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Offline TommyM

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Just checking on possible exposure
« on: August 20, 2006, 08:32:54 PM »
Hi,

I had an experience with a sex worker recently where we had a hot tub togther, at one stage in the hot tub she got on top of me and rubbed herself up and down on the shaft of my penis, there was no penetration at all. We then mutual masterbated each other, there was no protected or unprotected vaginal or oral sex.

My concern here is that maybe the head of penis came in contact with her vagaina as she rubbed me. Do you think this any risk whatsover, I am a little worried about this encounter.

Thanks so much for answering this question


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Re: Is there any risk from this incident
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2006, 08:38:17 PM »
No risk at all. Please read the "Welcome Thread."

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Re: Is there any risk from this incident
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2006, 08:39:57 PM »
Tommy,

Absolutely no risk. Hiv is a very fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is successfully transmitted INSIDE the human body. When hiv finds itself out of its preferred environment, it quickly becomes damaged and unable to successfully infect. Differences in pH levels, moisture content and temperature quickly render the virus harmless.

Rubbing genitals together without penetration is known as frottage and frottage is not a risk as it occurs outside the body. Please read through the Welcome Thread and follow the Lessons links for further transmission information.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Offline TommyM

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Re: Is there any risk from this incident
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2006, 08:59:19 PM »
Thanks so much for your quick reply,

So if I understand it correctly regardless of whether the girl was wet from vaginal secretions and regardless of being in the hot tub or in a dry environment there is no risk at all if there is contact between penis and vagina with no penetration (frottage)?

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Is there any risk from this incident
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2006, 09:02:36 PM »
So if I understand it correctly regardless of whether the girl was wet from vaginal secretions and regardless of being in the hot tub or in a dry environment there is no risk at all if there is contact between penis and vagina with no penetration (frottage)?

That's correct Tommy. No risk.

Regards,

MtD

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Re: Is there any risk from this incident
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2006, 09:04:30 PM »
Tommy,

You've got it. There is no risk of hiv transmission associated with frottage. Not even in a hot-tub. Just make sure you use condoms when there is penetration and you will be fine. Don't forget to follow and read the links I pointed you to earlier.

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Offline TommyM

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Re: Is there any risk from this incident
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2006, 09:18:40 PM »
Ok, understood and thanks for putting my mind at ease.

Take Care everyone,

Thanks

Offline TommyM

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Re: Is there any risk from this incident
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2006, 09:12:37 AM »
Just want to ask another question on this one. Is there not a risk if the urethra opening on the penis makes direct contact with vaginal secretions without penetration even if just briefly. Is there not a chance that those secretions carry the virus. I recall Ann commenting on secretitions from different parts of the vagina carrying different levels of the virus, is that right? Would my risk assesment change if it was know 100% that the peron was HIV+. Why is more difficult to pass the virus from female to male, that big opening at the head of a penis looks like an easy target.

Thanks

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Re: Is there any risk from this incident
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2006, 09:26:21 AM »
Tommy,

You're getting into what-if territory here and that's not a good thing.

You aren't going to get HIV because you got some pussy juice on your knob. HIV is transmitted internally and that means you have to have your almighty love organ inside your lady-friend's little treasure. Not just peeking through the entry, but actually inside.

Even then the virus isn't transmitted easily from female to male. The reason why has to do with concentrations of the virus in various parts of the vagina/cervix and the chances of it bumping into the specific cells in your body that it likes.

Take my word for it, you really have nothing to fret about. Frottage is not a risk when it comes to HIV.

MtD

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Re: Is there any risk from this incident
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2006, 10:07:25 AM »
Tommy,

Just to add on to Matty's spot-on comments, your incident took place in a hot tub. There is no way hiv would survive in transmissible state in that environment. NO way.

You didn't have a risk.

Ann
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Offline TommyM

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Just checking on possible exposure
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2007, 04:30:44 AM »
Just need some verification on the risk involved for a female if the guy she is with ejaculates on her vagina and anal area but with no penetration. If semen is visibly all over that area of the body is there any risk that the semen can enter the womens body this way at all?

Any need for testing?

Thank you

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Re: Just checking on possible exposure
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2007, 05:04:46 AM »
Tommy,

Please keep all your additional thoughts, questions and comments in your original thread. This helps us to follow your story and give you the most accurate advice.

If you can't find you original thread click on the red link I've provided above. Alternatively you can click on the "show own posts" link in the left hand column of any forums page.

Your questions will not be answered until you return to your original thread.

You've been with us for more than 12 months and so you should have taken the time to read our Welcome Thread by now and have familiarised yourself with our posting guidelines.

MtD

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Re: Just checking on possible exposure
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2007, 06:11:39 AM »
Tom,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.

The situation you describe is no different to frottage, and carries no risk of hiv infection.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline TommyM

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Re: Just checking on possible exposure
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2007, 12:37:47 PM »
I am sorry for not posting back at my orginal thread.

Thanks also for your advice on the question I asked.

Tommy

Offline TommyM

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Re: Just checking on possible exposure
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2008, 08:50:03 PM »
Another question for the panel.

I was with a sex worker a few nights back, we masterbated together, she was on her period. She masterbate herself and then touched my penis all over. Is there any risk at all that blood from her hand could enter the uretha of my penis?

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Just checking on possible exposure
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2008, 09:02:50 PM »
HIV cannot be transmitted via mutual masturbation. It doesn't matter if there's menstrual blood, semen, vaginal fluid or whatever involved.

You were not at risk.

MtD

 


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