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Offline stew_man

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In contact with Hiv
« on: May 11, 2010, 04:07:05 PM »
Hi,

I came in contact with hiv because I was so careless. I'm a gay man and I masturbated my hiv + BF.
He used a paper towel to clean up his sperm.
Then he masturbated me. And I just take the paper towel next to the bed that my friend used less than 10 minutes before to clean the tip of my penis.
Can't tell you how wet it was, I used to clean me and noticed it later.
I didn't panic, but went to my doctor 21 hours later. He just prescribed me PEP with Truvada to be sure and safely. I took it 22 hours later.
My questions:
1. Was I ever at risk? Does hiv live more than 5 minutes in the sperm in a paper towel?
2. Has sperm to be no more liquid to make the virus inactive?
3. Was my Pep at time and a good choice to prevent an infection?
4. When could seroconversion happen? How would I remark it? Will fever appear?

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2010, 04:10:26 PM »
You never had an exposure from masturbation.

HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions, therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 04:22:58 PM »
I agree with Rod. You were never at risk in this situation and frankly I am appalled that a doctor was willing to give you PEP. I can only guess that perhaps you were sufficiently anxious about the incident that you persuaded him to prescribe PEP.

There was no risk and taking PEP was/is totally unwarranted.

The only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. Everything else sexual in terms of risk is strictly theoretical. In the real world of HIV we know it's about unprotected intercourse.

Read our lesson on transmission. There's a link to it in the Welcome thread which opens this section.

You are worrying needlessly but you do need to become better educated about transmission.
Andy Velez

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2010, 05:13:25 PM »
Thanks for the replys!
Yes you're right I was and am  still very anxious. I think the sperm on the paper towel was still wet  because of the quantity my friend left there and I can't really understand why this isn't anymore infectious after five minutes. And I touched the urethra opening of my penis with it. My friend doesn't take any meds and has a high viral load (87 000).
Do you really think that my risk is zero in this situation?

How could I notice seroconversion? Is there always or nearly always fever? How does the rash look like?
I have some acne on the face (more than usually) and a few red spots on the arms, shoulders and chest. Most of them are follicular papules.

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2010, 05:21:30 PM »
1. The paper towel could have been dripping with sperm and it still wouldn't have been infectious. HIV is a very fragile virus and it requires a receptive setting like a vagina or an anus to remain viable for transmission.

A paper towel is not such a setting. Period.

2. Yes, your risk was zero in this incident.

3. Anytime there has been a genuinely risky incident it is not about noticing symptoms. Neither the presence nor the absence of symptoms will ever tell you anything accurately about your HIV status. In such circumstances only and HIV test at 13 weeks can give you that answer reliably.

4. What you are worrying about symptomatically has nothing to do with HIV. Discuss your skin problems with your doctor.

5. This is not an HIV situation and you need to let it go and get on with your life. No kidding. 
Andy Velez

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2010, 05:33:23 PM »
Thanks a lot for your very fast answer!
I will try to forget my fears and this situation and to go on living normally again.
I am glad that I could ask an expert like you. It is no evidence to ask an expert in such a short time. So I thank you and RapidRod very much!!! You're good men!

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2010, 08:59:35 PM »
You're welcome. Now, on with your life!

Cheers.
Andy Velez

Offline stew_man

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2010, 06:39:44 AM »
Hi,

I was having a new risky encounter with another man. A week later I developped a rash on may face, but nothing on the chestarea. I didn't feel well that same day, but actually didn't have fever too.
So my question: Is it possible to have this rash only on the face and nothing on the trunk?
And is there something you can tell me about this rash? appearance?

Thanks!!

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2010, 09:26:52 AM »
What do you mean by a new risky encounter? When asking a question you need to be very specific about what occured in order to get an informed response.
Andy Velez

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2010, 10:45:41 AM »
Hi,

Well my partner gave me handjob and used his saliva as lubrificator, but there was visibly blood in it. It was really red.  He has a lot op ulcers and inflammated areas in his his mouth.
I would be very glad if you could answer me the may qestion about the rash as you are experts in this. You have propably seen a lot of people during seroceonversion, I  would like to know if it happens that a person only has rash on the face. Not that my fear is causing my acne  on the face. There are some very little points with red around, but some big raised spots too.

Offline stew_man

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2010, 10:48:04 AM »
And yes, I didn't fell well that one day when the rash came, but no fever. Does fever usually come with the rash? Does one just well one day not very good. Or are my nerves playing with me?

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2010, 10:52:54 AM »
Here at AIDSMEDS we do not talk about symptoms. There ARE no set HIV symptoms. Other illnesses mimic each and every symptom of Acute Retroviral Syndome. And many people get no symptoms at all.

But you can't get HIv from a handjob. Saliva is NOT infectious. Even with visible blood. No matter what spin you put on it, no noe has become infected through a handjob, in the history of the pandemic. You are not going to be the first.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Offline stew_man

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2010, 11:00:38 AM »
Yeah I fully understand your reasons.
 But only if you could tell me if a rash can only be on the face or not (or usually), I would be very thankfull.

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2010, 11:15:08 AM »
I cannot answer your question, as I have never, in my twenty years of dealing with the vitus and those who have it, encountered an HIV rash in real life. There are, I am sure, photos on the web.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Offline stew_man

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2010, 02:36:58 PM »
Welll there is a lot of information on the internet, but are they all reliable?

Offline stew_man

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2010, 02:50:51 PM »
Is there really no risk? Sure for that?
Is there really noone here who knows something about the rash during ARS?

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2010, 03:00:29 PM »
Stew,

There's really no risk in what you describe. None whatsoever.

Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect. Any hiv in the blood in his saliva would have been inactive.

The rash that sometimes accompanies hiv infection rarely appears on the face. It's usually on the torso. It is not raised or itchy; it's more like the rash that appears in meningitis. Why would you have the hiv rash when you did not have a risk?

Here's what you need to know in order to remain hiv negative:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER ANYTHING YOU HAVE BROUGHT TO THE FORUM, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2010, 03:22:01 PM »
Thanks for your reply Ann, you were a great help for me!!! :)
Thanks for the work you're doing here!

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Re: In contact with Hiv
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2010, 03:43:34 PM »
Stew,

You're welcome. Now get on with your life and remember to always use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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