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Offline jkinatl2

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2010, 01:44:28 PM »
No.
"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2010, 02:38:23 PM »
ant,

You're not supposed to kiss when there is a herpes blister (cold sore) present as that is how herpes is spread. However, it is not a risk for hiv infection.

I'm giving you that second time out you've been warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2011, 11:36:25 AM »
Hello and thank u for this no bullshite site!

Sorry to bother u all again,but I did do another stupid thing many months after the last one.
I went home with a transvestite,got my penis sucked off without a condom untill I came in his mouth.
Later after being dressed we started to fool around again quite heavy( I didn't take my clothes off but he did and asked me to start rubbing his(silicon breast) very hard,slap them and even bite in them.
after he/she came (the first time I experienced this sort of sm behaviour!) I noticed that her/his nipples bled! and yes u guessed it....I completely freaked out!

1:How much of a risk was I in being blown without a condom,there was inflamation on the foreskin and the head was damaged a bit, it hurted somewhat after the rather rough blowjob.

2:What about the blood on and around the nipples, I kissed them and had some on my fingers from all the sqeezing and rubbing,afterwards I did wash my hands.

I know I presented some far fetched situations in the past but now blown without condom and ejaculation and the the top of my fingers touching the blood and maybe even my lips I am really scared

Thank u and hoping for a quick respons





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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2011, 12:21:44 PM »
You never had an exposure in the situations you've provided.

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2011, 05:06:30 PM »
You've been told before that the only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. Period. Use condoms everytime for those activities and you will be well protected.

No guy has ever become infected through getting his dick sucked and you are not going to make history by becoming the first. No, no matter what special details you throw into the mix.

That blood matter? Also not a risk. HIV is a fragile virus and is not transmitted in that manner.

There's no cause for further concern about HIV in relation to your latest incident nor is there any need for testing. Get on with your life.
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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2011, 12:24:17 PM »
I really dont want to throw different scenarios into the mix but for sure my fingers did rub on the blood(its because of the rubbing,a bit of bitting on the nipples,etc...that caused it to bleed).
I do not engage in anal sex,giving blowjobs,needles and the last time I had vaginal sex was 5 months prior to an conclusive negative test result but Its because of seeing those wounds on the breast.Blood is the most effective way to get infected no?
I do bite my nails and although at that time no hangnails are visible open wounds on the top of my fingers,the blood touched the skin and must have got under the nail,maybe just enough to infect through not visible open wounds.
Before that while we both were still undressed and during the rather passionate kissing and I receiving a blowjob( it went on like that for quite some time,kiss,blow,kiss,blow) I keep thinking maybe the breasts where already somewhat bleeding(not impossible since the rubbing,a bit of biting and sqeezing started during that time and they were at least already red ).I could have been that some small blood particles were mixing with saliva and sperm or at least precum.

I kept away from intercourse just because of my fear and only now received  an unprocted insertive blowjob,but eventually seeing many different small wounds with blood(not streaming,just open cracked wounds) freaks me out...
Knowing that just a tiny ,even unvisble amount of blood is enough to infect...

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2011, 12:31:01 PM »
And I must add that heshe was a saexworker so the highest risk group.

Again,no anal or me sucking just all the details I described and which I know Andy hates if I do so and Im sorry if I do so.

Thank u

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2011, 12:58:38 PM »
Seek out professional help for your phobias.

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #58 on: January 05, 2011, 01:35:24 PM »
Antwerp, forget about that "high risk group" stuff. Sex workers like staying healthy and often take more care regarding HIV than civilians do.

What matters is what you and how you do it, specifically if you always without exception use condoms for vaginal and anal intercourse. As you should know by now those are the only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV.

So all that you try to throw into the mix to scare yourself with like fingernail bitting and whatever is totally irrelevant. Give it up and get on with your life. And you can't, then as Rod suggested, get some professional help with your unwarranted concerns.
Andy Velez

Offline antwerpen

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #59 on: January 06, 2011, 12:10:12 PM »

Thank u and I really think u have an no nonse informative website its just me(and I guess many others having a hard time to let it all sink in).

Without a doubt I have phobias and should learn to deal with them and I really am trying ( that is why i have no intercourse until I cleared things up )but its all things to do with blood,because that is the most contagious form.But hard nipple sucking and a bit of biting and slapping and I guess consequently having some blood on your lips or naybe other body parts are not phobias I think.

