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Offline wooffman99

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Required interview with state health department
« on: April 07, 2010, 09:59:52 PM »
I was notified today that I have to go in for an interview with the State Health Dept, in Indiana. I am not looking forward to this. Any pointers? What can I expect?
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2010, 10:18:36 PM »
they'll probably tell you that you have a communicable (sexually transmitted) serious (possibly terminal) disease that will need treatment. They'll also talk to you about informing partners. Perhaps they may ask for names of people that you have had sexual contact with so that they can notify those people that they need to be tested as they have come into contact with an anonymous person infected by hiv (that would be you). (that's the procedure I went through in NC with an STD, and in OH and SC for having HIV)
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Offline skeebo1969

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2010, 10:28:34 PM »


   I had one after I was diagnosed.  It really wasn't a big deal.  They wanted to know who I had been having sex with, but I didn't give them any names.  I told them I wanted to notify them myself, figured it would go over better coming from me seeing that both were my ex-wives.  You really have nothing to worry about, they won't come out with handcuffs or anything drastic like that.
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Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2010, 10:42:59 PM »
Yus, sounds like straight forward contact tracing is the order of the day here.

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2010, 10:44:45 PM »
I live in NC and a representative actually came to my house to speak with me.  It was very straightforward and she was very pleasant.  We talked about her role and she indicated that she goes out mainly for those who are uninformed and to help them with getting treatment, if necessary, and to discuss the myths associated with HIV and other conditions.

She did ask about former sex partners.
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Offline tednlou2

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2010, 12:22:08 AM »
I live in NC and a representative actually came to my house to speak with me.  It was very straightforward and she was very pleasant.  We talked about her role and she indicated that she goes out mainly for those who are uninformed and to help them with getting treatment, if necessary, and to discuss the myths associated with HIV and other conditions.

She did ask about former sex partners.

Wow, I'm glad this hasn't happened to me...yet at least.  I'm wondering if you knew this lady was coming to your house, or did she just show up?  What would have happened if someone else was at your house who didn't know your status?  They would have been very curious what this lady wanted.  Was it your idea to meet at your house? 

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2010, 12:59:47 AM »


  Gee Teddy, we ain't talking about the KGB here.  Relax buddy...  if friends are that nosy you can always tell them to go fly a kite! :)
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2010, 01:03:06 AM »
I wouldn't sweat it...for their records.

Is this more popular in certain parts of the country?  When I tested poz no one said boo (in NY) and everyon I have asked who has tested positive in the last 5-6 years that I know in NJ/NY/CT have never been contacted.

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2010, 01:25:52 AM »
I'm wondering if you knew this lady was coming to your house, or did she just show up?
in NC, OH, and SC, I had the option to meet them or them to meet me.

This is a common practice for all STDs, not just HIV. It's one of the myraid ways to try to lessen the impact of these diseases on a society by finding and treating the infected, and warning the uninfected about prevention methods.

Frankly after the runaround I was getting from the York County SC health dpt, I made the agent drive the 20 miles to my house, where she had to talk to me on the front porch over the sound of the barking dogs. :D It only seemed fair since they didn't pay for my time or gas when I had driven over to their office and the agent wasn't even in the day we had set up the appointment. >:( Of course, as I've known I was poz for nearly 20 yrs, been on meds 18, and got my original diagnosis in Ohio, it was all a waste of her time. When she started to tell me about how serious HIV was, and I cut her off by telling her I knew very well how serious it was as it had already killed most of my friends and I had buried two partners because of it, the look on her face was priceless. The moral to this story is to never waste Leatherman's valuable time ;)  :D
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Offline tednlou2

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2010, 01:39:27 AM »

  Gee Teddy, we ain't talking about the KGB here.  Relax buddy...  if friends are that nosy you can always tell them to go fly a kite! :)

Teddy is actually my legal name, but people only ever use Teddy with affection  :-*..lol.  I realize it probably is a good thing.  I just had thoughts of someone showing up at my door with a house-full of guests.  I have some friends who would never ask anything personal and others who want to know how much I make, how much I paid for the house, how many times a day I poop, whether I spit or swallow.  They would be the ones bending their ears to listen.

I'm glad to hear it seems to be something arranged and not where they just show up.

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2010, 01:46:00 AM »
Teddy is actually my legal name, but people only ever use Teddy with affection  :-*..lol.  I realize it probably is a good thing.  I just had thoughts of someone showing up at my door with a house-full of guests.  I have some friends who would never ask anything personal and others who want to know how much I make, how much I paid for the house, how many times a day I poop, whether I spit or swallow.  They would be the ones bending their ears to listen.

I'm glad to hear it seems to be something arranged and not where they just show up.

Contact tracing is a delicate business. It's really only successful with a willing victim client, so just turning up or being hard assed is not the best way forward. Health care workers usually go out of their way to be kind and understanding in these situations.

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2010, 07:35:48 AM »
It's a consequence of becoming infected. I ignored the health departments request to come in for a little sit down after I tested positive. That was until they informed me the sheriff's department would be only too happy to provide me with transportation. After several hours of being water boarded, I still refused to give up the names of my partners. I contacted them myself after copious amounts of grog. I did think the health department sky writing "HIV infected" over my house was a bit over the top.

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2010, 10:26:32 AM »
Hello Gang,

Forgive me if I am missing something when reading these posts. Should I expect to be contacted by anyone? I live in NJ and was under the impression that only my ID doctor who tested me and my insurance company was aware of my diagnosis. I am not on state or federal assistance. Thanks for any
input. Kev

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2010, 10:40:32 AM »
How do these people come across that you are positive.  Is the medical history not a privacy issue at all?
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2010, 10:44:53 AM »
As soon as you have a confirmatory Western Blot they are informed that you tested positive.  Then they begin trying to contact you every day.  I dodged their calls for a while because I didn't want to disclose to anyone (even someone who already knew).

