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Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« on: June 25, 2011, 01:43:29 PM »
Hi. I am a 32 year old male. Early this morning I engaged in foreplay (no penetration or oral sex) with my HIV+ partner. His precum rubbed on my buttocks on which there was a pimple I had scratched an hour before while in the shower. I am concerned over this even and am considering if I was placed at any risk for HIV transmission through that sort of contact. Please advise. Thank you.

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2011, 01:54:46 PM »
You are worrying needlessly. HIV is a fragile virus and is not transmitted in that manner.

The ONLY confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. Use condoms consistently for those activities and you will be well protected.

No need for testing over this incident.
Andy Velez

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2011, 01:57:48 PM »
Thank you for the prompt response and the information provided. Very grateful.
anthony

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2011, 02:00:19 PM »
You're welcome, Anthony.

On with your life...
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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2011, 05:11:25 AM »
Thank you for all the work you do!
I've yet another concern. Yesterday morning my poz partner began rubbing his penis in my anal area and I had shaved an hour before in the shower. Later on at night, I noticed a small shaving cut which produced a small tiny amount of blood when I applied pressure. I am concerned that the precum he produced may have rubbed itself into the cut when he was applying pressure into the skin/cut leading to infection. Does this exposure warrant PEP? Also, if there is any literature which I can be directed to for education. Once again, thank you.

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2011, 05:29:00 AM »
Thank you for all the work you do!
I've yet another concern. Yesterday morning my poz partner began rubbing his penis in my anal area and I had shaved an hour before in the shower. Later on at night, I noticed a small shaving cut which produced a small tiny amount of blood when I applied pressure. I am concerned that the precum he produced may have rubbed itself into the cut when he was applying pressure into the skin/cut leading to infection. Does this exposure warrant PEP? Also, if there is any literature which I can be directed to for education. Once again, thank you.


No Greek, this isn't a risk situation. HIV is transmitted via unprotected anal and vaginal sex, by sharing contaminated injecting equipment such as needles and syringes and in some cases from HIV positive mother to her unborn or nursing infant.

It is NOT transmitted by getting pre-cum on a tiny cut. Not even if that tiny cut is on or near your man pussy.

Please take the time to read our Welcome Thread and follow the links to our lessons on HIV transmission.

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2011, 01:51:21 PM »
Thank you for responding MTD.

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2011, 02:03:23 PM »
Out of curiousity...even if cuts bleed and precum gets rubbed into them, there are no risks?

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2011, 02:32:07 PM »
Greek,

No risk.

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2011, 03:15:54 PM »
Thank you Ann.
Anthony

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2011, 08:03:44 PM »
Hi. I am wondering if anal secretions outside of the body...on a small fingernail cut can pose any risk? Also, at beginning of relationship unknowingly to us both my poz partner performed oral sex on me while being positive for syphilis. Any risk there? Thank you for taking the time to respond.

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2011, 08:15:10 PM »
HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions; therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2011, 09:33:25 PM »
Hi. I am wondering if anal secretions outside of the body...on a small fingernail cut can pose any risk? Also, at beginning of relationship unknowingly to us both my poz partner performed oral sex on me while being positive for syphilis. Any risk there? Thank you for taking the time to respond.


As Rodney notes, HIV cannot replicate outside of it's host. Anal secretions outside of the body do not pose a risk.

As for syphilis, we cannot answer your questions. We are an HIV specific website and do not provide advice on STDs other than HIV. You should consult a physician about that.

MtD

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2011, 03:07:39 AM »
Thank you both. I was more worried about anal secretions than precum getting inside my cut as I had read. That higher concentrations of hiv, even more so than in blood, are found in anal secretions. I am somewhat comforted and will have to wrestle with irrationality on this matter. Thank you once again.

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2011, 08:03:25 AM »
Greek,

While we don't normally go into specifics about other STIs, I will say that if you've been exposed to syphilis, you need to be tested for syphilis. Syphilis is MUCH more easily transmitted than hiv and only requires skin to skin contact with a syphilis sore or rash.

As the sores (chancres) that primary syphilis produces are painless, they often go unnoticed. Syphilis shares a three month window testing period for a conclusive negative result.

Syphilis aside, you have NOT had a risk for hiv infection.

