Quantcast

Subscribe to:
POZ magazine
E-newsletters
Join POZ: Facebook MySpace Twitter Pinterest
Tumblr Google+ Flickr MySpace
POZ Personals
Sign In / Join
Username:
Password:
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
July 23, 2014, 04:28:32 AM

Login with username, password and session length


Members
Stats
  • Total Posts: 631529
  • Total Topics: 47804
  • Online Today: 244
  • Online Ever: 585
  • (January 07, 2014, 02:31:47 PM)
Users Online
Users: 3
Guests: 192
Total: 195

Welcome


Welcome to the POZ/AIDSmeds Community Forums, a round-the-clock discussion area for people with HIV/AIDS, their friends/family/caregivers, and others concerned about HIV/AIDS.  Click on the links below to browse our various forums; scroll down for a glance at the most recent posts; or join in the conversation yourself by registering on the left side of this page.

Privacy Warning:  Please realize that these forums are open to all, and are fully searchable via Google and other search engines. If you are HIV positive and disclose this in our forums, then it is almost the same thing as telling the whole world (or at least the World Wide Web). If this concerns you, then do not use a username or avatar that are self-identifying in any way. We do not allow the deletion of anything you post in these forums, so think before you post.

  • The information shared in these forums, by moderators and members, is designed to complement, not replace, the relationship between an individual and his/her own physician.

  • All members of these forums are, by default, not considered to be licensed medical providers. If otherwise, users must clearly define themselves as such.

  • Forums members must behave at all times with respect and honesty. Posting guidelines, including time-out and banning policies, have been established by the moderators of these forums. Click here for “Am I Infected?” posting guidelines. Click here for posting guidelines pertaining to all other POZ/AIDSmeds community forums.

  • We ask all forums members to provide references for health/medical/scientific information they provide, when it is not a personal experience being discussed. Please provide hyperlinks with full URLs or full citations of published works not available via the Internet. Additionally, all forums members must post information which are true and correct to their knowledge.

  • Product advertisement—including links; banners; editorial content; and clinical trial, study or survey participation—is strictly prohibited by forums members unless permission has been secured from POZ.

To change forums navigation language settings, click here (members only), Register now

Para cambiar sus preferencias de los foros en español, haz clic aquí (sólo miembros), Regístrate ahora

Finished Reading This? You can collapse this or any other box on this page by clicking the symbol in each box.

Author Topic: Probiotics  (Read 5890 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Realist

  • Member
  • Posts: 162
    • NotDownNotOut's Blog
Probiotics
« on: June 07, 2010, 03:27:05 PM »
Not sure if anyone can help here?

I started Atripla March 26th as my first regimen (with little or no side effects after a few nights disturbed sleep - very pleased). The only complaint I had was loose motions (i'm trying to be polite!).

Each morning I would have a very urgent and watery visit to the bathroom but fine for the rest of the day. For the past three days I've been drinking two probiotic shots (brand is Actimel in the UK) a day and this has helped a lot. Still visit the bathroom first thing every morning, but nowhere near as loose and I actually feel better (less internal gas and rumblings).

Has anyone else used probiotics - the "good" bacteria?
23/02/10 Tests confirmed
25/02/10 13100 220 24%
12/03/10 19800 372 19%
26/03/10 Atripla
30/04/10 58 286 23%
28/05/10 45 222 21%
25/06/10 UD 301 23%
24/09/10 UD 283 22%
01/12/10 UD 319 23%
11/03/11 UD 293 28%
10/06/11 UD 423 24%
23/08/11 UD 389 26%
28/02/11 UD 315 34%

I blogged it all http://notdownnotout.blogspot.com

Offline veritas

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,408
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2010, 06:43:15 PM »

Realist,

Can't hurt, might help!

http://www.thebody.com/content/art52570.html

Find a yogurt you like and enjoy. I like "Stonybrook Farms low-fat french vanilla".

v

Offline J.R.E.

  • Member
  • Posts: 7,093
  • Joined Dec-2003 Living positive, since 1985.
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2010, 09:09:13 AM »

Has anyone else used probiotics - the "good" bacteria?


Yes I do.  I have used them on and off for quite a few years, and regularly since 2003. I found that after I started meds, in 2003 taking probiotics helped to settle the stomach.

I was having one Danactive in the morning and an Activia at night.  I now alternate, between the two every other day.

And I can't remember the last time I had digestive issues. I don't get diarrhea. I'm Never constipated, bowel movements are normal.  So, Somethings working!! You may want to consider dietary changes also to help.


