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Offline cpdh20

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is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« on: March 01, 2010, 11:00:21 AM »
hi guys, a friend of mine told me that using amyl is not good for you if you have hiv because it will weaken the immune system, is that true? any answer will be much apreciated, iam looking to hear about your experiences...thanks 

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2010, 11:14:18 AM »
If you attach the bottle to your nostril with a rubber band and sniff it for five hours I'm sure it's not good for anyone HIV- or +, but if you use it infrequently it's dispersed easily in the body and is of no concern.  Tell your friend he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2010, 02:19:10 PM »
In the beginning of the AIDS epidemic in gay culture there was a theory linking poppers to AIDS and to kaposi.  This is urban legend, now, long discredited --- however - important to NOTE:

Poppers are to be used intelligently because they can lower your inhibitions - and heighten your desire and you can do things you might regret.  Also, poppers like other drugs physically allow you to do rougher sex and not notice little aches and warning signs that you are increasing risk of damage or infections that may have nothing to do with HIV.  Conversely, poppers also dilate muscles to make sex less violent. So 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of another.

I asked my doctors for years about poppers and immunity and always get the same response - there is evidence it can temporarily stress immunity but the effect is counted in hours and days. 

If an HIV+ person's immunity is on the downward spiral, it seems common sense to use poppers with extreme awareness, not casually. 

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2010, 04:47:32 PM »
Nitrite inhalants are most likely to damage the cardiovascuar system. They should be used with care.

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2010, 04:54:28 PM »
Nitrite inhalants are most likely to damage the cardiovascuar system. They should be used with care.

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We use amyl nitrite in the box to relieve chest pain in heart attacks and for dangerously slow heart rate. Any left we take a hit or two.  ;)

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2010, 04:56:20 PM »
We use amyl nitrite in the box to relieve chest pain in heart attacks and for dangerously slow heart rate. Any left we take a hit or two.  ;)

Got any left over fentanyl? ;)

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2010, 04:57:36 PM »

   I just found out what these things are.  So how do you get em?  Do I go to my doctor or to the guy on the corner?  Or, is it something I can make at home with some fertilizer and bug spray?  Also, do women  like them, never hear any of our female compadres speak about it.

  Would this be a good thing for our marriage or should we just stick to the ole routine of sex after American Idol ?
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2010, 05:01:27 PM »
Got any left over fentanyl? ;)

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Nah, the strongest we have is morphine sulfate and that won't touch fentanyl.

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2010, 05:02:13 PM »
Nah, the strongest we have is morphine sulfate and that won't touch fentanyl.

I know. MorphSulph is like aspirin after fentanyl. :(

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2010, 05:05:08 PM »
  I just found out what these things are.  So how do you get em?  Do I go to my doctor or to the guy on the corner?  Or, is it something I can make at home with some fertilizer and bug spray?  Also, do women  like them, never hear any of our female compadres speak about it.

  Would this be a good thing for our marriage or should we just stick to the ole routine of sex after American Idol ?
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2010, 05:36:20 PM »
    Also, do women  like them, never hear any of our female compadres speak about it.

  

Oh yes, women like them! ;)
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2010, 05:40:15 PM »
Oh yes, women like them! ;)

Why you saucy wench!  ;D

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2010, 05:42:50 PM »
Why you saucy wench!  ;D

MtD

Well, it's just what I've heard...  :D

Skeebo i've also..erm...heard that you can get them at any good sex shop..  ;D
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2010, 05:54:17 PM »


    Cool then, now I just need to figure out a way to get her to try it... ;)
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2010, 05:59:15 PM »

    Cool then, now I just need to figure out a way to get her to try it... ;)

smell this might work lol
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2010, 06:30:00 PM »
I sound like Nadine de Rothschild giving advice on poppers. Or maybe Sanjay Gupta. Is it me or is he getting cheesier and cheesier. He guest anchored Anderson Cooper the other night - whats that all about?
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2010, 06:55:58 PM »

    Cool then, now I just need to figure out a way to get her to try it... ;)

To hell with her trying amyl, do it yourself and enjoy the rush.  However, make sure you do the snorting well into your sex play, as they loose their effectiveness rather quickly.  Can't believe you Thomas, the head, haven't tried them yet. 

