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Offline tony62

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Risk from Test
« on: April 02, 2010, 07:21:19 AM »
Hello everybody here in this forum 
   I live in Vietnam, where there's around 1% of population get infected with HIV. Today, I went to Hospital to have a blood test to prepare to go to Singapore to do my PhD Programme. The procedure that a nurse did to take my blood for the blood test was: Firstly, she used a cotton-dressing soaked with alcohol to rub my vein on my left hand. Secondly, she used an injection-needle to take (draw) my blood out. Finally, she used another cotton-dressing to keep my blood stop bleeding. This is a normal  procedure to take blood everywhere. But the problem that makes me tumble in psychological crisis is: That nurse took blood of many people before me. And I'm afraid, if any drop of blood (blood of people prior me and they may be HIV+) sticked to her gloves (she wore gloves when taking blood), and blood on the gloves in turn sticked to a new cotton-dressing, and she used that cotton-dressing with HIV+ blood on my vein (where it had just been penetrated with needle, and still bled at that time). So how much risk am I facing? And could I be infected with HIV by this way: blood (with HIV+) tranfers from her gloves and sticks to the cotton-dressing she used and finally transfer to my vein through the hole of needle's penetration. Did Alcohol on cotton kill HIV immediately?

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Re: Risk from Test
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2010, 07:34:31 AM »
Of course there is no risk from an HIV test. Please, of course you should know that this is what we would report. You are certainly free to question us, but please check the links thoughtfully provided in the forums for answers. Thiis is, as you should be aware, not an HIV situation.
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Re: Risk from Test
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 08:14:26 AM »
Fears and doubts aren't facts. There are standard procedures which all health facilities involved in testing follow. For some personal reason you have come up with a cluster of doubts and fears which do not as far as I can see have any basis in fact. They are what we call "what ifs."

Once you get into the domain of "what ifs" there is little one can say because it's about being caught up in feelings rather than the facts of a situation.

Other than your fearful speculations you have not presented one single fact to support your doubts about the sanitary reliability of your testing facility.

You are worrying needlessly.

Get on with your life.
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Re: Risk from Test
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2010, 02:00:37 AM »
hi,but why blood in needle can infectious?these cotton put in the jar and  put cover on it,oxy can not fall into it,did hiv to die?

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Re: Risk from Test
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2010, 07:49:28 AM »
Even if blood was on the cotton or other surfaces you are concerned about, that is not how HIV is transmitted. It is not transmitted from hands or cotton or other environmental surfaces. It is a fragile virus and needs the receptive environment of a vagina or an anus to to be transmitted in a viable form.

You are worrying needlessly.
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Offline tony62

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Re: Risk from Test
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2010, 02:34:26 AM »
If hiv not infect on cotton or surface environment,why hiv can infect by needle stick?blood on needle else outside the body

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Re: Risk from Test
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2010, 02:43:56 AM »
If hiv not infect on cotton or surface environment,why hiv can infect by needle stick?blood on needle else outside the body

Tony,

When HIV is transmitted via contaminated needles and syringes it's because it's contained within the hollow bore of the needle which provides an environment where the virus can persist somewhat longer than HIV exposed to the air. Also transmission in this way usually involves the needle or syringe being re-used straight away.

HIV positive blood on cotton wool or on a surface exposed to the air is deactivated much faster.

As Andy says, you are worrying needlessly. Please be aware that you will not be allowed to continue asking the same question again and again.

I suggest you take the time to read our Welcome Thread and familiarise yourself with the posting guidelines.

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Offline tony62

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Re: Risk from Test
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2010, 06:28:44 AM »
But these cotton put in the jar and put cover on it,it can not contact oxy

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Re: Risk from Test
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2010, 06:35:11 AM »
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Re: Risk from Test
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2010, 07:02:47 AM »
Tony,

Hiv is a FRAGILE, difficult to transmit virus that is transmitted INSIDE the body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies.

Once hiv finds itself outside the body, small changes in temperature and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect. It has nothing to do with oxygen, it's to do with being in the environment outside the human body.

You absolutely did NOT have a risk and if you keep coming back with this NO RISK situation, you WILL be given that time out Rodney warned you about.

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Re: Risk from Test
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2010, 09:19:03 AM »
Ann,even oxygen cannot fall into make dry blood on cotton?I still no risk?

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Re: Risk from Test
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2010, 10:00:37 AM »
Tommy,

NO. RISK. NO. RISK. NO. RISK.

Come back one more time with this NO RISK situation and you WILL be given a time out. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY YOUR LAST WARNING!!!

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Risk from Test
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2010, 12:24:16 PM »
Hi,last question! does HIV die immetely if contact with alcohol?

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Re: Risk from Test
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2010, 01:23:46 PM »
It becomes not viable for transmission.

Time for you to move on. You've been warned. 
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