I agree with Veritas.  Find a yogurt you like, and enjoy.  You can find more info by checking out the news section,( on this site) type in probiotics in the search box :


http://www.poz.com/archive/currentNews_1.shtml



Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of 6/4/14,  t-cells are at 423, Viral load <40

 Current % is at 13% 

  
 62 years young.

Offline mecch

  • Member
  • Posts: 11,211
  • red pill? or blue pill?
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2010, 11:00:23 AM »
Not all yogurts are created equal. Some have no active cultures whatsoever.

"Probiotic" products in the supermarket tend to be industrial, and expensive.

Look for yogurts with active cultures or order some active culture supplements from a supplement shop. 

Fiber food, too, I think.
“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need” 1875 K Marx

Offline Nestor

  • Member
  • Posts: 430
  • What we love, we shall grow to resemble.
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2010, 11:06:24 AM »

I started having that problem every day in January 2005--it was about half a year into having HIV although I didn't know it yet.  Someone suggested yogurt and I started eating it; the problem went away and has never come back.  What Mecch says is important.  Kefir is great! 
Summer 2004--became HIV+
Dec. 2005--found out

Date          CD4    %       VL
Jan. '06    725    25      9,097
Nov. '06    671    34     52,202
Apr. '07    553    30      24,270
Sept. '07  685    27       4,849
Jan. '08    825    29       4,749
Mar. '08    751    30     16,026
Aug. '08    653    30       3,108
Oct. '08     819    28     10,046
Jan '09      547    31     13,000
May '09     645   25        6,478
Aug. '09    688   30      19,571
Nov. '09     641    27       9,598
Feb. '10     638    27       4,480
May '10      687      9    799,000 (CMV)
July '10      600     21      31,000
Nov '10      682     24     15,000
June '11     563    23     210,000 (blasto)
July  '11      530    22      39,000
Aug '11      677     22      21,000
Sept. '12    747     15      14,000

Offline Realist

  • Member
  • Posts: 162
    • NotDownNotOut's Blog
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2010, 11:55:05 AM »
Fiber food, too, I think.

Thanks Mecch, tried that too - only problem was it made it worse! Something to do with digestable and non-digestable fiber (I was trying to load up on on the non-digestable variety - the stuff everyone thinks of as fiber foods - seems there's helpful fiber and not so helpful fiber if you have a stomach issue). Apprently if you get diarrhea, non-digestable fiber doesn't help but digestable (like apples) does.

I'm using a yogurt with active cultures and definitely helping.
23/02/10 Tests confirmed
25/02/10 13100 220 24%
12/03/10 19800 372 19%
26/03/10 Atripla
30/04/10 58 286 23%
28/05/10 45 222 21%
25/06/10 UD 301 23%
24/09/10 UD 283 22%
01/12/10 UD 319 23%
11/03/11 UD 293 28%
10/06/11 UD 423 24%
23/08/11 UD 389 26%
28/02/11 UD 315 34%

I blogged it all http://notdownnotout.blogspot.com

Offline madbrain

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,208
  • No longer an active member
    • My personal site
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2010, 12:59:17 PM »
I made a trip to Whole Foods on saturday. I picked up something called "Rejuvelac" from the rejuvenation company. It's a probiotic drink with 45 billion CFU lactobacillus acidophilus in a 32 oz bottle . I tried it yesterday. It has a horribly bitter taste. I think I'll stick with probiotic pills instead. But one has to swallow quite a few of them to get 45 billion CFU.

Offline mecch

  • Member
  • Posts: 11,211
  • red pill? or blue pill?
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2010, 01:28:29 PM »
45 billion live something or others, huh.   When I was eating or driking too much of something my grandma would tell me it was going to be coming out my ears.  All things in moderation and she's doing fine in her 90's. 
“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need” 1875 K Marx

Offline Grasshopper

  • Member
  • Posts: 451
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2010, 05:11:41 AM »

Offline Boze

  • Member
  • Posts: 477
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2010, 09:04:33 AM »
I am in favor of probiotic pills. I think they offer many more bacteria than you can get in a yogurt. I read that daily count of 15 billion is preferred.

I prefer the  PB8 brand

http://www.vitacost.com/Nutrition-Now-PB-8-Pro-Biotic-Acidophilus-for-Life

They have similar ones in other countries
==========
Aug08 - Seroconversion
Mar10 - Diagnosis; cd4 690 - VL 19,000
Apr10 - cd4 600
May10 - VL 4,500
Jun10 - started Atripla ; VL 113
Jul 10 - UD vl, CD4 590
Aug 10 - UD, CD4 810, 52%
Nov 10 - UD, CD4 980

Offline Merlin

  • Member
  • Posts: 642
  • As My WILL, So MOTE It Be !
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2010, 02:58:17 PM »
Someone suggested yogurt and I started eating it; the problem went away and has never come back.  What Mecch says is important.  Kefir is great! 