Yes to the question of the OP.  They are not bad for you, except for the points raised above.
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2010, 12:07:56 AM »
inhalants r bad for u, period.

as a top i get many bottoms using poppers in an effort to "take" me (they claim it helps their rectal canal relax), but besides some momentary inebriation on their part, i noticed no difference in their rectal canal...and my penis is exquisitely sensitive.

if ur not dependent on the hi psychologically, my advice is to avoid them...they serve no purpose, like sniffing glue.

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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2010, 12:11:49 AM »
inhalants r bad for u, period.

as a top i get many bottoms using poppers in an effort to "take" me (they claim it helps their rectal canal relax), but besides some momentary inebriation on their part, i noticed no difference in their rectal canal...and my penis is exquisitely sensitive.

if ur not dependent on the hi psychologically, my advice is to avoid them...they serve no purpose, like sniffing glue.

The benefit of poppers is for the bottom, not the top drooling and panting over him.

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2010, 12:18:28 AM »
The benefit of poppers is for the bottom, not the top drooling and panting over him.

MtD

the only benefit to inhaling the fumes of industrial chemical solvents is to the companies that sell the stuff. may as well pour some airplane glue in a bag n huff that.

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2010, 12:25:41 AM »
The benefit of poppers is for the bottom, not the top drooling and panting over him.
Au contraire! The benefits of the quick high are just as pleasurable for the drooling, panting top  ;)
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Offline Matty the Damned

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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2010, 12:28:18 AM »
Au contraire! The benefits of the quick high are just as pleasurable for the drooling, panting top  ;)
were you spying on leatherman this weekend?  8) I was only drooling a wee bit, the rest was sweat. ;)

Ick.

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Offline tednlou2

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2010, 12:33:02 AM »
I first came across poppers around age 13.  They gave me a huge rush and made my junk really hard.  The one's I used were called, "Rush".  I think they said the "use" was an air freshener.  I think it said to open the cap and use it as an air freshener--go figure.  I would not like it as an air freshener.  I know I've read inhalants are some of the worse things to use--destroys more brain cells...well, that is what the "experts" said.  They like to scare people, but chronic use couldn't be good for ya I wouldn't think.

All I know about dangers is that you're not suppose to take them with meds like Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra.  As I got older, poppers would give me a bad headache and make my sinuses all dried out.  So, I stopped using them.  When I tried Viagra, it did the exact same thing.

By the way, I also remember seeing documentaries about the HIV epidemic where they once thought poppers had something to do with all the illnesses in the gay community they were seeing.  

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« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2010, 12:35:23 AM »
By the way, I also remember seeing documentaries about the HIV epidemic where they once thought poppers had something to do with all the illnesses in the gay community they were seeing. 

Yairs the leading advocate of that school of thought used to post in these forums under the handle "Smoothstone".

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2010, 12:40:44 AM »
An other thing one should be aware of is that they don't mix well with viagra, cialis or levitra. Since they are all  dilate blood vessels there is a risk of hypotension, abnormally low blood pressure, which isn't a good thing.

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2010, 04:45:48 AM »
inhalants r bad for u, period.

as a top i get many bottoms using poppers in an effort to "take" me (they claim it helps their rectal canal relax), but besides some momentary inebriation on their part, i noticed no difference in their rectal canal...and my penis is exquisitely sensitive.

if ur not dependent on the hi psychologically, my advice is to avoid them...they serve no purpose, like sniffing glue.
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2010, 08:39:39 AM »

Yairs the leading advocate of that school of thought used to post in these forums under the handle "Smoothstone".

MtD

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2010, 10:24:34 AM »
"Smoothstone" was, as he openly admitted, Hank Wilson, one of the greatest LGBT and AIDS activists of the last forty years.  Sadly, he died in November 2008.  His accomplishments are legion and mind-boggling.  Here is a beautiful tribute:

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2010, 10:29:56 AM »
He was still up a creek without a paddle about poppers.
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2010, 12:06:55 PM »
To hell with her trying amyl, do it yourself and enjoy the rush.  However, make sure you do the snorting well into your sex play, as they loose their effectiveness rather quickly.  Can't believe you Thomas, the head, haven't tried them yet. 

Yes to the question of the OP.  They are not bad for you, except for the points raised above.
 