Ann
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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2011, 04:05:43 PM »
Deeply appreciated Ann. Thank you.
Anthony

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2011, 01:02:02 PM »
This morning my poz partner was performing oral sex on me without a condom, including deep throat.  After we finished, I noticed I had a couple of lacerations/cuts below the head of my penis possibly from his teeth rubbing on the skin. Am I at risk? Is this an exposure that would warrant PEP? Thank you.

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2011, 01:14:42 PM »
Forgot to add that my partner's viral load is undetectable and cd4 in the 700 range on medication for one month.

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2011, 01:57:10 PM »
Receiving oral is one of the most common of sexual activities. In the entire history of the epidemic there has never been a single confirmed case of transmission to a guy through his getting a blowjob. It's safe to say you are not going to make history by becoming the first, even with a pimple or a sore on your penis.

You are worrying needlessly. There is no need for further concern.

The only confirmed means of transmission sexually are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. As long as you and your partner consistently use condoms for intercourse you will be well protected. It really is that simple.

Andy Velez

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2011, 04:30:14 PM »
Thank you Andy.

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2011, 06:44:45 PM »
I was wondering  if i could get some ideas over an incident this morning. I was attempting to bottom for my bf who is hiv + but on ART and undetectable. The condom broke and im not sure but i think the head of his penis may have been inside me and he does precum at times. Would this warrant Post exposure prophylaxis? Thank you you in advance for responses.
A

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2011, 06:59:04 PM »
I cannot believe you had to post on a forum and ask that question.

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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2011, 07:41:40 PM »
Greek,

No. His viral load is undetectable and you're more likely to find a bag full of money lying on your doorstep tomorrow morning than you are to end up positive over this brief incident. You'd be wise to test, but as the negative partner of a positive person you should be testing periodically anyway.

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2011, 09:45:36 PM »
Dear Ann,

Thank you for your response. Greatly appreciated.
Rapid...forgive me if I have offended you. Certainly not my intention.
-greek

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2011, 09:45:28 AM »
Greek,

You're welcome. While a wee bit of anxiety is understandable, the situation certainly does not warrant PEP.

Please make sure you two are using condoms correctly so you don't have these scares going forward. Make sure you both read through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use them correctly and with confidence.

The two leading causes of condom breakage are....

1. Not making sure there is no air bubble in the tip, particularly when using condoms with a reservoir tip because they're more prone to developing a bubble while putting them on. Pinch the tip as you roll it down and then give it a stroke from tip to base, while looking at the tip. If there's air, you'll see it when you do this. If there IS air, simply roll it back up and start again.

This incident you're worried about sounds like it was caused by an air bubble. Think of trying to force a balloon through a small hole - it's gonna pop.

When he's topping you, you can do the "stroke test" yourself before he enters you to make sure there is no air bubble. It only takes a second to do and will save you hours of uncertainty.

2. Not using enough lube, particularly for anal. Even if you're using pre-lubed condoms, you need to be using plenty of water-based lube.

You can also do your bit with lube when he's topping you. You can be the one who lubes him up and you can do the "stroke test" while you're doing this. Use these two actions as part of your fore-play repertoire.


As I said yesterday, as the negative partner of a positive person, you should be testing periodically. Provided you're not getting into the habit of having full-on unprotected intercourse, you can fully expect your tests to come back negative. I had a negative partner for over eight years and his always came back negative - because we used condoms consistently.

Don't sweat this brief incident. His undetectable status will protect you in a situation like this.

Ann



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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2012, 01:31:45 PM »
Hey guys, needing some insight on an issue. This morning i was engaging in frottage:rubbing the head of my penis on my partners anus. Precum acted as lube and for about 3 seconds the head of my penis sort of slipped in. As mentioned before, my partner is undetectable. I am uncircumcised. Should i proceed with prophylaxis? Thank you in advance.
Anthony

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2012, 01:57:13 PM »
If you are sure that it was only that brief then I would say PEP is unnecessary.

Given that it was a single and very brief incident and that he is undetectable this "dipping" incident hardly qualifies as a risk. You can if you wish get tested at 3 months just for your peace of mind to confirm with what I expect will be a negative result.
Andy Velez

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« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2012, 03:22:05 PM »
Greatly appreciated. Thanks Andy.

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Re: Precum on pimple & PEP treatment
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2012, 03:52:02 PM »
You're welcome. I expect you to come out of this ok.
Andy Velez

 


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