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Offline red_Dragon888

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Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« on: January 21, 2010, 04:33:39 PM »
When do you think that they will find a cure to test on humans?  One, five, ten, twenty years?!  Or are they already testing on humans?
« Last Edit: January 22, 2010, 02:42:26 PM by red_Dragon888 »
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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2010, 04:40:58 PM »

red_Dragon888,

Anyone who tries to be that specific is guessing. They are  testing a lot of therapies on humans, however, none of them could be considered a cure at this point in time.

Sooooo, the answer to your question is :   Don't know.

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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2010, 02:45:23 PM »
Well, thanks for your answer.  I had figured as much but with all the data on cures, I was hoping that something was comming soon to cure HIV.  I just getting tired of being hopeful everyday of my life for over twenty years.
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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2010, 03:15:09 PM »
My suggestion is to stop waiting for a cure and get on with your life.  There is no certainty that a cure will ever be found.  We can all hope that some research will work out to our extreme benefit, but until then the available therapies are a decent way of allowing us to live normal lives, with a few extra concessions most people don't have to deal with.

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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 04:40:28 PM »
that's one way
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Offline sensual1973

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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2010, 05:26:30 PM »
dont think about a cure you might wait forever.take your meds,lead a healthy lifestyle and enjoy life.
God grant me the serenity to accept the things i can not change.

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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2010, 12:33:16 PM »
no cure for atleast another 30 years pharma still hungry hungry hungry
God grant me the serenity to accept the things i can not change.

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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2010, 02:52:37 PM »
no cure for atleast another 30 years pharma still hungry hungry hungry
that's completely true sensual... Sad but true     :(
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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2010, 03:41:13 PM »
I just getting tired of being hopeful everyday of my life for over twenty years.
My suggestion is to stop waiting for a cure and get on with your life.
I agree with HR on this! There are a ton of other diseases and illnesses that have no cure and none on the horizon. HIV isn't all that special. There are plenty of people who have been waiting for "cures" longer. Just be thankful you don't have one of the more horrible cancers or something - chemo and radiation are a lot nastier than some little ol' anti-hiv meds. However you don't have to quit hoping, that's part and parcel of having a positive attitude - just don't waste all your time doing that and forget to live life everyday.

Personally, I've never expected to see a cure in my lifetime. Why would I, when so many other people have been waiting for the cures to their diseases for so much longer? (I believe big pharma is getting lots of money off of a lot of people for not curing a lot of things ;) ) I've never wasted one second's thought wishing the cure would come today. The reality I have to deal with is that if I don't treat my HIV today then it could kill me like it did to my two late partners. Heavens! My first partner didn't even have meds to stave it off for another 22.5 yrs (see thread about life expectancy with hiv ;) ) so I feel pretty thankful that the medical science has improved to this point. Not longing for a cure, I can go through my days without a constant disappointment hanging over my head and someday, in 10 yrs or so, when a cure might finally wind it's way through the system, I'll be pleasantly surprised, rather than being tired from all those years of wasted hoping.
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Offline sensual1973

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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2010, 06:31:36 PM »
well i think believing in a cure is just a waste of time..i more believe in better meds... thats all,nuf said.
God grant me the serenity to accept the things i can not change.

Offline Rev. Moon

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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2010, 07:02:02 PM »
well i think believing in a cure is just a waste of time.. i more believe in better meds... thats all,nuf said.

I am with you on that one.  We have come a long way.  I'm sure that in time we'll see even more improvements in what's available to fight this thang.
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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2010, 07:51:34 PM »
A CURE WILL APPEAR TOMORROW AT 10:39 AM EST
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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2010, 08:18:02 PM »
A CURE WILL APPEAR TOMORROW AT 10:39 AM EST
hallelujah! ;D that saves me from having to worry away the next 4.5 yrs (according to that life expectancy thread) :D
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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2010, 08:33:54 PM »
There are rumors circulating that the cure has been made from DNA extracted from Robert Pattinson's arm pit hair.
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2010, 08:36:30 PM »
There are rumors circulating that the cure has been made from DNA extracted from Robert Pattinson's arm pit hair.

Really? I heard it was found between Ann Coulter's scrotal folds.

