reaction?  I don't get it.

I thought the callow youth took Mepron. In which case the yucky response would be understandable.

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« Reply #98 on: June 30, 2010, 07:09:07 PM »
I thought the callow youth took Mepron.

MtD

I think your right. But we'll have to wait till she comes home from the Dairy Queen to verify...

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« Reply #99 on: June 30, 2010, 07:16:26 PM »
Well, whatever.  It can't be worse than getting PCP and having to eat hospital food for a week.
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« Reply #100 on: June 30, 2010, 07:16:49 PM »
I hate you all.  I've been off of my PCP prophylaxis for about 6 months now and yes it's Mepron.  I've toyed with the idea of starting it again but it really is pretty vile disgusting stuff.

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« Reply #101 on: June 30, 2010, 07:17:44 PM »
You should have thought about that before you took raw redneck load up your ass at the truck stop.  You'll get no pity from us here.  None.
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« Reply #102 on: June 30, 2010, 07:29:21 PM »
Ok, Truck Stop trysts or not....Perhaps you need to talk to your doc about switching to BActrim or something else. We loves our HellBottom and we dont want no PCP on your azz.

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« Reply #103 on: June 30, 2010, 07:33:17 PM »
I hate you all.  I've been off of my PCP prophylaxis for about 6 months now and yes it's Mepron.  I've toyed with the idea of starting it again but it really is pretty vile disgusting stuff.

I believe the Lord concocted Mepron as a punishment for sodomites.

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« Reply #104 on: June 30, 2010, 07:34:18 PM »
Ok, Truck Stop trysts or not....Perhaps you need to talk to your doc about switching to BActrim or something else. We loves our HellBottom and we dont want no PCP on your azz.

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I'm highly allergic to Bactrim, I'll just take the fucking Mepron Mother.

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« Reply #105 on: June 30, 2010, 07:36:25 PM »
I'm highly allergic to Bactrim, I'll just take the fucking Mepron Mother.

Well what about Dapsone or does that upset your delicate tummy too?

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« Reply #106 on: June 30, 2010, 07:39:23 PM »
Well what about Dapsone or does that upset your delicate tummy too?

MtD

I actually don't know to be honest.  My evil plan was to have the necessary 200+ CD4 so I wouldn't have to deal with this very issue.  Unfortunately my body decided to go with Plan B.  Yakamein told me about Dapsone at least 7 months ago, but I haven't asked the Doc about it.

PS:  Willy you're dead to me for narc'ing.

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« Reply #107 on: June 30, 2010, 07:44:43 PM »
but it really is pretty vile disgusting stuff.
trust me. it can't be worse than lying in a hospital with PCP, not able to breath, puking rather than eating, with doctors telling you how close to death you probably are.

bactrim was the only med that I took religiously from 1996 until 2008 when I finally seemed to be staying over 200 enough to stop the med.

by the way, Willy was already dead to you a week ago, so just ignore him. LOL
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« Reply #108 on: June 30, 2010, 07:45:21 PM »
I actually don't know to be honest.  My evil plan was to have the necessary 200+ CD4 so I wouldn't have to deal with this very issue.  Unfortunately my body decided to go with Plan B.  Yakamein told me about Dapsone at least 7 months ago, but I haven't asked the Doc about it.

PS:  Willy you're dead to me for narc'ing.

I'm glad he narced ya out . If you get sick you will never meet your goal of 5000 post by the end of the month  ;D .

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« Reply #109 on: June 30, 2010, 07:49:05 PM »

PS:  Willy you're dead to me for narc'ing.

So the truckstop deal is true?  

What does the Mepron do to you?  Does it make your stomach hurt, or does it cause you nausea?  I could barely handle either, but opted for Bactrim even though it made me feel like I was peeing crystals everytime I went to piss.  I guess that's not an option for you though.



