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Anxiety : Kissing : Bite : Blood
« on: December 01, 2016, 10:21:59 AM »
 Hi Guys,

I have been lurking around this forum for the last 2 months, and learned a lot from just reading most of the posts. I think you guys are amazing to help us out. God bless you guys. its honestly the only thing that's kept me sane since my possible exposure on Oct 1st.

I know you guys see this as a "low risk" or possible "no risk " situation and are asked this all the time. However I was in a club in Hmong Kong with some friends and only engaged in deep kissing open mouth with a CSW. It was multiple times and from what I remember quite intense. We did touch our tongues etc and at one point was a little aggressive and I did bite her tongue. Don't know if she bleed or had any other mouth issues that caused any bleeding  but we did continue kissing.  I did have a ulcer on the base of my mouth under my tongue (Don't know if it was bleeding) Also not sure if i had any other cuts or sores in my mouth. However it was quite intense the kissing that is !! I am married and don't fool around, I guess this has just made me so paranoid and guilty now.

I know you guys say symptoms are not a sign however, Just  3 days after that, I did get the flu, one sore (ulcer) bad sore throat /cough /fever/cold joint pain/fatigue etc. I did visit my family GP who suspected a viral flu and gave me dose of antibiotics etc. The fever did subside in 5 to 6 days but everything else like pain in the under arms and groin etc continued.

 I did go back to my GP 11 days after as my throat etc was not getting better and I briefed him about my exposure and told him what happened and he said HIV is not a concern but I guess he saw that I was a nervous wreck, sent me to the path lad to get my blood drawn. However I think the path lab tested me for HIV 1 test RNA PCR Quantitative which came back saying not applicable for below below 20 copies/ml. and he assured me I had no real risk. On doing some of my research online I know now he should have asked for the HIV RNA PCR Qualitative test instead of Quantitative.

Its been 2 months since the exposure and I have had a real roller coaster of days. I have had mild to severe headaches, joint,  muscle pain, pain in my groin, inner thigh and arm pits, couple of night sweats episodes, couple of mouth ulcers and also a lot of numbness in both my legs on and off for at least 2 to 3 weeks. The symptoms  have finally got better barring the throat and groin pain, but I am really stressed about HIV all the time.

 I have not been able to work or focus on anything else but just the thought that I have contracted HIV. I have  been in a relationship with my wife for 10 years now and we tested last year for all STD's and HIV as we were trying to have a baby.

I finally got the courage to schedule myself for a HIV test tomo exactly 8 weeks since my exposure and keeping my fingers crossed !!! I am actually extremely nervous and scared.

What are the chances of me contracting HIV by this incident ? I do think I bite this girl (Assuming she has HIV) but don't know if there was any blood and scared about maybe my ulcer/sore or any other cut or strep throat I had.

Any advise would be great to at least let me calm down till tomo.


Sorry for the long msg, but thank you guys very much in advance !!!


































« Last Edit: December 01, 2016, 10:27:07 AM by shattered guy »

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Re: Anxiety : Kissing : Bite : Blood
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2016, 10:32:27 AM »
Hi, your risk from this kiss was absolutely none...zero.
If this was your only concern you can fully expect a negative result when you test, it is safe to move on.

Best, Wade

To avoid infection,
You need to be using condoms for all anal and vaginal intercourse until you are in a trusting monogamous relationship and both have been tested for all STIs and HIV.
Everyone who is sexually active should have an annual exam and test for all STIs and HIV ,and always after unprotected intercourse. Always using condoms will give you peace of mind your tests will return with a negative result.
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Re: Anxiety : Kissing : Bite : Blood
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2016, 10:50:00 AM »
Hey Wade,

Thanks for your reply appreciate it. Even if I kissed her multiple times through out the night etc, and also with me giving her a slight bite she did pull away when I did(foolish of me), blood/my mouth ulcer/sore/cut /wound/lite bite etc dont know if she had any in her mouth.

Plus all the symptoms and timing, cant be anxiety symptoms only. I pray to God your right. Fingers crossed and look forward to your reply.

Thanks

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Re: Anxiety : Kissing : Bite : Blood
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2016, 10:55:37 AM »
Your mouth has dozens of proteins and enzymes that damage the virus and leave it unable to infect, the bitten tongue and ulcer are meaningless.
You have not had any risk, only guilt.

Wade 
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Re: Anxiety : Kissing : Bite : Blood
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2016, 09:22:24 AM »
 Hi Wade

So I finally went to a HIV specialist today and not my GP and narrated my exposure, he confirmed that there is no chance and absolutely no risk and confirmed no testing is required because of this exposure. However he saw that I was so paranoid and sent me for the HIV Duo test. I am praying I am negative. However I know you guys says its no risk. However what if I had Gonorrhoea in my throat from earlier and didnt know about it and then the blood from her mouth got in contact with the inflamed part of my throat.
Please do advise what are the chances then ? Thanks

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Re: Anxiety : Kissing : Bite : Blood
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2016, 09:34:21 AM »
You can expect a negative result when you test...
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Re: Anxiety : Kissing : Bite : Blood
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2016, 10:48:47 AM »
 
Hi Wade,

I am not questing your knowledge and judgement, but I was reading somewhere on this site, that gono of the throat can increase your chances a lot. I do often get a sore throat and had one soon the night after the exposure(assuming I had it without symptoms). So if I did bite her and blood was present, why is there no possibility ? Just to reassure myself. I hoping my results tomo are negative. I did the HIV Duo and Also PCR RNA Qualtative and Quantitative Viral load.

Thanks

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Re: Anxiety : Kissing : Bite : Blood
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2016, 10:52:53 AM »
Test for peace of mind and be done with it.

Best, Wade
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Re: Anxiety : Kissing : Bite : Blood
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2016, 10:57:06 AM »

I did test and waiting for the same. I am sorry I didnt understand your answer.

Test for peace of mind and be done with it, so you still think it will be negative.

Really appreciate your time and patience. I know posting excessively on this matter might get me banned. But not going to post after this, if you could just give me yoru last opinion.

Thanks

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Re: Anxiety : Kissing : Bite : Blood
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2016, 10:59:56 AM »
Hi, your risk from this kiss was absolutely none...zero.

HIV is not spread by kissing, hugging, saliva, sweat or tears. No if's about it.
Move on and don't post again.

To help you I banned you for 28 days for excessive posting and "drama" over nothing. If what you posted is true you had no risk so you need to get over it

Jim
« Last Edit: December 02, 2016, 11:10:53 AM by JimDublin »
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