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2010, 10:49:20 AM »
I live in NJ and was under the impression that only my ID doctor who tested me and my insurance company was aware of my diagnosis. I am not on state or federal assistance.
when you tested HIV positive, your name was reported to the state health dpt, so that the CDC can track the amount of people in the US infected which in turn helps the federal gov't decide how to best allocate resource monies to the states most in need.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/reporting.htm

Surveillance data on HIV infections provide a more complete picture of the HIV/AIDS epidemic and the need for prevention and care services than does the picture provided by AIDS data alone. As of April 2008, all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and 5 dependent areas—American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands—use the same confidential name-based reporting system to collect HIV and AIDS data.


here's a link about the general issue of STD contact tracing http://std.about.com/od/prevention/f/contacttracing.htm which is often used for Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis. TB management also includes contact tracing.
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2010, 10:51:45 AM »
Hello Gang,

Forgive me if I am missing something when reading these posts. Should I expect to be contacted by anyone? I live in NJ and was under the impression that only my ID doctor who tested me and my insurance company was aware of my diagnosis. I am not on state or federal assistance. Thanks for any
input. Kev

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=32109.msg394128#msg394128

Seems like only the redneck states harass people.  I've never, ever been contacted either (New York and Pennsylvania)
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Offline Rev. Moon

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2010, 11:00:27 AM »
As soon as you have a confirmatory Western Blot they are informed that you tested positive.  Then they begin trying to contact you every day.  I dodged their calls for a while because I didn't want to disclose to anyone (even someone who already knew).

Did you ever answer their calls?  Be careful, I hear that in MS they still use devices like the Pear of Anguish to extract confessions from teh gays.

I don't think that they ever attempted to reach me, but I wonder whether this practice takes place in Miami. They'd be too busy with all the new infections that this city has on a yearly basis.
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2010, 11:11:45 AM »
I did actually.  I remember being so weak I could barely walk because of the anemia and walking into the guys office after sitting in a waiting room with sick kids while I had a tiny CD4 and later considering myself lucky for not catching anything airborne while I was in there.  It was annoying considering I didn't have anything of note to tell him.  I also had to go back once or twice.

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2010, 11:12:18 AM »
Seems like only the redneck states harass people.
They'd be too busy with all the new infections that this city has on a yearly basis.
I'm wondering if population vs case amount isn't the reason some states contact pozzies personally and others don't, rather than the color-shading of their necks.  ;) Regardless though, never fear, your name is in big brother's database. :D
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2010, 11:39:12 AM »
which in turn helps the federal gov't decide how to best allocate resource monies to the states most in need.
I checked on this right after I moved to SC in Sept 09 (though I can't find the link right now), but once you're reported in one state your "case" always stays with that state. In other words, because I was first reported thru OH, Ohio will always count me as a case of HIV (and AIDS) in Stark County for determining their resources. Though I now live in York County, SC, South Carolina doesn't count me when they list amount of HIV+ people in that state. That's why it was a total waste of everyone's time for the SC health dpt to visit me. (that whole incident was due to the overzealousness of the newly hired case manager in charge of my case) OH will get more federal resources because my count stays in that state, and SC will not be able to up their count and isn't eligible for extra federal monies because of my relocation to this state. Of course, my ASO can list me as a client and an HIV case, which results in the fuzzy numbers of actual HIV/AIDS cases vs CDC listed amounts.
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2010, 11:43:58 AM »
http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=32109.msg394128#msg394128
Seems like only the redneck states harass people.  I've never, ever been contacted either (New York and Pennsylvania)

Thanks for the link Phil, I was gonna say, Christ its 2010 for god sakes... Being new to all of this has taken a lot of adjusting along with some paranoia. All I would need is someone showing up at my door LOL.

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2010, 11:54:52 AM »
when you tested HIV positive, your name was reported to the state health dpt, so that the CDC can track the amount of people in the US infected which in turn helps the federal gov't decide how to best allocate resource monies to the states most in need.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/reporting.htm

Surveillance data on HIV infections provide a more complete picture of the HIV/AIDS epidemic and the need for prevention and care services than does the picture provided by AIDS data alone. As of April 2008, all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and 5 dependent areas—American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands—use the same confidential name-based reporting system to collect HIV and AIDS data.


here's a link about the general issue of STD contact tracing http://std.about.com/od/prevention/f/contacttracing.htm which is often used for Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis. TB management also includes contact tracing.

Thank You as well Leatherman. I just saw your post. Very informative info.

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2010, 01:35:27 PM »
I don't think it is for bad.  This country now starts to accept pozzies from outside world leave alone of its own.  May be they might need to do something helpfully.  So respect their invitation and get interview.   ;D
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2010, 02:08:06 PM »
name based reporting started about 1990, so this has been going on with HIV for 20 yrs. STD contact tracing/partner notification has been going on even longer (since the 40s). Even if it is a bit intrusive and has privacy issues, this technique has been proven to help quell the spread of these diseases. Plus it's a sight better than in the early nineties (in 1992, even after tracking was implemented) when there was talk of interment camps :o as a means to squash the spread of HIV.

http://www.yuckabee.com/hiv.html
It was back in 1992 that Mike Huckabee made the suggestion of putting HIV patients into special detention centers. Huckabee said that little attention should be paid to the "civil rights" of people with AIDS.

I found an interesting article from 95 discussing HIV partner notification under the Clinton administration. It seems back then states were just as hit-n-miss as today as to how they actually conducted contact tracing procedures. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1272/is_n2596_v123/ai_16399937/ "Why the opposition to AIDS contact tracing?"
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2010, 02:19:35 PM »
Philadelphia didn't do name based reporting until late 2005.
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2010, 02:44:55 PM »
I don't think it is for bad.  This country now starts to accept pozzies from outside world leave alone of its own.  May be they might need to do something helpfully.  So respect their invitation and get interview.   ;D

I agree that that offering counseling can educate many who do not have access to the resources such as this site etc. I am sure they are not trying to segregate us based on our status.

Kev72, I can understand being new to this does take adjusting and there is sometimes a stigma one feels when getting used to the fact that we have this attached to us. It goes away in time. I can remember going to an out of the way Labcorp just because I did not want the gals that draw my blood locally to know my status. Imagine? That's how paranoid I was....

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2010, 05:09:02 PM »
I live in Indiana and was never contacted, unless this is something they've started doing after '89.  Also, when I lived in Michigan and had a couple STD's, I was never contacted either. 
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2010, 05:15:08 PM »
Wow, I'm glad this hasn't happened to me...yet at least.  I'm wondering if you knew this lady was coming to your house, or did she just show up?  What would have happened if someone else was at your house who didn't know your status?  They would have been very curious what this lady wanted.  Was it your idea to meet at your house? 

She called and we made an appointment.  I do, however, think she had tried to just "drop by" at first but could never catch up with me.  It wasn't my idea for her to come to my house but I certainly didn't want to take the time out of my day to go to her office either.  That aside, it was very straightforward and she certainly didn't grill me.
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2010, 05:21:52 PM »
I agree that that offering counseling can educate many who do not have access to the resources such as this site etc. I am sure they are not trying to segregate us based on our status.