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« Reply #110 on: June 30, 2010, 08:06:08 PM »
lol you dudes are too funny.

trey, it sounds like it's time to jump back on the prophy wagon...ask your doc about dapsone, boy...
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« Reply #111 on: June 30, 2010, 08:12:54 PM »
My CD4 is 500+ but I cant come off bactrim because I get back to back infections when off of it . I was on it for 10 + years and have tried a few times to stop but cant . Miss P called me a Bactrim addict once and I think he may be right .

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« Reply #112 on: June 30, 2010, 08:38:25 PM »
BREAKING NEWS:

I just got a verbal Promise over the phone that our Little Trey-Trey will start his Mepron again. That's the goodnews, the bad news is we had no movement on the Truck Stop shennanigans.

We shall take the little victories :)

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6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
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« Reply #113 on: June 30, 2010, 09:34:27 PM »
needless to say after this thread I am no longer concerned about my svelte physic ;D
I wasn't certain whether to post this in this thread or that dieting thread  :D ROFL


Cheerwine-infused Krispy Kremes to hit stores
Cheerwine Kreme Filled Krispy Kreme Doughnuts will be released Thursday to approximately 1,000 grocery stores across the Carolinas. The doughnuts will be packed with Cheerwine-infused crŤme and topped with a chocolate icing and a healthy dose of red and white sprinkles, said Tom Barbitta, vice president of marketing for Cheerwine. The partnership will bring together two North Carolina brands. Krispy Kreme is headquartered in Winston-Salem; Cheerwine is based about 40 miles south in Salisbury. Grocery stores that will be carrying the limited edition doughnuts are Bi-Lo, Lowes Foods, and select Harris Teeter and Food Lion stores. The doughnuts will be released exclusively in the Carolinas.

I used to always stuff a suitcase full of Cheerwine to take back to OH anytime I came home to NC/SC for a visit because it's almost (just "almost") better than Coke. Think of Cheerwine as a really good cherry Coke! And I almost went out earlier to redeem the coupon I have for a free dozen KK doughnuts (because I bought a dozen 2 wks ago - it's soooo hard to pass by that "HOT" light!). So tomorrow I'll be out looking for these. Thankfully there's a Bi-Lo, Lowes, Harri-Teeter and Food Lion all within just a few miles of my house. ;D

I just got a verbal Promise over the phone that our Little Trey-Trey will start his Mepron again.
I am very glad to hear that you'll be taking the appropriate precautions, HR, to NOT get PCP.
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« Reply #114 on: June 30, 2010, 09:37:57 PM »
I wasn't certain whether to post this in this thread or that dieting thread  :D ROFL


Cheerwine-infused Krispy Kremes to hit stores
Cheerwine Kreme Filled Krispy Kreme Doughnuts will be released Thursday to approximately 1,000 grocery stores across the Carolinas.

What the hell is Cheerwine? and how can I get some?

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6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
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« Reply #115 on: June 30, 2010, 09:52:16 PM »
What the hell is Cheerwine? and how can I get some?
It's the BEST cherry Cola, like what Eckerd drug stores used to make at their lunch counter years ago, with cherry syrup and Coke. For years it was only sold through the Carolinas (just like Hardees and Krispy Kreme), which was why I stocked up on it on my trips back down South.

you can buy it online, or find a local distributor at their website http://www.cheerwinecorp.com/
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« Reply #116 on: June 30, 2010, 09:57:26 PM »

you can buy it online, or find a local distributor at their website http://www.cheerwinecorp.com/

Yall are weird over there in the "Linas".

Anyways thanks for the link, I signed up to win the "Cheer Van".

-Will
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6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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« Reply #117 on: June 30, 2010, 10:20:16 PM »
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« Reply #119 on: June 30, 2010, 10:28:24 PM »
Hot I'll hold her skinny ass down, you perform the beating.
Right.... sure I could weigh 185# but I haven't in 10 years and my doc and I are happy with my weight and build.  I look at it like this.... if you're so skinny you would blow away in a stiff wind.... you need to come over for dinner and we'll feed you some good food and fatten you right up.  Nothin hotter than a man who is built like a man.  Woof!
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« Reply #120 on: June 30, 2010, 10:35:49 PM »
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« Reply #121 on: June 30, 2010, 10:38:09 PM »
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« Reply #122 on: June 30, 2010, 10:43:37 PM »
ON TOPIC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeVWjherVJg

See now this is what I aspire to. Back tits.

