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Author Topic: HIV tests and false negatives  (Read 4020 times)

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Offline tommy246

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HIV tests and false negatives
« on: January 24, 2010, 05:35:51 AM »
If you look below at my numbers you can see my history i  tested negative jan 06 and also negative in 2005 jan and april 2005. The reason i got those three tests in 12 months was that i had been in  a relationship with a girl between 2001 and 2004 who died of aids  dec 2004(i knew nothing till she was in hospital in coma) . Is it possible all three tests were false negatives and in fact i have possibly been infected some years earlier. I didnt think this could happen as i understood that 90% or more show symptoms 3 months after exposure and the other 10% would show up after 12 months maximum. Its to late now im just curious .
jan 06 neg
dec 08 pos cd4 505 ,16%, 1,500vl
april 09 cd4 635 ,16%,60,000
july 09 ,cd4 545,17%,80,000
aug 09,hosptal 18days pneumonia cd190,225,000,15%
1 week later cd4 415 20%
nov 09 cd4 591 ,vl 59,000,14%,started atripla
dec 09  cd4 787, vl 266, 16%
march 2010  cd4 720 vl non detectable -20  20%
june 2010  cd4  680, 21%, ND

Offline tommy246

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Re: HIV tests and false negatives
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2010, 05:38:24 AM »
I just wanted to add the reason im asking the question is someone in another thread mentioned they tested neg for several years after exposure
jan 06 neg
dec 08 pos cd4 505 ,16%, 1,500vl
april 09 cd4 635 ,16%,60,000
july 09 ,cd4 545,17%,80,000
aug 09,hosptal 18days pneumonia cd190,225,000,15%
1 week later cd4 415 20%
nov 09 cd4 591 ,vl 59,000,14%,started atripla
dec 09  cd4 787, vl 266, 16%
march 2010  cd4 720 vl non detectable -20  20%
june 2010  cd4  680, 21%, ND

Offline skeebo1969

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Re: HIV tests and false negatives
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2010, 08:41:19 AM »



While false negatives do occur I think it is unlikely you had 3 of them.  The Elisa test will detect antibodies 6 weeks after exposure.  It is a myth, and a terrible one in my opinion, that a person can be infected and repeatedly test negative for a set amount of years and suddenly test positive with no exposure in between.  It just does not work like that.

   I think the general negative public has the stages confused with testing.  When they hear it can take 5-10 years for a person with HIV to reach an AIDS diagnosis without meds, they somehow perceive this as meaning you can get it 5-10 years after exposure.  That's just not true and  It's just not the same.

   Tommy, to put this delicately and with everything you described here, we can accurately say this woman did not infect you. 

  Sincerely,

  T


 
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Offline tommy246

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Re: HIV tests and false negatives
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2010, 01:28:41 PM »
Thanks for clearing that up skeebo thats what i thought, its just another pos guy in another thread said it was about 4 years before he tested pos after his exsposure.
jan 06 neg
dec 08 pos cd4 505 ,16%, 1,500vl
april 09 cd4 635 ,16%,60,000
july 09 ,cd4 545,17%,80,000
aug 09,hosptal 18days pneumonia cd190,225,000,15%
1 week later cd4 415 20%
nov 09 cd4 591 ,vl 59,000,14%,started atripla
dec 09  cd4 787, vl 266, 16%
march 2010  cd4 720 vl non detectable -20  20%
june 2010  cd4  680, 21%, ND

Offline hotpuppy

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Re: HIV tests and false negatives
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2010, 12:59:59 AM »
About the only way to be positive and test negative is to have no immune system left.... i.e. Very advanced HIV and few if any t-cells.  Generally Advanced HIV has other issues that make it pretty obvious that you have HIV.

Even then, it's not likely to test negative.  There are some great articles that explain how the ELISA and Western Blot processes work.  This is not the forum to discuss them in so I won't go there.

The important part is that you are getting treatment and making progress towards a normal life.  I'm sorry to hear about your girlfriend passing away.  Life isn't always fair in who it takes or when and it's always hard.
Don't obsess over the wrong things.  Life isn't about your numbers, it isn't about this forum, it isn't about someone's opinion.  It's about getting out there and enjoying it.   I am a person with HIV - not the other way around.

 


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