So Andy or Anne or whomever,is even with cracked lips( which due to the freezing temperatures I had at newyear) tasting or whatever manner blood on your lips not dangerous at all?I really did suck the nipples and its area very hard,so really pressed my lips of and on to it.

Thank u and I really think u have an informative website its just me(and I guess many others having a hard time to let it sink in)

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2011, 12:20:58 PM »
One question about that confirmed;isnt just that what I and often many others describe is ..well weird acts? That those acts are not taking in account with all that research,serodiscordant couples,etc...
Whome or those in whatever kind of research program would only perform that?
Surely,I dont think there has ever been just an investigation on only kissing,biting of lets say nipples or other none convencional ways of making out which eachother where there might be for example blood,no matter how little or other bodily fluids involved?

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2011, 12:36:03 PM »
Sir, if you and "many others" describe an act, it is not a "weird" act but a common one.

Kissing, biting, et al are routinely done by people in serodiscordant relationships.

I honestly think that you are expressing unfounded and irrational fear here - phobia if you will.

This site can not assist you with those fears, as we provide rational, data-driven scientific assessment. Such services are notoriously ineffective when confronted with irrational fears. I sincerely hope that you find help in dealing with your problems, but I think that this site is no longer a healthy place for you.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2011, 01:11:37 PM »
We've done what we can do for you in this setting. If you continue to return with more what ifs and speculations you are going to get a Time Out from the site.

Consider yourself warned.
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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #63 on: January 07, 2011, 12:14:47 PM »
First of all I want to apologize for calling it weird acts but I didnt describe what ifs.... those things really happened,absolutely no anal I swear, but all the rest and again it was seeing the damaged breast area when the light was turned on,like small little cracks that just opened and bled a bit.
Isnt hiv by blood contact then only spread through needles,anal or as ann describes it; anextremely bad and bleeding mouth?
And I did ask a serious question about all that scientific research. Has it ever happened about those acts and just those acts but no answer by andy or Ji...?So I guess it never has been done and therefore dismiss all the people who are afraid they are infected are those infected who claim they got from oral,"those acts",etc.. "not scientific" and basically say that everybody who claims they were infected that way just dont tell the truth.

I predict u are now going to ban me from preventing answering the question and therefore education us.

But nevertheless I do think u are a great site but do all of u honestly think and know its just..anal,vaginal,babymilk and needles?

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #64 on: January 07, 2011, 12:20:04 PM »
"And those sexworkers who like to keep good care of themselves."Most of them do drugs,mainly cocaine just to keep up with the job. The one I was with( I did not pay,he invited to his house) said he doesnt pay for it they just pass it around .

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #65 on: January 07, 2011, 12:26:36 PM »
Actually, breast milk very rarely transmits from a nursing mother to a child who has yet to develop an immune system. There have never been any documented cases of an adult getting HIV through breast milk.

Use a condom for vaginal and anal sex, and do not share needles if you inject recreational drugs. These simple acts will effectively remove HIV from your list of worries.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #66 on: January 07, 2011, 12:54:37 PM »
We've given you the basics you need to know to prevent the sexual transmission of HIV.

We're not going to get into further conversation about the doubts and fears you have. Get some professional help if you need to.

And yes, you are being warned that if you continue to return when you haven't had a genuine risk you are going to get a Time Out.
Andy Velez

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Re: no danger in oral sex?
« Reply #67 on: January 08, 2011, 12:21:34 PM »
But JKINATL2,Andy or someone. I just asked a question;Are anal,vaginal or sharing dirty needles the only risks when it involves blood (or semen)?Not touching or kissing(I did had cracked lips)  just opened small wounds or cracks that are bleeding a bit,visible( no running blood)?

I am married and I dont want to put my wifes life at risk(yes I know guilt plays a part but it did happpen nevertheless).I swear I didnt have anal,vaginal or needle contact.

Please answer my question and I wont bother u again with this subject

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« Reply #68 on: January 08, 2011, 12:31:52 PM »
■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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« Reply #69 on: January 08, 2011, 01:08:21 PM »
Ant,

How many times do we have to tell you that only unprotected intercourse and needle sharing are adult risks?

You've been warned repeatedly in the past few days that if you kept this up, you would get your third and final time out. I'm now permanently banning you. Don't bother trying to create a new account as it will only be rejected.

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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