I guess this is one of those situations where I wish I had an extra hand protruding from my chest to hold the bottle, much like  when I am trying to make a ponytail for my daughter.  I better stick with the weed, I am sure this amyl or DVD cleaner doesn't mix with the candle lit atmosphere of the bedroom.   I might have a use for it this weekend however, my wife wants to go see some chic flic called Dear John , she has a crush on the leading man.  Maybe if I pull out an extra strength bottle of Memorex Head Cleaner ole Skeebo can get his head cleaned in the middle rows of a Regal 10 Theater while watching the stupid movie.
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2010, 12:10:05 PM »
"Smoothstone" was, as he openly admitted, Hank Wilson, one of the greatest LGBT and AIDS activists of the last forty years.  Sadly, he died in November 2008.  His accomplishments are legion and mind-boggling.  Here is a beautiful tribute:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-ostertag/the-city-of-saint-francis_b_143131.html

Thank you for posting that memorial.
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2010, 12:10:20 PM »
When I was a kid, you used to be able to buy poppers at "head" shops. Do head shops still exist in the State? I dunno, haven't been there in nearly 20 years. They still have head shops in the UK.

For a while we used to buy poppers and do them at school between classes, by the vending machines. It took ages for the teachers to figure out what that weird smell was and why there was always intense giggling going on whenever that smell was wafting about. We started getting busted after that. ;D

It must be around 30 years since I had any poppers. Yep, I'm old. :-\

I think you can buy poppers online. Oh, the joys of teh interwebbies!
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2010, 12:13:56 PM »
 

I guess this is one of those situations where I wish I had an extra hand protruding from my chest to hold the bottle, much like  when I am trying to make a ponytail for my daughter.  I better stick with the weed, I am sure this amyl or DVD cleaner doesn't mix with the candle lit atmosphere of the bedroom.   I might have a use for it this weekend however, my wife wants to go see some chic flic called Dear John , she has a crush on the leading man.  Maybe if I pull out an extra strength bottle of Memorex Head Cleaner ole Skeebo can get his head cleaned in the middle rows of a Regal 10 Theater while watching the stupid movie.
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2010, 01:03:11 PM »
Amyl Nitrate is fun and probably can be used in moderation without negative health effects.  The crap sold OTC like "Rush" and other names is a headache in a bottle although it may not be harmful in reasonable amounts.   As a teenager I was more than happy to try several inhalants and wouldn't try any besides amyl nitrate again.  Freon, lighter fluid, Elmer's glue, etc. (even gasoline unintentionally once when sitting in a stalled, airtight car in a rainstorm) seem to have the same end effect: crushing headache.  I can have those without inhalants.  I haven't done amyl in several hundred years.
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2010, 01:04:05 PM »
Don't forget to pick up some Ethyl Chloride as well -- that really gets the party going!
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2010, 01:31:04 PM »



    I always stayed natural, weed and crack.  Don't worry the crack part was a 9 month stint when I was 17.  I say nine months, but it took me two years to finally  kick it. ;)  I've learned a lot here at AM since joining.  I learned poppers wasn't some sort of sexual position or act, although I still have my doubts you guys aren't telling me everything.  I learned what a Prince Albert is.... never ever would have guessed that one on my own.  The one I am most embarassed about is spooning, fuck we never called it that.  Sat here for a good 4 years hearing that term thrown around and was thinking WTF are they talking about.  Reminded me when I was in the 4rth grade when all the kids were talking about where they had put their fingers the past weekend and who wasn't a virgin.  I thought they were talking about some church crap and, like here, I didn't dare ask!!

  I'll stick to my weed and the buck position, to old to teach this dog new tricks.  Plus the DVD cleaner will probably give me a heart attack.
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2010, 01:36:06 PM »


    I always stayed natural, weed and crack.  Don't worry the crack part was a 9 month stint when I was 17.  I say nine months, but it took me two years to finally  kick it. ;)  I've learned a lot here at AM since joining.  I learned poppers wasn't some sort of sexual position or act, although I still have my doubts you guys aren't telling me everything.  I learned what a Prince Albert is.... never ever would have guessed that one on my own.  The one I am most embarassed about is spooning, fuck we never called it that.  Sat here for a good 4 years hearing that term thrown around and was thinking WTF are they talking about.  Reminded me when I was in the 4rth grade when all the kids were talking about where they had put their fingers the past weekend and who wasn't a virgin.  I thought they were talking about some church crap and, like here, I didn't dare ask!!

