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Re: Incident
« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2011, 03:59:22 PM »
Yes, you could test positive at 22 days. However, assuming you test negative for a conclusive negative result you need to test at 3 months after the most recent unprotected intercourse.

There is nothing HIV specific about the symptoms you are reporting.

Good luck with you test(s).
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Re: Incident
« Reply #51 on: June 28, 2011, 04:45:34 PM »
Today I tested and it's been 31 days since my incident.  I did the rapid antigen test in Ontario, Canada. The nurse that did it, said there would be no way that this test would detect after 4.5 weeks. She also performed the entire test in front of me and after she poured the solution on the window screen thingy, she didn't even wait 5seconds prior to tossing it in the deposable  box saying it was negative. Based on pervious tests and my understandings, I thought she would let it sit for a few seconds, or a minute, and make sure a partial second dot didn't appear or a faint dot. She didn't even look close at it, saw one dot literally within 2seconds and tossed it. I was very upset, because I drove an hour to get the test. I honestly felt she provided me with false information. She said she didn't want to even do the test because she said the test is so sensitive that it could test positive because of my herpes and not because of hiv. I'm now more upset than I was......  any opinions? Would the rapid test work within 3 seconds? I'm not exaggerating at all, she poured the solution on, the one blue dot appeared and she said, one dot, it's negative and tossed it....

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« Reply #52 on: June 28, 2011, 04:56:10 PM »
Possible,

You are over-testing. Stop it. As I told you before, the earliest you should test is at six weeks.

If you continue to ignore our advice and come back with more questions and fretting because you ignored that advice, I'm going to give you a time out. I have a feeling the nurse is just as frustrated with you as we are.

I cannot possibly comment on the procedures the nurse used because 1. I wasn't there 2. I don't know which test was used so I do not know that test's procedure and 3. in your agitated state, I'm not sure I can trust your judgement on how much time actually elapsed.

Stop testing ever few days and wait for your six week test. If that is also negative - and I suspect it will be - then you are highly unlikely to go on to test positive when you confirm at three months.

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Re: Incident
« Reply #53 on: June 29, 2011, 03:19:41 PM »
I realize i'm a disaster, i'm sorry.

I  am going out of town for just over a few weeks and I need to test before I leave town so that i can try and relax on my trip. At that point, I will be  three days short of the 6 week mark...does anyone know how accurate the test is at that point? Plus, I just got herpes so would this change the accuracy of a 6 week test anyways? I know it would't change the accuracy of a 12 week test, just wondering about the 6. This will be my last questions. Thank you so much, you all really make a difference and have helped me immensely.

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« Reply #54 on: June 29, 2011, 03:57:04 PM »
Possible,

We've already told you that having a new herpes infection would not make any difference to your test results.

A nearly six week negative would not be likely to change when you confirm at the three month point.

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Incident
« Reply #55 on: June 30, 2011, 05:34:59 PM »
Would dye from an MRI influence test results if done right after?

The fact that I have herpes and encephalitis is scaring me beyond anything... I feel like their is no way I don't have HIV.

I'm so scared.

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Re: Incident
« Reply #56 on: June 30, 2011, 05:42:29 PM »
No, they would not skewer result. Fortunately fears and doubts aren't facts. With your previous negative result we expect you will continue to test negative.
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Re: Incident
« Reply #57 on: July 05, 2011, 09:52:18 AM »
I was told the rapid test is 95% at 5 weeks, is this true? What would be the reason  someone would take longer than the 6 week mark to test positive? If someone still had symptoms at 5 weeks, would it indicate they wouldn't test positive yet due to the body not having control over the virus yet?

As always, thank you for helping me through this difficult time.


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« Reply #58 on: July 05, 2011, 10:42:43 AM »
Possible,

The people who might take a little longer to seroconvert and test positive are those who are on chemotherapy for cancer, on anti-rejection drugs following organ transplant, or people who have been injecting street drugs, every day, for years.

Although most people will test positive by six weeks, the window period remains at three months to catch the relatively rare person who takes slightly longer than six weeks. I fully expect the window period to become six weeks sometime in the next few years.

It already IS six weeks in some places like Massachusetts where only fourth generation duo tests are permitted to be used. However, even the older generation tests will normally detect antibodies by six weeks. As far as I'm aware, generations one and two are no longer manufactured and are therefore no longer in use. 