Yup, if you can get your hands on some Kefir grains * and culture them yourselves, it will be very helpful. It helped me tremendously. I make/take it regularly after my Kombucha culture stopped reproducing. Keep everything for preparation clean. For a big boost, I also take Probiotic pills (20bil) weekly.

* Check your local Kefir sharing clubs.
I'll leave Hatred to those not strong enough to Love.

                            +++

Believe & The Power Of The Mind Transforms.
Make It Happen...

                            +++

I blame them for nothing.
I forgive them for everything.

---->> Mary J. Blige on dysfuctional parents

Offline Boze

  • Member
  • Posts: 477
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2010, 06:59:48 PM »
For a big boost, I also take Probiotic pills (20bil) weekly.


What does that mean? Once a week?
==========
Aug08 - Seroconversion
Mar10 - Diagnosis; cd4 690 - VL 19,000
Apr10 - cd4 600
May10 - VL 4,500
Jun10 - started Atripla ; VL 113
Jul 10 - UD vl, CD4 590
Aug 10 - UD, CD4 810, 52%
Nov 10 - UD, CD4 980

Offline Merlin

  • Member
  • Posts: 642
  • As My WILL, So MOTE It Be !
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2010, 01:53:22 PM »
What does that mean? Once a week?

I'm taking Kefir daily so I don't really need to pop Probiotic pills daily. Moreover, my Probiotic pills are in 20 bil count so it's too much if I were to take them daily. If you are not on Kefir, try to consume cultured yoghurt instead. You can also supplement with your Probiotic pills every other day depending on the live bacteria count. Some pills has 1-5 bil count, so those are fine for daily consumption.

Here's another natural way you can help with your GI problems. Stumbled upon this blog. You can google more on this vegetable if you choose to learn more, Good luck.  ;)

http://maxloh-something2share.blogspot.com/2008/12/benefits-of-eating-ladys-finger-okra.html
I'll leave Hatred to those not strong enough to Love.

                            +++

Believe & The Power Of The Mind Transforms.
Make It Happen...

                            +++

I blame them for nothing.
I forgive them for everything.

---->> Mary J. Blige on dysfuctional parents

Offline Boze

  • Member
  • Posts: 477
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2010, 01:50:20 PM »
Thanks. I just find popping a couple pills with 15bn probiotics cheaper and easier and buying Kefir. Or growing it myself :)
==========
Aug08 - Seroconversion
Mar10 - Diagnosis; cd4 690 - VL 19,000
Apr10 - cd4 600
May10 - VL 4,500
Jun10 - started Atripla ; VL 113
Jul 10 - UD vl, CD4 590
Aug 10 - UD, CD4 810, 52%
Nov 10 - UD, CD4 980

Offline hope_for_a_cure

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,501
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2010, 10:20:29 AM »
Try some Greek yogurt too. 

Offline J.R.E.

  • Member
  • Posts: 7,093
  • Joined Dec-2003 Living positive, since 1985.
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2010, 07:37:12 PM »

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/197406.php



A new study looking at the role probiotics may play in increasing CD4 cell count in people with HIV infection is underway at the AIDS  Healthcare Foundation (AHF). Today, researchers began a 3-month, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial to demonstrate safety and efficacy of taking capsules with 2 billion cells of a strain of Bacillus coagulans probiotics known as GanedenBC30 to increase critical CD4 cell count, a measure of immune status used to gauge progression of HIV infection...
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of 6/4/14,  t-cells are at 423, Viral load <40

 Current % is at 13% 

  
 62 years young.

Offline GNYC09

  • Member
  • Posts: 702
Re: Probiotics
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2010, 11:18:19 PM »
You should look into Culturelle, a "is a patented, clinically proven probiotic used in over 400 research studies."

Also, I take calcium (slows digestive tract), Immodium A-D (anti-diarrhea) and L-Glutamine (on an empty stomach-helps digestive cells rebuild) when things get bad.  I also cut down on the coffee, which can cause diarrhea in me during times of stress. 

Good luck.

 


Terms of Membership for these forums
 

© 2014 Smart + Strong. All Rights Reserved.   terms of use and your privacy
Smart + Strong® is a registered trademark of CDM Publishing, LLC.