He's gay too, just like the rest of you fat whales.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DyASQfq9m0

Remember sweetie, bald is forever.

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« Reply #123 on: June 30, 2010, 10:44:36 PM »
Trey --- thread envy rising    ;D
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12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
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« Reply #124 on: June 30, 2010, 10:49:01 PM »
you fat whales.


Ahhh, Ms P.....the ying to our yang, the no to our yes. Such a gentle, delicate mastery of the English language.

My life would not be worth living without your tender sweet nothings whispered in my ears.

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6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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« Reply #125 on: June 30, 2010, 10:51:30 PM »

My life would not be worth living without your tender sweet nothings whispered in my ears.

-Will

I thought of you when I had my $6 cup of artisinal grapefruit campari sorbet this afternoon.
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« Reply #126 on: June 30, 2010, 10:56:36 PM »
$6 cup of artisinal grapefruit campari sorbet this afternoon.

Whatevs you Yanky snob. I'm working through a pint of Ben and Jerrys Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough as we speak.
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« Reply #127 on: June 30, 2010, 10:57:37 PM »
Whatevs you Yanky snob. I'm working through a pint of Ben and Jerrys Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough as we speak.

Yankee? I thought she was a fair southern belle?

MtD

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« Reply #128 on: June 30, 2010, 10:58:03 PM »
your giving me cravings lol

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« Reply #129 on: July 01, 2010, 01:36:46 AM »
I hate you all.  I've been off of my PCP prophylaxis for about 6 months now and yes it's Mepron.  I've toyed with the idea of starting it again but it really is pretty vile disgusting stuff.

I thought you were restarting it about the time of the trip to New Orleans. 

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« Reply #130 on: July 01, 2010, 10:23:43 AM »
Treysie,

Did you take your Mepron today?????????

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Last Labs-
11-6-14 CD4- 871, UD
6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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« Reply #131 on: July 01, 2010, 02:57:22 PM »
Have to thank the OP for the wakeup call that is this thread.

The summer I seroconverted, I weighed 70 kilos by September, when I went on HAART.  I stabilized back at my normal 80.  Well this week at the DOC, i hit 100 kilos.  I had a good look at myself and its confirmed, I am a fat pig!  How the fuck did that happen so quickly?  I was always thin.   

Oh shit I'm going to a dietician ASAP.  I thought shrink, or ID, or endrocrinologist would have some helpful ideas, yet they all stare at me blankly! 

And I don't sit on my ass all day, and I don't eat like a pig...
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« Reply #132 on: July 01, 2010, 03:04:51 PM »
1/86 - 6/08 (annually): neg elisa
7/09: pos elisa/pos wb
8/09: cd4 560, cd4% 35, vl 13,050
12/09: cd4 568, cd4% 33, vl 2,690
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« Reply #133 on: July 01, 2010, 03:06:59 PM »
Oh, dear, i am really fucking afraid and depressed now!  I'm gonna end up like that in a year or two.
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #134 on: July 01, 2010, 03:08:58 PM »

The summer I seroconverted, I weighed 70 kilos by September, when I went on HAART.  I stabilized back at my normal 80.  Well this week at the DOC, i hit 100 kilos.  I had a good look at myself and its confirmed, I am a fat pig!  How the fuck did that happen so quickly?  I was always thin.   