MtD

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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2010, 08:52:04 PM »
A CURE WILL APPEAR TOMORROW AT 10:39 AM EST

Did your source tell you where this is going to happen?  We need to go there and camp out before any of the curesters show up.  It will be a long queue.
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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2010, 06:55:00 AM »
Hi redDragon_888,

as I told you in the John2038's Research thread that I will answer you, and as there is a similar post in this forum, here is my personal point of view in this other thread.

Live the life to its fullest and worry tomorrow is the best answer I can give you.
(Assuming full adherence, regular checkup and healthy lifestyle).

Keep Well

John

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« Last Edit: January 25, 2010, 03:36:25 PM by John2038 »

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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2010, 07:59:12 PM »
A CURE WILL APPEAR TOMORROW AT 10:39 AM EST

Well Thank God! Now I dont have to worry about refilling my meds next week.
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Offline Dennis

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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2010, 08:24:15 PM »
I'm not holding out for a cure.

Even if one did appear in my lifetime, it will be outragously expensive and probably not covered by insurance.

Offline Hellraiser

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Re: Any expert or experts please answer this question.
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2010, 01:20:09 AM »
I'm not holding out for a cure.

Even if one did appear in my lifetime, it will be outragously expensive and probably not covered by insurance.

If it were outrageously expensive I think I would find a way to pay for it.  I'd sure start saving anyway :D

Offline red_Dragon888

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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2010, 10:02:57 AM »
If it were outrageously expensive I think I would find a way to pay for it.  I'd sure start saving anyway :D
I am hoping that it will be "outrageously inexpenxive" so that all can afford it.
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Offline betonet

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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2010, 06:19:31 PM »
The cure will be something very simple and cheap. And BigPh won't make trillions of dollars per year from hiv drugs if it is available..... So... no... cure won't come soon I think. Maybe first thing they will discover is a HIV vaccine but only working on negative people not to become positive. That is another cash flow, ladies and gentlemen.
And after this vaccine  - then in some years the cure might come.
And When? Only BigPh knows the answer ;)
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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2010, 10:33:30 PM »
I know a lot of this has been said by others.

But the first month I found out I was obssesed with a cure to be honest me and the husband looked at everything. and I do mean EVERYTHINg. we chased every little link online we could get are hands on hoping for an answer.

Now granted that was just a month ago I was diagnosed Jan 8th. 

This month I hardly think about it.  I'm living life taking advantage of things I missed out on. occasionally I come on here to see what new meds are coming out, or in testing.  I dont get my hopes up like I did last month. 

My theory now on a cure is one that i'm not waiting for it or holding my breath I gegt hopeful here and there. But the cure could come from anywhere.  They could be testing something else entirely and have a lightbulb go off over there head.

Wether it comes tommorrow or decades from now. I'm gonna keep living my life and loving every second of it.  That's the best anyone could do. 
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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2010, 04:09:58 AM »
Right on! I feel you! I was the same way. Everyday I would search google or yahoo. Now I come online once or twice a week looking at the forums on research. I have and am learning to cherish life and to live life more abundantly. I realized that it was time to start living life and that I needed to stop preparing for death. Keep hope alive because a Cure... a REAL CURE IS ON THE WAY!! JUST BELIEVE!!  :)

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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2010, 09:24:01 AM »
no cure for atleast another 30 years pharma still hungry hungry hungry

Any links to back this up ?
jan 06 neg
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april 09 cd4 635 ,16%,60,000
july 09 ,cd4 545,17%,80,000
aug 09,hosptal 18days pneumonia cd190,225,000,15%
1 week later cd4 415 20%
nov 09 cd4 591 ,vl 59,000,14%,started atripla
dec 09  cd4 787, vl 266, 16%
march 2010  cd4 720 vl non detectable -20  20%
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« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2010, 04:52:11 PM »
Hi !  I hope this cheers somebody up . I just saw on the news that investigators  lead by Josep Maria Gatell at the Hospital Clinic in Barcelona have discovered why some sero positive people are elite controllers.
It is because they segregate a superior level of alfa defensive molecules which suppress the progress of h.i.v. infection.
Which means we will not have to continue taking antivirals though we shall still carry the virus.
They are now going to discover how to stimulate the segregation of these molecules.I know they will accomplish this in the not too distant future.
                                                         
                                                                   Jay xx

 


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