The social worker that came to my house explained exactly why she was there and she said they come out for any type of STD, TB, etc. She also said that a main part of their program is to explain to people how their respective conditions can be transmitted and, (she said) most importantly, how they CANNOT be transmitted.  She said this was especially important in the lesser educated households.  I wasn't put off by the visit and she told me that I'd never hear from her again.  I haven't. 
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2010, 05:36:23 PM »
I was contacted by the local health lady(nurse) here in the county...she was very much more concerned about the possible TB issue  ( false positive )   which apparently   did not show the final negative retest..... she offered free meds and transport to a clinic....  i thanked her and declined.  she barely mentioned the HIV....
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2010, 06:11:57 PM »
Philadelphia didn't do name based reporting until late 2005.
in the footnote section
4.On October 18, 2002, Pennsylvania initiated confidential name-based HIV infection reporting in all areas except Philadelphia. Code-based reporting was implemented in Philadelphia in March 2004, and the switch to name-based reporting was made in October 2005.
http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparetable.jsp?cat=11&ind=559

I live in Indiana and was never contacted, unless this is something they've started doing after '89.
Indiana started name-based reporting in July 1988 (http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparetable.jsp?cat=11&ind=559) and they do do partner notifications for STDs (http://www.in.gov/isdh/23721.htm)

Michigan recently announced this about partner notification for STDs
Michigan will soon be using this Internet resource for STD partner notification forgonorrhea and chlamydia, joining the twelve states already online at www.inspot.org.
and has been doing STD partner notification since 1978
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(4vhksd4553n0yifuzuuoetfd))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=mcl-333-5114a

obviously many states give partner notification low priority and rarely do it, even though it's in the law; while others are very conscientious and do it with every case.
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2010, 06:39:33 PM »
iIndiana started name-based reporting in July 1988 (http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparetable.jsp?cat=11&ind=559) and they do do partner notifications for STDs (http://www.in.gov/isdh/23721.htm)

Michigan recently announced this about partner notification for STDs
Michigan will soon be using this Internet resource for STD partner notification forgonorrhea and chlamydia, joining the twelve states already online at www.inspot.org.
and has been doing STD partner notification since 1978
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(4vhksd4553n0yifuzuuoetfd))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=mcl-333-5114a

obviously many states give partner notification low priority and rarely do it, even though it's in the law; while others are very conscientious and do it with every case.

I didn't say I minded the "reporting," I was just never contacted in Indiana, nor Michigan, for either the HIV or the other STD's I had in the past.  Don't know why, don't really care.
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« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2010, 07:00:47 PM »
I didn't say I minded the "reporting," I was just never contacted in Indiana, nor Michigan, for either the HIV or the other STD's I had in the past.  Don't know why, don't really care.
Don't feel alone. I was diagnosed in 84 and wasn't contacted by the State until 2005 when I was in the ICU at OSU. They just brought a bunch of informational forms to advise me what types of programs were available and asked if there was anyone that I needed for them to contact wished me well and that was it. They did set up my SSI and Medicaid for me.

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« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2010, 07:31:34 PM »
Thanks to all of you for the info and the discussion. I go in tomorrow morning. With your help I'm ready. ;)
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« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2010, 02:53:36 PM »
They did set up my SSI and Medicaid for me.

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« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2010, 02:56:39 PM »
I'm sure if varies a great deal from state to state...here in NC I knew my name would go on a registry but no one told me someone from the Public Health Dept would be talking with me....and was still dealing with the diagnosis when I came home from work one day to find someone sitting in their car in front of my condo... Would have certainly prefered to have been contacted and an appointment set up...Needless to say I felt a bit ambushed--and can't believe people are generally very forthcoming about their sexual history and naming names and all that.....I did have to sign a form that I would get a TB test, not engage in unprotected sex and inform my partners of my status....
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« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2010, 06:53:05 PM »
It went fine. I had to sign a IN state form that I had been notified and talked to about my status. They wanted me to get a Hep A+B vaccine shot. (I have already) and schedule a TB test. Mostly to tell me to notify potential and past sexual partners that I am HIV+. She asked names but I told them I have already notified my partners since my last test. She gave me lots of advice and numbers of support groups and contacts. I am very glad it is over. I am also glad I went before they sent someone to my house.
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2010, 07:46:09 PM »
She asked names but I told them I have already notified my partners since my last test. She gave me lots of advice and numbers of support groups and contacts. I am very glad it is over.
Glad it went well for you and glad the rep had advice and contacts for you. Local support is always a good thing. ;) You might not need it now; but it helps to know who to contact when or if anything comes up.
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« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2010, 11:55:12 PM »
This scared the hell out of me when I was notified that I needed to talk with somone from the health department.  Part of the reason was that all I received was a basic letter that said something along the lines of "An issue has arisen regarding your health.  Please call this number blah blah blah" only a little more harrowing than that.  I couldn't imagine what in the hell they'd want to tell me since I already knew I was positive, so I daydreamed about having an untreatable strain and they had to break the news to me officially.  Of course, that was me being a hypochondriac.

They did mine over the phone.  The man was nice enough, asked me how I thought I contracted it (I fought the urge to say that I must have drank out of the same cup as someone who was positive) and then asked several invasive questions about my sex life and the people I may have put at risk.  I deflected most of them by just saying I was uncomfortable giving out names.

Other than that, it was painless.  I assumed it had to do with statistics, but I see from this thread that there's more to it than that.  On the flip side, having a job like the man who contacted me would be horrible in my estimation.  I wouldn't like to pry into someone's life while they were trying to deal with their new disease no matter what statistic was at stake.  Oh well.
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« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2010, 01:30:46 PM »
I posted about my and my partners situations with this a while back.  My interviewer from the health dept just showed up at one of my HIV appts one day, no warning, but she was very nice and it was no big deal.  My partner and I both live in VA but live 2 hours apart.  His was not so pleasant.

She insisted on coming to his house and insisted on names of who he had been with and etc.  By the time she left he called me and was scared to death and so upset.  He had given her my name and my # but told her I was the reason he had been tested anyway,  I found out first I was poz, then told him.  She still insisted on talking to me and kept saying we were part of an "investigation". 

She finally called me and I tried to be pleasant at first but then she started with this giving her names bull crap.  I told her I had already spoken with the H.D. and she said she needed further information for her "investigation". 

That just set me off.  I have insurance I have no ties with the H.D.  they aren't paying for anything for  me and I told her so.  I told her it was because of crap like this that people don't want to get tested and if she ever called me or my partner back again my lawyer will be contacting her and I would sue her for harassment.  I was actually alot more rude than what I am explaining here but the way I see it is,  its none of their damn business. We never heard from them again.