And what's your height?  220 lbs is definite Lard Land, fo'sho! What in the world have you been eating on the shores of Lake Geneva?  A KFC tummy isn't fetch in the sauna.
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #135 on: July 01, 2010, 03:20:55 PM »
I haven't been in a sauna for 4 years!
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yeah lardo!  wtf!
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #136 on: July 01, 2010, 03:25:38 PM »
So what are you eating?  I'd figure that if you lived in a European large city you at least walk a lot compared to these Americans that even get their dry cleaning via a drive through window.  Having not owned a car for 20 years and walking everywhere I know that I keep weight off that way.
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #137 on: July 01, 2010, 03:28:43 PM »
Nothing changed in my diet. Though last year I drank more than usual.  But still seem to be gaining this year!  I ride my bike everywhere and don't own a car.  I can't figure it out - thats why I asked all the docs. 
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #138 on: July 01, 2010, 03:35:29 PM »
Yeah, sudden weight gain like that isn't very healthy at all... once you're over 40 it can bother with your blood pressure.
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #139 on: July 01, 2010, 04:20:38 PM »




Damn you, Leatherman. Damn you to Hell!

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #140 on: July 01, 2010, 04:21:41 PM »
I probably eat a total of one donut a year.
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #141 on: July 01, 2010, 04:24:24 PM »
I probably eat a total of one donut a year.

This is the only place to go for doughnuts, everything else is a fat and sugar-laden waste of time:

http://www.doughnutplant.com/

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #142 on: July 01, 2010, 04:35:13 PM »
This is the only place to go for doughnuts, everything else is a fat and sugar-laden waste of time:

http://www.doughnutplant.com/

Yeah, that's on the Lower East Side.  I had those eons ago when they only sold them at Dean & Deluca and they are incredible.

I'm very partial to a chocolate croissant if I'm going the sweets route in the morning.  A donut is just so atrociously a sugar overload.
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #143 on: July 01, 2010, 04:50:17 PM »
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #144 on: July 01, 2010, 06:16:58 PM »
We're having a heat wave this week.
I'm teaching every day and I'm bushed. I just woke up from a nap, naked on my bed.
I was dreaming that I was handing out with a college lover, but we were both our age now.
He was taller and skinner than I was, and then after college he got chunky.
In the dream, we were singing a song called,
"Happy Happy Fat Fat Fairy."

And now I just woke up. And its clear I am doomed. I guess I have to diet this summer.
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #145 on: July 01, 2010, 06:29:06 PM »
Yes Mother Willie

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #146 on: July 01, 2010, 06:50:42 PM »
Damn you, Leatherman. Damn you to Hell!
I went to four freaking grocery stores today, and no one has these damned doughnuts.  >:( ARGH! And all four of those were in NC. Tomorrow I'll go left at the end of the road and try the 4 local grocery stores in SC. I've also put calls out to my brothers and GrandMother to be on the lookout for a store selling them. Now that I can't find them, I want them even more!
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #147 on: July 01, 2010, 07:00:16 PM »
I went to four freaking grocery stores today, and no one has these damned doughnuts.  >:( ARGH! And all four of those were in NC. Tomorrow I'll go left at the end of the road and try the 4 local grocery stores in SC. I've also put calls out to my brothers and GrandMother to be on the lookout for a store selling them. Now that I can't find them, I want them even more!

If yall don't stop eating that crap your gonna end up behind a crispy kreme with sugar all over your face shooting insulin just like me . 

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #148 on: July 01, 2010, 07:15:47 PM »
If yall don't stop eating that crap your gonna end up behind a crispy kreme with sugar all over your face shooting insulin just like me . 


Better yet, they'll end up like the overweight man in Apartment 2F of my building who was just found dead after not being seen for a couple of weeks.  He could barely go three steps without being out of breath.
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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #149 on: July 01, 2010, 07:44:17 PM »
When my partner and I lived in Hawthorne, CA we used to walk to the Boy's Market at 12:30 am to get glazed buttermilk donuts fresh out of the fryer and a gallon of cold milk. It was decadent.

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #150 on: July 01, 2010, 08:23:03 PM »
Yes Mother Willie

It's not only  mother Willie, YOU ARE going to take care of yourself

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Re: Doctor's Visit, say what?
« Reply #151 on: July 01, 2010, 08:26:32 PM »
Better yet, they'll end up like the overweight man in Apartment 2F of my building who was just found dead after not being seen for a couple of weeks.  He could barely go three steps without being out of breath.

Did you ever hear strange stomping noises coming from his apartment's direction...say like he was making some sort of dancing youtube video?

 


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