The illness that some people experience is not a reaction to the virus itself. It's a reaction to the process the body goes through while producing antibodies. People will normally test positive within a few - say around four or five - days of becoming ill, if the illness is indeed seroconversion illness.

We really, really, REALLY do not expect your nearly six week test result to change when you confirm at three months. So chill out.

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« Reply #59 on: July 06, 2011, 05:35:31 PM »
Today I tested negative. I was 3 days shy of the six week mark for my unprotected sex and I was only at 5 weeks since I poked myself with the needles. The guy administering the tests said that at the 5 week mark, they would most likely (95%) see some type of a reaction on the rapid blood test. I've been feeling better for just over a week and my temperature is back to what it normally is and has been for about 6 days now.Hopefully if I was sick from being infected, it would have shown up.  I"m really hoping I can relax on my trip and forget about it for now. Thanks to everyone for the continuos support.

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« Reply #60 on: July 06, 2011, 06:42:32 PM »
Given your inclination to worry, you should re-test at 13 weeks for the inevitable negative result. And yes, I do expect you to continue to test negative.

Have a good trip.
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« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2011, 03:30:11 AM »
I can't sleep, and I am super upset again....

A few days into my trip, my glands behind my ears started to really hurt, and were big. After a day or so I got a really sore throat. The glands by my ears feel better but I also have a sore lump in my neck but at the back. I didn't even know there were glands there, but it feels just like a sore sensitive round gland.  Its not at the front, under my cheek bone, but close to the back of my neck (looking at me from behind).  I'm all freaked again because my test was only 5 weeks from the potential dirty needles....  Other than the sore throat and weird mild mild pain from the glands hurting, I feel fine. I am just shocked by the odd round gland in my neck which I have never had before. Normally when my glands are sore, its the ones around my cheek line.... Needless to say, i'm horrified again.

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« Reply #62 on: July 12, 2011, 03:43:38 AM »
A better way to describe the swollen gland is that it is located close to the base of my skull.

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« Reply #63 on: July 12, 2011, 07:26:39 AM »
Possible,

What you're describing sounds more like a knotted muscle than a gland. Stress, tension and worry can do that to you - I often get painful lumps like that myself when I'm uptight about something or sometimes when I've slept with my head in an awkward position. Given your freaked out state, it wouldn't surprise me in the least that this is what you're dealing with.

Knock it off about "dirty" needles. No testing center is going to be re-using needles. You don't need to test over this - it's nothing more than your imagination running wild.

The only thing you need to test over is the unprotected intercourse. You tested negative for that at nearly six weeks and I do not expect that result to change when you confirm at three months.

We're not here to hold your hand every time you feel a new twinge, headache, sore throat or bump. You WILL end up with that Time Out I've already warned you about if you don't refrain from this constant posting about symptoms.

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Re: Incident
« Reply #64 on: July 18, 2011, 06:53:55 PM »
I really am so sorry that I struggle so much with this, and I am seeing someone to help me figure out my mental madness...


I need to clarify that even if someone contacted multiple std's within a weekend.... and you're body was exposed to all of them at the same time, HIV would still most likely show up by 6 week mark, even with it trying to handle other infections? No matter what I am getting tested at the end of the window period but I would like to know if this could be a plausible situation when someone may take longer than the 6 weeks to test pos...

Thanks.

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« Reply #65 on: July 19, 2011, 08:31:12 AM »
You continue to make this way more complicated than it needs to be. Even if you had acquired other STDs, they would not affect HIV transmission showing up within 4-6 weeks after an exposure as happens with the overwhelming majority.
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« Reply #66 on: July 20, 2011, 02:19:28 PM »
And no medial drugs or pain killers or prescriptions/treatment would interfere with the rapid tests? Is it possible that someone wouldn't react to the rapid test and require a western blot test in order to determine their status. I've only used rapid tests.  I am trying so hard to hold it together. My throat has been killing me for 2.5 weeks now, and I can't stop thinking it's connected....

 

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« Reply #67 on: July 20, 2011, 02:31:13 PM »
In Ontario, we are using the third generation tests.

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« Reply #68 on: July 20, 2011, 02:47:39 PM »
See your doctor about your sore throat. It has nothing to do with HIV. 

At 13 weeks all generations of tests will be reliable.