You should choose to answer what questions you want to and if they don't like it than f*&# 'em.

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2010, 07:43:24 PM »

You should choose to answer what questions you want to and if they don't like it than f*&# 'em.



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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2010, 07:46:43 PM »
Honestly after being diagnosed positive and having absolutely horrendous numbers, this required interview was the worst part of the entire process.

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« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2010, 08:03:50 PM »
this required interview was the worst part of the entire process.

I can imagine how you felt. The last thing I would need after hearing all the bad news is someone contacting me to schedule a mandatory meeting to discuss something that has hit me with such a blow already. I am still in the phase where I feel funny getting my blood work drawn or my RXs filled at my local pharmacy. Call me paranoid, but although its getting easier, it takes time.

I understand the need to educate people who do not have all the the access to information that some of us have here in the bigger cities or the internet for that matter, but I do not agree that it should be a mandatory thing. Maybe I will feel different as I adjust to the whole thing.


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« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2010, 01:18:51 PM »
It is pretty standard, each state has slightly different rules and regs, and even each county has different policies.   It is a requirement for your doctor to notify the state here in Florida, however the lab is typically the one that sends the information before the doctor even gets your results back. 

In my opinion, they are usually so far backlogged here that they don't make contact until weeks after you have found out and are not so effective and "tracking" anything.   Check with your particular state to find out exactly what is required of you.  I know that here you can sometimes get through it without a thought, have a pleasant conversation and learn something...or you can get stuck with an overzealous ass that thinks you are scum. I have had both for various "notifications" and urge you to file a complaint if you get the latter and not to let it get you down.  I spoke with one woman that even offered to meet me out at one of the local gay bars or coffee shops if I would feel more comfortable.  Those I'm afraid are few and far between down here.  Here in Florida they are required to ask you about your partners, but you are not required to tell them anything,  I personally opted to notify people myself when I tested poz and the people that I told were very thankful for my coming to them one on one.    That was unfortunately also the time I had a bad case worker that would come to my home while I was at work and pound on my door a few times a day until my dogs messed the house, threaten to come to my job if I didn't take time off work, etc.  When I finally told him that I notified all those I had come in contact with he didn't believe me and I eventually had to threaten to sue and complain to his supervisor. 

My favorite of course is when someone moves to a new state,  after having tested poz YEARS ago.  It is always fun to have someone from the state drop by to let you know you tested poz after your normal blood-work and want to contact your partners. I had one friend that had been poz for 10 years when he had a lady stop by.  He was quite amused and proceeded to sit her down and explain his sexual history for the past 10 years until she clued in, laughed, and went on her way.
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2010, 09:41:14 PM »
I noticed many mentioning the state of Indiana.  They must be very proactive.  I have a friend there who was contacted by the health dept and told someone he had sex with tested poz.  She met him in a parking lot and did a mouth swab test in the car and set up a blood test also.  It was good she made arrangements to meet him privately and also talked to him about counseling if he tested poz.  My friend had been in a relationship where they both used meth a lot and his former partner turned up poz.  Sadly, his former partner committed suicide after he tested poz.   

 

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2010, 10:24:30 PM »
WELL I KNOW THAT NO QUESTION IS A DUMB QUESTION BUT IM GONNA ASK ANYWAY, "HOW MANY TIMES ARE THE STATE DEPT OF HEALTH REQUIRED TO CONTACT US". I WAS CONTACTED ONLY ONE TIME AND THAT WAS THE DAY I WAS TOLD THAT I MAY BE INFECTED, WHICH I WAS BUT AFTER EVERYTHING WAS DONE, THEY NEVER BOTHERED ME AGAIN, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD THING TO LET THE STATE DEPT OF HEALTH THE NAMES OF PARTNERS THAT COULD BE INFECTED. THE INVESTIGATOR GAVE ME PROPS FOR NOT BEING SCARED TO MENTION THE NAMES BECAUSE LOTS OF PEOPLE RUN FROM THE QUESTION AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY SO MANY ARE INFECTED AND KEEP INFECTING OTHERS. SO DID I DO RIGHT OR WRONG IN GIVING THE NAMES?
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2010, 10:38:30 PM »
Weird, I lived in FL when I tested Poz, and I got a phone call, and that was about it. No asking of my sexual partners (granted, I had only one, and I was in a relationship with that person, who was the same person that gave me HIV), but it was pretty painless.
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2010, 02:45:56 PM »
Hello Gang,

Forgive me if I am missing something when reading these posts. Should I expect to be contacted by anyone? I live in NJ and was under the impression that only my ID doctor who tested me and my insurance company was aware of my diagnosis. I am not on state or federal assistance. Thanks for any
input. Kev

I live in NJ.  The health department sent a letter about 3-6 months after diagnosis and then some guy called me at work demanding my Social Security number... before he would tell me why he was calling.  After we got to at least his department I hung up and called the number in the letter. 

We then had a strange conversation -- entirely by phone -- in which there was very little content -- mainly a bunch of questions by him "you know what that means right"?  No effort at contact tracing.  No further contact.

Of course, if I were a little more pleasant when people call me out of nowhere and demand my social security number the discussion might have gone better.
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« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2010, 03:14:53 PM »
I didn't get contacted by anyone at all after I tested poz here in GA.  My doc told me that it would be reported to the health department and gave me a referral to a good ID doc and that's it.  My doctors didn't even discuss contacting former partners, although my husband was told that he should.
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« Reply #50 on: April 17, 2010, 04:59:18 PM »
Like HeckRaiser my phone rang 2-3 times a day from the Health Dept. When I finally answered it the rep "informed" me I was HIV+ (duh), and wanted phone#'s of those Ive had sex with in the last (I think) 6 months. I told him I didnt have any Ph#'s of those people/person. It was the truth, however im sure I sounded like a big 'ol skank whore.