  I'll stick to my weed and the buck position, to old to teach this dog new tricks.  Plus the DVD cleaner will probably give me a heart attack.

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2010, 01:44:09 PM »
Thars fist fuckin' in Mississippi?
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2010, 01:51:05 PM »
Thars fist fuckin' in Mississippi?

We have a lot less to do here so we find ways to pass the time more imaginatively.

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2010, 01:54:40 PM »
Thars fist fuckin' in Mississippi?

sexual pleasure and perversion know no geography.

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2010, 02:49:50 PM »
So you've never had nitrous oxide in a dentist office?

no, but i did try whip-its on the Stuyvesant Town benches with Stuy's resident Norwegian neohippy drug-dealer back in high school. still not something i would have considered for sex...

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2010, 03:12:02 PM »
Don't forget to pick up some Ethyl Chloride as well -- that really gets the party going!

Oh this. ++ to this!

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2010, 04:47:18 PM »
inhalants r bad for u, period.

as a top i get many bottoms using poppers in an effort to "take" me (they claim it helps their rectal canal relax), but besides some momentary inebriation on their part, i noticed no difference in their rectal canal...and my penis is exquisitely sensitive.

if ur not dependent on the hi psychologically, my advice is to avoid them...they serve no purpose, like sniffing glue.

NOT true if they're used in moderation. Just don't "live" on the bottle. For the bottom, it's great, and sometimes necessary, and far better and safer than 'sniffing glue.' Apparently you've never tried them.

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2010, 04:57:52 PM »
my penis is exquisitely sensitive.

Who here would ever have thought otherwise?   
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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2010, 05:16:06 PM »
NOT true if they're used in moderation. Just don't "live" on the bottle. For the bottom, it's great, and sometimes necessary, and far better and safer than 'sniffing glue.' Apparently you've never tried them.

i have, they don't do shit to me but burn my nostrils. inhalants r never "necessary", except for psychosomatic effect. there r no industrial solvents meant for concentrated human inhalation., period.

many of this site use boilerplate text from US Gov't health sites in support of the use of condoms, but those same sites list poppers as an "inhalant" right next to airplane glue, spraypaint, gasoline sniffing and what have u.

it is only in the gay community that people reflexively defend "poppers" as some sort of cultural legacy.

funniest thing is watching people "in recovery" defend their use of poppers as "non-intoxicating"...

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2010, 05:19:24 PM »
Who here would ever have thought otherwise?   

some of the people here who think i shouldn't feel burdened by condoms obliterating the advantages of that sensitivity, that's who.

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2010, 05:20:28 PM »
If you don't like poppers, then don't use the fucking things. They ain't compulsory.

Also:

many of this site use boilerplate text from US Gov't health sites in support of the use of condoms, but those same sites list poppers as an "inhalant" right next to airplane glue, spraypaint, gasoline sniffing and what have u.

Cute strawman, that one.

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2010, 05:22:04 PM »
i have, they don't do shit to me but burn my nostrils. inhalants r never "necessary", except for psychosomatic effect. there r no industrial solvents meant for concentrated human inhalation., period.

many of this site use boilerplate text from US Gov't health sites in support of the use of condoms, but those same sites list poppers as an "inhalant" right next to airplane glue, spraypaint, gasoline sniffing and what have u.

it is only in the gay community that people reflexively defend "poppers" as some sort of cultural legacy.

funniest thing is watching people "in recovery" defend their use of poppers as "non-intoxicating"...
And you use what to back up yourself? For some ignorance is a blessing.

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2010, 05:23:02 PM »
If you don't like poppers, then don't use the fucking things. They ain't compulsory.

Also:

many of this site use boilerplate text from US Gov't health sites in support of the use of condoms, but those same sites list poppers as an "inhalant" right next to airplane glue, spraypaint, gasoline sniffing and what have u.

Cute strawman, that one.

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Re: is poppers (amyl) harmful for u if you have hiv
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2010, 05:24:02 PM »
And you use what to back up yourself? For some ignorance is a blessing.

back up WHAT? specifics r kryptonite to u it seems.

 


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