No, any medications you maybe taking would not skewer the accuracy of your HIV test.

You are on the verge of getting a Time Out here. Your worrying is so far over the line and unnecessary. We continue to expect a negative for you at 13 weeks.
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« Reply #69 on: July 20, 2011, 03:16:27 PM »
k i'll calm it down....

a six week test on a third generation test still 95% chance it would show up?


Thanks so much to everyone. I'm clearly nuts, and I am seeking psychological help and everyone on here has saved me....

You have no idea.

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« Reply #70 on: July 20, 2011, 03:39:29 PM »
Thanks Ann,

Are my symptoms pretty certain that I have it? encephalitis? vomiting, steady nausea, etc?



Those absolutely are not in anyway HIV specifc symptoms.
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« Reply #71 on: July 20, 2011, 03:41:14 PM »
k i'll calm it down....

a six week test on a third generation test still 95% chance it would show up?


Thanks so much to everyone. I'm clearly nuts, and I am seeking psychological help and everyone on here has saved me....

You have no idea.

It would be very unlikely for you to test positive after receiving a 3rd generation test negative at 6 weeks.

You do need to get a grip. We are not going to indulge you indefinitely in these anxious back and forths. I certainly expect you to test negative again at 13 weeks.

Corrected. Sorry for that error.
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« Reply #72 on: July 20, 2011, 09:04:22 PM »
When I did the blood test for herpes, it came back negative, even though the doc said I most likely would test positive because the symptoms were present.

When I went to a doctor today about my sore throat pain, I didn't mention anything to do with HIV and she said it shouldn't be lasting this long if it is viral and told me to try allergy medication and if still present in a week to come back and will investigate further. I asked, what does that mean...she casually replied, saying "then we would do blood work, checking for mono, hiv. I didn't say anything, but it's causing me a great deal of stress, given that I tested neg for herpes when i should have tested positive. So in my crazy mind, I'm thinking it's happening all over again...and that I will be one of the rare ones to test pos after 6 weeks.  I just feel like herpes hit my body hard, and I was sick with that, and now that my body dealt with that, I'm going through it all over again with hiv.....

I'm trying to explain my logic, even though i know it seems stupid. Please don't band me. I don't have anyone to talk to about this.

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« Reply #73 on: July 20, 2011, 09:33:41 PM »
I also get confused with the fact that when people take PEP they take longer to test positive. I took 10 days of herpes medication because it was my first outbreak and worry its delaying my positive results past the 6 week mark.


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« Reply #74 on: July 21, 2011, 07:02:10 AM »
Possible,

Herpes medication (acyclovir) is not PEP and will have no effect on hiv or your test results.

I'm giving you that time out you have been repeatedly warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

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« Reply #75 on: August 18, 2011, 03:09:50 PM »
It has been 12 weeks, and I tested HIV negative today!! I found out I did have/have mono. Having mono won't influence my HIV test results, correct?

Thanks to everyone for all the support, it has been a challenging journey for me.


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« Reply #76 on: August 18, 2011, 03:17:56 PM »
That's happy news about your negative result.

And no, having mono would not affect the accuracy of your test result.

Get on with your life.

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« Reply #77 on: August 31, 2011, 06:27:58 PM »
I am learning about herpes because it seems to be really influencing my health since I got it. I constantly have symptoms throughout my entire body ( butt,legs,groin,glands) I read that people with a compromised immune systems may experience full body effects from herpes. I'm so scared that I contracted both HIV and herpes at the same time, but my body is only trying to handle the herpes which it isn't able to do perhaps because of hiv. Basically, I'm worried that my three month 13 week test result isn't accurate and that because of my circumstances  I should re test at 6months?

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« Reply #78 on: August 31, 2011, 06:38:36 PM »
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« Reply #79 on: September 01, 2011, 09:30:55 AM »
Discuss your herpes issues with your doctor. They have nothing to do with HIV. You are HIV negative. Period. End of that story.

We are not going to indulge you in another round of exchanges here about HIV. I am giving you a 56 day Time Out. HIV is not your problem. Stop the drama and get on with your life. If you can't do that then get some professional help about your HIV issues. We can't help you with that in this setting. Don't make the mistake of trying to get around the ban by creating a new name. We will spot that right off and it will get you banned permanently from this site.
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