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2010, 08:28:10 PM »
I was confirmed positive on April 1, 2010.  A few days prior, the instant test showed I was positive.  After the instant test, I contacted my local agency for hiv/aids for support (I really needed it).  Anyway, on April 1st, the health department (my testing was done by them at one of their free awareness checks) and they informed me I would be contacted by so-and-so from the Colorado State Health Dept.  She called me the next day (if I remember) and we arranged the meeting a week later.  She was first concerned about my state of health -- physically and mentally, and wanted to make sure I was seeking medical care, all before we got to the point of the interview about my sexual history -- the interview was quick, and it felt good to me to get some of this off my mind.  I was treated with respect and dignity -- and the state public health official even had compassion for me.  I'm sure other states differ with their approach, which totally sucks.  i really believe the point these days of the interview is to track positives for funding issues, and more importantly to notify (I was told it would be and anonymous notification) partners of their potential exposure.  I was nervous going into it, but it was done in 10 minutes or so.
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« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2010, 01:43:24 AM »
I was confirmed positive on April 1, 2010.  A few days prior, the instant test showed I was positive.  After the instant test, I contacted my local agency for hiv/aids for support (I really needed it).  Anyway, on April 1st, the health department (my testing was done by them at one of their free awareness checks) and they informed me I would be contacted by so-and-so from the Colorado State Health Dept.  She called me the next day (if I remember) and we arranged the meeting a week later.  She was first concerned about my state of health -- physically and mentally, and wanted to make sure I was seeking medical care, all before we got to the point of the interview about my sexual history -- the interview was quick, and it felt good to me to get some of this off my mind.  I was treated with respect and dignity -- and the state public health official even had compassion for me.  I'm sure other states differ with their approach, which totally sucks.  i really believe the point these days of the interview is to track positives for funding issues, and more importantly to notify (I was told it would be and anonymous notification) partners of their potential exposure.  I was nervous going into it, but it was done in 10 minutes or so.

You were confirmed poz on April Fools Day?  That just isn't right.  I'm glad to hear your experience went well with the health officials.  It seems most are saying the same thing about their experiences. 

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« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2010, 01:59:21 PM »
I posted about my and my partners situations with this a while back.  My interviewer from the health dept just showed up at one of my HIV appts one day, no warning, but she was very nice and it was no big deal.  My partner and I both live in VA but live 2 hours apart.  His was not so pleasant.

She insisted on coming to his house and insisted on names of who he had been with and etc.  By the time she left he called me and was scared to death and so upset.  He had given her my name and my # but told her I was the reason he had been tested anyway,  I found out first I was poz, then told him.  She still insisted on talking to me and kept saying we were part of an "investigation".  

She finally called me and I tried to be pleasant at first but then she started with this giving her names bull crap.  I told her I had already spoken with the H.D. and she said she needed further information for her "investigation".  

That just set me off.  I have insurance I have no ties with the H.D.  they aren't paying for anything for  me and I told her so.  I told her it was because of crap like this that people don't want to get tested and if she ever called me or my partner back again my lawyer will be contacting her and I would sue her for harassment.  I was actually alot more rude than what I am explaining here but the way I see it is,  its none of their damn business. We never heard from them again.

You should choose to answer what questions you want to and if they don't like it than f*&# 'em.


First, let this be clear, there is a reason why the State Heath Department visits you, and it's NOT because they are concerned about your health or well-being.. far from it!  Actually, if you can, you should avoid talking to them at all costs and if you are forced to, ask them, "Should I have my an attorney present?"

The reason they want to talk to you is to get the names of the people you been with.  This is not because they care and want to call these people up to have them tested.  Quite the contrary!  They want to see if they knew about their status BEFORE they slept with you.  And if so, they will open an investigation possibly resulting in the state's District Attorney press charges depending on the HIV laws of your state.  The worse your state's discrimintory HIV laws, the worse this is.  And you have absolutely no say in this process.  So believe me.  Trust NO ONE from the Health Department!!  And god forbid, do not give them ANYONE's information you've been with, and don't sign anything without a fight.

The reason why they want you to sign paperwork is so that they have written proof you've been informed of your legal obligations in the state and the laws.  With that signed document, should anyone of your friends claim you slept with them before getting HIV true or not, they pretty much have an open and shut case against you.

This is completely a legal matter, and it is not in your interest AT ALL to talk to someone from the health department about your infection.  Avoid it at ALL COSTS, do not sign anything, and do not give out any information about yourself (ie your phone number) or anyone else to the them.  I CANNOT stress this enough.  If you have an attorney and have to go to this meeting, bring him along too, if not just to show them that you know what the meeting is REALLY about.
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2010, 03:03:36 PM »
They want to see if they knew about their status BEFORE they slept with you.
and you know this how???
not by the definition and legal construct of contact tracing and STD prevention
nor by the ancedotal evidence of the members' stories here
nor by the fact that STD contact tracing has been going on since the 40s, and HIV contact tracing since the late 80s (before there even were any HIV laws in any state)

links please to back up your assertions unless all you're doing is fear-mongering
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2010, 05:43:30 PM »
It seems that Phoenuis10's mission is to come onto a website and stir utter bullshit around to see if he can get anyone worked up.  I have to read his posts with a bit of humor, to keep from biting off the ends of my fingers in contempt.
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2010, 06:21:42 PM »
It seems that Phoenuis10's mission is to come onto a website and stir utter bullshit around to see if he can get anyone worked up.  I have to read his posts with a bit of humor, to keep from biting off the ends of my fingers in contempt.

I don't know if he's purposefully attempting to aggravate people, but he has very strong convictions for certain.  Regardless of whether or not they are based in fact or fiction he purports them to be fact.

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2010, 08:08:55 PM »
BT65, agree with your point exactly.
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2010, 09:00:57 PM »
That is one of their primary missions, masked by allegedly being there to answer questions you might have about hiv and look concerned (which is also their job).  My link and proof is bullrun's experience that I quoted.  Go back and read his run-in with the Heath Department again.  Just because he reported his bf as being a possible source, they immediately opened a likely criminal "investigation" to put his bf in jail.  Now is that ANYONE concerned about your health and well-being?

Why would they need signed documents from you proving they had been there?  Has anyone ever read the find print on any of these documents?  Its what they use when they try to build a case against you should anyone say they were with u and got infected (whatever infections are listed in the laws of said state. I'm sure they could care less about any others). 

Also, a year ago, I had a unpleasant experience myself with the health department when someone gave them my number as a possible source for their infection.  They wanted to know everything about me, which I found rather disturbing.  Why??  When I told them I had just been tested a month ago, they ask "By who?  We need to call them up to confirm."  WTF!!!  After that, I knew damn well what this alleged "partner notification program" rap was REALLY all about.  And the other guy on this thread that said the health department was so wanting to talk to them, that they'd get the sheriff to give him a ride.  That just further confirms it all.  So I don't know about you all, but I stand behind everything I said.

Not all states are like this.  For example CA with its lenient HIV laws where intent must be proved, I doubt they even have a state-run notification program.  It doesn't benefit them.

and you know this how???
not by the definition and legal construct of contact tracing and STD prevention
nor by the ancedotal evidence of the members' stories here
nor by the fact that STD contact tracing has been going on since the 40s, and HIV contact tracing since the late 80s (before there even were any HIV laws in any state)

links please to back up your assertions unless all you're doing is fear-mongering

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2010, 09:12:14 PM »
I don't know if he's purposefully attempting to aggravate people, but he has very strong convictions for certain.  Regardless of whether or not they are based in fact or fiction he purports them to be fact.

