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Oral Question
« on: June 23, 2010, 07:17:12 PM »
Hi everyone. I have some questions, not new obviously, but I rather make it with my specific facts. Few days ago I went to a strip club and got some lap dances, two girls did oral sex on me (me being sucked) and ended the episode y masturbation of one of these girls. I did some fingering on both by inserting my finger all the way in their vaginas. Finally, one of these girls has mouth braces and after the oral sex (ten minutes later) I did saw blood in her mouth (visible), so I assume that during the oral sex there was blood as well. I did not see any cuts in my dick, but there could be always something there, as not visible cuts or damage from the lap dances.

Any ways, I have always been compulsive about these issues and is difficult for me to believe that I was not in risk so I am thinking about getting tested within 6 weeks, but I prefer not to; however, I am married and have being avoiding unprotected relations with my wife, because of the above.

Do the above facts require testing?

There is a real risk for HIV based in the above?

Can the above be considered extreme circumstances that could be out of the ordinary no-risk assessment?

Thank you in advance

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2010, 07:41:52 PM »
You had no risk of contracting HIV from oral sex.

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2010, 10:25:19 PM »
With or without cuts or nicks or whatever on the penis, no guy has ever been infected through having received oral. It's safe to say you aren't going to make history by becoming the first. You are worrying needlessly. None of the activities you have reported put you at risk for HIV transmission.

Sexually, as long as you always use condoms for vaginal and anal intercourse, you will be well protected against HIV transmission. It really is just that simple.

There's no need for testing this time.

Cheers.
Andy Velez

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 09:22:33 AM »
Thank you guys !! I need to learn not to be a worried well and as you say Andy, really is just that simple !!

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2010, 09:27:16 AM »
It is, it really is.

Cheers.
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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2010, 12:51:03 PM »
Quick additional info. Does it makes a difference if the girls had oral sex between them prior giving oral sex to me?

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2010, 01:00:09 PM »
No. Absolutely not. No matter what you throw into the mix in the way of details, receiving oral is absolutely not a risk for HIV transmission. Period.
Andy Velez

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 01:04:42 PM »
Thnaks !! Understood.

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2010, 02:21:06 PM »
You're welcome.
Andy Velez

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2010, 05:24:22 PM »
Dear Andy,

Quick question. I have been anxious and nervous about the events described above. I have decided to test and my question is if a HIV Combo (Antibody and p24) at day 34th will be good enough or if I shall wait until the 6th week to have an Antibody test. Which would be more reliable?

Regards and thanks in advance,

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2010, 05:28:27 PM »
If you decide to test over this incident, then the result will be negative. because you had no risk.

Had you engaged in a legitimate risk (unprotected anal and/or vaginal sex, sharing needles) then only a test at the three month period is considered definitive.

But you had no risk.

YOU HAD NO RISK.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Offline gg

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2010, 06:15:10 PM »
Thank you very much. I do understand your words and clear message; however, this test is more for my peace of mind and that is why I want to know wich one is more reliable as a baseline prior to the 3 months mark.

Regards,

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2010, 06:57:56 PM »
Well, there is your answer. What will give you peace of mind? A test BEFORE the appropriate window, or a test AT the appropriate window? I imagine you will test both times, at least. But as the LESSONS section here clearly states, three months remains the global standard.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Offline gg

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2010, 02:35:08 PM »
All,

Thank you for the great support and advice. I did an HIV Ag/Ac Combo @ day 39 from the above explained exposure and came back negative. I know is NOT conclusive but brings a lot of relief and helps to face the conclusive one @ 3 months mark. Just wanted to share and thank you.

Regards,

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2010, 02:53:36 PM »
gg,

Your test result was negative because as you have been repeatedly told, you did NOT have a risk for hiv infection.

You do not need further testing over this incident. You are conclusively hiv negative.

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2011, 01:46:54 PM »
Hi All. I not sure if for a new situation I need to start a new topic / post.

 I have certain doubts that make me feel uncomfortable from a recent experience. The facts are as follows:

1. Yesterday I got a mouth cleaning at 7:00pm. There was blood (specially in my gums) and some visual open wounds.

2. Around 2:00am, I got involved in sex with a prostitute. I got protected oral sex followed by protected vaginal intercourse. This was with the same condom, which at the end I reviewed and it was perfect (not broken nor out of place). I performed some cunnilingus, very superficial and for no more than 30 seconds (never got inside only some kissing and tongue massage in the out-lips, probably clit, but never got inside or deep) and some deep fingering (no visible wounds in my finger).

My questions are: Was the cunnilingus risky for HIV due to the prior mouth cleaning and wounds in my gums and mouth? Was the use of the same condom for both (oral and vaginal) was risky? Was the fingering risky? Shall I perform an HIV test or can I continue my life?

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2011, 02:46:14 PM »
No.
No.
No.
No you don't need testing.

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2011, 04:02:21 PM »
You've been told what the risks are sexually for HIV. That doesn't seem to penetrate.

If you come back with another non-risk you are going to find yourself getting a 28 day time out.

Use condoms for vaginal and anal intercourse and you will be well protected against the sexual transmission of HIV. Period.
Andy Velez

Offline gg

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2011, 05:37:17 PM »
Dear Andy,

An apology if my concerns caused an inconvenience. I understand the risks you have constantly pointed –needles, vaginal and anal unprotected sex- and I am aware none of these is my particular case. I am nervous as for my own situation and trying to manage it.

Under my “worst case scenario” assessment I am assuming the girl is HIV+, I got vaginal fluids in my mouth and my mouth was with open wounds, which takes me to a “magnified” risk which in addition to my ignorance on the HIV cellular dynamics and general medical knowledge, results in anxiety; but again, this is just me and I understand and respect your position.

I restate my apology and I am thankful for all of you helping us.

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Re: Oral Question
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2011, 06:20:27 PM »
Your headgames with yourself notwithstanding, you did not have a risk.

Last warning. If you come again with this same concern you are getting a Time out. 
Andy Velez

 


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