So its aggravating to you to know that your State Health Department has an hidden agenda going on to increase its states conviction rates.  Here I thought that everyone on here would be thanking me for supplying this information.  No one seemed too pleased to be bothered by those folks in the first place and now since they know one of the reasons they are being persistent, I get chastised for it?!

I'm sure they mean well, of course, with free testing, treatment, councelling, etc..  But to mix in trying to assist in prosecuting people with HIV using archaic laws passed when HIV was a death sentence cancels out any good the heath dept is trying to accomplish.  No wonder everyone wants a confidential anonymous test.

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #60 on: April 24, 2010, 09:28:55 PM »
My link and proof is bullrun's experience that I quoted.  Go back and read his run-in with the Heath Department again.  Just because he reported his bf as being a possible source, they immediately opened a likely criminal "investigation" to put his bf in jail.
what link? you provided no link to a case of anyone being jailed. By the way, no one even mentioned "jail" in redbull's case. all he stated was the health dpt was going to open an "invesigation". You misconstrued it to involve law enforcement and jail.

Dach did mention the sheriff but he also mentioned waterboarding, grog and sky writing too. (did you really believe all of that?!?!?) Until he explains how much of his story was true and how much was hyperbole, I don't know that we can count that story as law enforcement being used to enforce "partner notification"

Not all states are like this.  For example CA with its lenient HIV laws where intent must be proved, I doubt they even have a state-run notification program.  It doesn't benefit them.
you are incorrect. ALL states have hiv-reporting
http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparetable.jsp?cat=11&ind=559

obviously you didn't read any of my previous links, so here are some of them, along with some more. For even more, google up "partner notification laws", "std contact tracing" or "hiv contact tracing" and learn how its actually an HIV prevention method and not a gestapo-like action to put pozzies in jail.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000042.htm
Current Trends Partner Notification for Preventing Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) Infection -- Colorado, Idaho, South Carolina, Virginia

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1272/is_n2596_v123/ai_16399937/
"Why the opposition to AIDS contact tracing?"

http://std.about.com/od/prevention/f/contacttracing.htm
which is often used for Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis. TB management also includes contact tracing

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/reporting.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/std/treatment/2006/clinical.htm
http://www.aclu.org/lgbt-rights_hiv-aids/hiv-partner-notification-why-coercion-wont-work
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #61 on: April 24, 2010, 09:30:44 PM »
But to mix in trying to assist in prosecuting people with HIV using archaic laws passed when HIV was a death sentence cancels out any good the heath dept is trying to accomplish.  No wonder everyone wants a confidential anonymous test.
links please to prosecutions using hiv name-based reporting for partner notification
otherwise that is just your conjecture ;)
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #62 on: April 24, 2010, 11:10:21 PM »
what link? you provided no link to a case of anyone being jailed. By the way, no one even mentioned "jail" in redbull's case. all he stated was the health dpt was going to open an "invesigation". You misconstrued it to involve law enforcement and jail.

So they need to open an "investigation" to notify his bf, who they knew was already notified??  That doesn't make any sense at all.  And what about MY CASE?  Why did they need to know MY name, what my current status was, WHERE I was last tested as proof, and all that crap JUST to notify me I might be exposed??? What part of the hiv-reporting law states they need to know all that??  Can you explain this other than they are trying to build a criminal investigation?

Dach did mention the sheriff but he also mentioned waterboarding, grog and sky writing too. (did you really believe all of that?!?!?) Until he explains how much of his story was true and how much was hyperbole, I don't know that we can count that story as law enforcement being used to enforce "partner notification"

I never said law enforcement was enforcing partner notification.  It is completely voluntary, but in some states they try to pry it out of you for a bad reason.  I'm only trying to warn people what your health department MIGHT BE doing, in particular if you live in a state where there is a discrimintory law where you must disclose your diseases to every sexual partner before having sex with them.  Did you know that it is a felony in AR for an HIV+ person to have sex with anyone without first disclosing they are pos?  Did you know that people in AR are going to prison for up to 25 years just because they didn't disclose and no disease was even transmitted?  Now would you give your information to THAT state's Health Department so they can have proof they notified you of this later should you mess up?  And have a record on file of you being POS and possibly use it AGAINST you should anyone of your sexual partners later test there and report having had sex with u?  I think not.

Partner notification laws generally protects the confidentiality of the person doing the reporting, NOT the poor soles they are trying to accuse of having done the exposing in a state with bad HIV/infection disease disclosure laws.  Until that is fixed and ALL HIV persons are protected at the clinic no matter what the circumstance, I know I'd want nothing to do with the Health Departments in those states, ESPECIALLY when I seen it with my own eyes in MY case and RedBull's on here!

I guess if you are some "grumpy old man" who don't anticipate having sex with anyone else and living in a state without such archaic laws, this does not apply to you.  But for some of us hornier younger folks, it does.
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« Reply #63 on: April 24, 2010, 11:15:42 PM »
Sigh.

Pheonius is, once again, wrong. I suppose we've all gotta have a talent.

Public health authorities require these interviews as part of a process called "contact tracing". It is an entirely normal and quite benign process. Folks will find that there are range of infectious and communicable diseases which are handled in this way.

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« Reply #64 on: August 27, 2010, 11:26:09 PM »
Phoenius10 does have some valid points that some of us have discussed at length in other venues. Some of the case workers that come by every few months can be very pushy;  not only do you have to sign all the forms every visit that you have been informed, but you have to initial each line that you have read it and understand it. WTF?  Some of us are better educated than the people making the visits. Then there are the two years of asking  " are you sure you don't want to change your story?" They want  people to come in for anonymous testing, but as soon as there is a poz. result, it is a whole new story.

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« Reply #65 on: August 27, 2010, 11:35:29 PM »
Sigh.

Public health authorities require these interviews as part of a process called "contact tracing". It is an entirely normal and quite benign process. Folks will find that there are range of infectious and communicable diseases which are handled in this way.

MtD

True, and sensible, but some take it way to far beyond just asking for list of people that may have been exposed. Apparently you have not been put in a separate room from your partner and each of you interrogated for 3 hours to make sure your stories are the same and contacts match like my husband and I  have. Had I not been so ill I might not have been polite for 3 hours.

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« Reply #66 on: August 28, 2010, 04:48:49 PM »
True, and sensible, but some take it way to far beyond just asking for list of people that may have been exposed. Apparently you have not been put in a separate room from your partner and each of you interrogated for 3 hours to make sure your stories are the same and contacts match like my husband and I  have. Had I not been so ill I might not have been polite for 3 hours.

Nope, I've not been treated like that.

When I was diagnosed I was given two option - contact my partners myself and advise them to be tested or provide their details to the sexual health service and a SH nurse would do it for me.

The object of the exercise being to ensure that these people were given an opportunity to be tested.

I elected to contact my sexual partners myself.

Also thread necromancy is bad.

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« Reply #67 on: August 28, 2010, 05:08:21 PM »
I was treated with respect and dignity -- and the state public health official even had compassion for me.   I was nervous going into it, but it was done in 10 minutes or so.

Now this was nice to read. Hugs to that healthcare worker.

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« Reply #68 on: August 28, 2010, 06:27:17 PM »
Now this was nice to read. Hugs to that healthcare worker.

After the lady at the health department with Candy tattooed on her breast gave me my results, she asked me who I had slept with recently and I told her I would tell them myself.  After this, she walked me into the back towards a door.  I thought she was taking me to talk to someone because I wasn't taking it so well...  I was quite surpised when the sun hit my face and realized I was in the parking lot.
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« Reply #69 on: August 28, 2010, 06:56:43 PM »
I still have the business card to the guy who told me, he reminded me of that guy that was on the Real World, Pedro.  He was really sweet and took me up to meet my doc.

That is some crazy shit, making you walk out the back door. :-[
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« Reply #70 on: August 28, 2010, 07:03:30 PM »
I have no respect for our local health department.  With there insensitivity on informing me on Christmas Eve, and with them making me sign a paper saying I would not reproduce.  Too hell with them. I dare one of them to come to my house or to call me. 
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« Reply #71 on: August 28, 2010, 07:08:57 PM »
WOW, that is amazing unfortunately not suprising.  I had a history of pre-cancerous cells when I was younger and my OB wanted me to have a full hystectomy because of the HIV. I was 22 at the time, 16 years and 4 healthy babies children, and no more cancerous cells, she can kiss my rosey white a$$.
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« Reply #72 on: August 28, 2010, 07:11:03 PM »
well I can't have kids anyways, I'm 27 with a progesterene level of .1 , never have been able to have kids, never will be able too.
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« Reply #73 on: August 28, 2010, 07:24:20 PM »
Nobody has ever contacted me about anything. I don't live in a batshit insane state.
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #74 on: August 28, 2010, 08:09:24 PM »
Nobody has ever contacted me about anything. I don't live in a batshit insane state.

I tested POZ back in June of 87 in Calif. I was told all they knew about HIV at the time witch wasn't very much, but I was NEVER ask anything about who I was with and who I thought give this to me, and NEVER asked who I fucked recently, back then, they didn't know much about HIV, and had very little info about it.....
it wasn't until 2 or 3 yrs later that HIV/AIDS become a Big Deal, at least in the Calif. County I tested POZ
in back then, and that was pretty much it, since that time while I still live in Calif. I Never was asked anything are was EVER bothered EVER again......even when I moved to NM back in 2001 it wasn't a big deal, I went the local ASO and got what I needed and that was that.......
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« Reply #75 on: August 28, 2010, 08:19:40 PM »
Nobody has ever contacted me about anything. I don't live in a batshit insane state.
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« Reply #76 on: August 30, 2010, 01:49:58 PM »
When I first tested poz I asked this question too.  I was told that in California when they report the result to the Health Department as long as they check a box that states I know how I got it...  IE , M2M sex, IV drug, and so on they usually do not contact you...  It's only when they check the "Unknown" box that they are interested in talking to you.    ::) 
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #77 on: August 30, 2010, 11:57:59 PM »
The local health department in North Carolina did the same thing to me in 2003. I got a call from them informing me that I HAD to attend an interview with a health department official. It wasn't pleasant, be warned. They asked me alot of embarrassing questions that I didn't want to answer like:

Was I hooking up with people at the local rest-top ?

Was I working the glory holes at the adult bookstore ?

Was I hooking up with people online ? At bars ?

Was I top ? Bottom ?

Did I let people cum in my ass ?

They tried to browbeat me into giving up the names of my past sex partners ( I wouldn't). I told them I'd inform anybody I thought I might have put in danger during the past year and I did.  They noticed that I had tattoos and wanted to know the name of the tattoo parlor that had done my work because I could have got my AIDS-infected blood all over their needles & equipment. At this point I lied and said I'd had the tats for over ten years (in fact, maybe a year by that point). I'd had my tats done by these hardcore skinheads at a tattoo shop about 20 miles form my house. I had watched these guys as they worked and they'd taken ever precaution along then way, wearing rubber gloves and using a fresh needle on me and then disposed of it afterwards. These were exactly the kind of guys that would have come looking for me had the health department called them and to be honest, I was scared shitless at that point. After that they told me that I could be thrown in jail if I have sex with someone and don't tell them I'm poz (duh, no kiddin' ?) and it was finally over. I wish to God, I'd had my HIV test done in a state that still allows anonymous testing, if I had it to do all over again...

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« Reply #78 on: August 31, 2010, 12:07:56 AM »
My test was actually done by the health department - at a community event - one of their mobile vans.  When I got my results at the actual DOH - the caseworker asked me how many sexual partners I had had in the past year - he told me I should contact them and that if I didn't feel comfortable doing so, they would do it for me - if I provided names.  I had onlly had one partner (my ex) - who was already positive - so that wasn't an issue.

A couple of weeks later I got a note taped to my door that told me I needed to contact the DOH.  It was their surveillance team - they wanted to interview me to find out my partners based on m diagnosis.  When I told the caseworker at DOH who had given me my results he informed them that I had already taken care of any notifications - and I never heard from them again.

In regards to anonymous testing - that only works until the time you test positive on the initial test - the confirmation test has to have your name attached to it.  As names have to be attached to actual HIV positive tests.  The anonymous part just gets you in the door - for those apprehensive about giving their name prior to getting tested.  If you test negative it stays anonymous - but a preliminary positive is going to require the giving of a name for the confirmatory. At least that is my understanding.
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #79 on: August 31, 2010, 01:46:18 AM »
but a preliminary positive is going to require the giving of a name for the confirmatory. At least that is my understanding.
Surveillance data on HIV infections provide a more complete picture of the HIV epidemic and the need for prevention and care services than does the picture provided by AIDS data alone. As of April 2008, all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and 6 dependent areas—American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Palau, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands—used the same confidential name-based reporting standards to collect HIV surveillance data.
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #80 on: September 01, 2010, 12:55:26 AM »
Well I have to agree that some of you have had horrifying encounters with the local health departments. I was informed by my ob/gyn that I was +. She was devastated and frankly did not do such a great job with it. I called the health dept about a week later, when I had not heard from anyone and they had not even notified the health department. I was handled very well, the man, Brian, made an appointment with me and said he could meet me, come to my house, or I could come there. I opted to go there, since I had been there numerous times for various things. He was wonderful, answered all my questions, directed me to resources and also inquired if the health department needed to contact any of my prior partners. I informed him there was the one who gave it to me, and otherwise I had notified my other partners. In NC it seems that even if two persons are separated, if one of them is named in such matters, the other spouse is also notified....or so he said. Anyhow, it is my understanding that 1) in part it is demographic, 2) the statistics are used for funding of resources, and 3) it is in the best interests of persons who are + to have information. I really hate that the negative experiences of being among those persons "hunted" so to speak has been a barrier to services if it has been. Z

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #81 on: September 01, 2010, 12:51:15 PM »
The local health department in North Carolina did the same thing to me in 2003. I got a call from them informing me that I HAD to attend an interview with a health department official. It wasn't pleasant, be warned. They asked me alot of embarrassing questions that I didn't want to answer like:

Was I hooking up with people at the local rest-top ?

Was I working the glory holes at the adult bookstore ?

Was I hooking up with people online ? At bars ?

Was I top ? Bottom ?

Did I let people cum in my ass ?

They tried to browbeat me into giving up the names of my past sex partners ( I wouldn't). I told them I'd inform anybody I thought I might have put in danger during the past year and I did.  They noticed that I had tattoos and wanted to know the name of the tattoo parlor that had done my work because I could have got my AIDS-infected blood all over their needles & equipment. At this point I lied and said I'd had the tats for over ten years (in fact, maybe a year by that point). I'd had my tats done by these hardcore skinheads at a tattoo shop about 20 miles form my house. I had watched these guys as they worked and they'd taken ever precaution along then way, wearing rubber gloves and using a fresh needle on me and then disposed of it afterwards. These were exactly the kind of guys that would have come looking for me had the health department called them and to be honest, I was scared shitless at that point. After that they told me that I could be thrown in jail if I have sex with someone and don't tell them I'm poz (duh, no kiddin' ?) and it was finally over. I wish to God, I'd had my HIV test done in a state that still allows anonymous testing, if I had it to do all over again...

Your experience is definitely the exception and not the norm.. of course, this is my opinion.
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« Reply #82 on: September 11, 2010, 05:24:25 PM »
I wouldn't sweat it...for their records.

Is this more popular in certain parts of the country?  When I tested poz no one said boo (in NY) and everyon I have asked who has tested positive in the last 5-6 years that I know in NJ/NY/CT have never been contacted.

i totally agree..  6 years ago in nj no one contacted me.    i did get contacted for syfilis though;
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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #83 on: September 11, 2010, 08:19:11 PM »
I was diagnosed in March 2009 in Los Angeles.  No one, not even my doctor, asked me any questions about how I became infected.
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The "Flu" - 6 Jan 09
Diagnosed - 12 Mar 09
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31 Mar 09 - VL 322,520   CD4 605 (14.5%)
08 May 09 - Started Atripla
09 Jun 09  - VL 160  CD4 594 (27%)
10 Aug 09 - Switched to Prezista/Norvir/Truvada (Atripla drove me crazy)
1 Sept 09 - Undetectable
23 Dec 09 - Undetectable CD4 830 (36.1%)
17 Mar 10 - Undetectable CD4 1000+

Offline onemoretime

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #84 on: September 11, 2010, 08:49:55 PM »
My Id doc says they do call him with new diagnosis.   so the big citieis they prolly jjust call the dr
08/04 diag 490 cd4 vl 50,000
10/25/05 436 50,513 hvb 1.1 billion
12/13/05 truvada sustiva
02/16/06 742 und, hpb 63,000
04/27/06 740 und hpb 60,000
01/05/07 458 und hvb und
03/08   470 undetectable still on atripla. Non smoking (chantex)
08/08 cd4 550 undetectable hiv, Hep B UND. Atripla
06/09  cd4 444, vl undetectable testo 130
09/09/09 CD4 687 46% UND  Testo 213 started androgel
10/12/09 cd4 682 46% und testo 597
01/12/10 cd4 842 48% und testo 434
041010 cd4 693  53% testo 492
100410 cd4 568 48% testo 523
012711 cd4 523 hcv 56 testo 596
083011 cd4 280 Hcv/HIV und
042912 cd4 158 hcv /hiv und, was on hep c for 11 months. do have ssdi filed and getting LTD
061912 cd4 151, bactrum, hep c and hiv und
071712 cd4 287 52% HIV HCV und
112012 cd4 520

Offline hope_for_a_cure

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #85 on: September 12, 2010, 08:05:21 PM »
I had the required interview.  All in all it went pretty well and of course I was asked to provide names and phone numbers along with addresses of those I had been with during the past 5 years.  I did notify my ex when I was diagnosed back in March and assured her that I did not and will not purposely attempt to spread the virus.  There was one followup interview and I doubt I will hear from them again. 

Offline hope_for_a_cure

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #86 on: September 12, 2010, 08:09:40 PM »
I should clarify that I did NOT provide names, numbers, and addresses. 

Offline numbersguy82

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Re: Required interview with state health department
« Reply #87 on: September 16, 2010, 06:28:44 PM »
HAHA too appropriate I just recieved my letter in the mail today. I knew it would be coming Broward County is rather efficient I have heard. They want me to schedule an appointment to come in, but a friend told me they will conduct the interview over the phone. Sounds like the standard disclaimer about spreading HIV and wanting prior partner's names.

Although the letter does state that with no action the next step is a visit. I would love to see them be able to get into my Building (aka Fort Knox). If they do convince security and then the front desk to let them in I want their script so I can give it to all of my friends to use when they visit. Altho then people might start to talk about all the visits I get from the Health Dept lol...
8/10- 73 cd4, 7%, and 300k VL *First Labs*
9/10- Started Norvir, Prezista, and Truvada
10/10- 511 cd4, 22%, and 886 VL
12/10- 498 cd4, 22%, and 106 VL
3/11- 529 cd4, 29%, and 101 VL
8/11- 620 cd4, 30%, and 74 VL- Switched to Atripla
10/11- 580 ce4, 30%, and 62 VL
12/11- 684 cd4, 31%, and FINALLY *UD*

 


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