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Condom break
« on: December 24, 2009, 12:51:57 AM »
Hi,
I am a married man with kids. On 18th Dec, 2009 I had protected sex with CSW in Bombay. I was on business trip. During the intercourse, my condom break. I found out after I cum inside her. She cleaned up and we had one more round of oral and protected sex. Deep french kissed were also involved. This time condom didn't break. Her HIV status is unknown. However she said she does testing every 3 to 4 months and she was negative last time she was tested. I don't know how much to believe her.
1. I know I have to wait for 6 weeks for the test, but how big is the risk?
2. She also gave me big love bite on my cheek which is still red. Is there a risk here? What kind of percenatge we ae looking?
3. Its been mentioned in most of the post, than hiv transmission from hiv + women to men, is low.so how heterosexual man get affected by HIV?
4. After that incident   didn't have sex with my wife. But whenever we have sex, its unprotected and I usually cum outside. I think I can't continue that till my test is done. Is this correct?

Please reply.
Thanks
Shaun

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2009, 07:50:02 AM »
Hi Shaun,

The condom protected you until it broke. And yes, it is more difficult to transmit HIV from female to male than the other way round. For a single and relatively brief possible exposure my expectation is that you will test negative.

Nothing else you are reporting that occured put you at risk for HIV transmission -- the French kissing, bite on your neck, etc. None of that was risky for HIV.

While it is reassuring to hear that the sex worker you were with tests regularly, what you need is to have your own negative test result. Assuming you test negative at 6 weeks then it is almost a certainty that you will again test negative at 13 weeks which is when you will have conclusive negative result.

Heterosexual men who become infected by HIV are often repeatedly having unprotected intercourse which is quite different from the single and brief incident you had. Also, being uncircumcised raises the level of risk.

You will have to decide about what to do in terms of having unprotected intercourse with your wife. Your risk was low but it was still some risk. Again, I do expect you will ultimately come out of this ok.

Andy Velez

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2009, 08:08:36 AM »
Thank you Andy. Well I am uncircumcised. But as Ann keep saying you won't be the first, I am hoping that I won't be the first:(. Guilt and worry is killing me. Guess, I'll just have to wait for six weeks. Also my question was if HIV + male has unprotected sex with HIV - female but don't cum inside her, is he putting his partner in the risk category.
Once again thank you for your quick reply.

Shaun

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2009, 08:19:23 AM »
Shaun, through the years of this Forum there have hardly been more than a handful of people who have actually ended  up testing positive. And a broken condom is a pretty common happening.

Not cumming inside of someone reduces the level of risk but it doesn't preclude it entirely. Precum can contain HIV. However, I hasten to say this is all within the context that your risk was a low one.

Naturally I do realize what your concern is and how powerful the guilt feelings and worry can be. And again, I do expect you to come out of this ok.
Andy Velez

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2009, 08:49:01 AM »
Shaun,

You are at a greater risk of having been infected with one of the more easily transmitted STIs like chlamydia. You'd be wise to have a full STI check up at around two weeks after the incident. You need to know that some people have absolutely no symptoms of being infected with an STI, so get checked whether or not you have symptoms.

And as for hiv, yes, you had a small risk, but like Andy I do fully expect you to test negative. Until you've had a negative result for hiv and other STIs as well, you should either abstain from intercourse with your wife or use a condom.

You can test for hiv at six weeks as the vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by this time. A six week negative must be confirmed at the three month point, but is highly unlikely to change.

Make sure you read through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can avoid having them break on you in future. A correctly used condom rarely breaks.

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2009, 08:58:21 AM »
Thank you Andy and Ann. You guys are doing great job here. I'll follow your advice and start with all the test as per window suggested by you.  I hope I come out negative by six weeks. This will be the slowest ever six weeks of my life :-(
Shaun

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2009, 09:41:38 AM »
That's a good plan, Shaun. Good luck.
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Re: Condom break
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2010, 05:06:32 PM »
Hello,
I thought I won't be posting till I am done with six week test. But here I am.
Two weeks after that exposure I started having itchy skin and minor rashes on neck. I show that in the morning and evening I went for HIV rapid test which came out negative. Its been three weeks now. But in last one week after my test is done, itching has increased, rashes also increased. I am getting shoulder and back pain. Also I see white precum on the inner side of my penis. My question is if these were hiv realted symptoms, than my first HIV test would have been positive? Should I worry about this? I know we don't discuss symptoms here and present or absent of symptoms doesn't say anything about person's HIV status and only test does. But please help.
Today morning I went for the STI checkup  and the result will start coming by tomorrow.
Also is there any HIV test which can give reliable result by three weeks? Last three weeks went really slow for me. Can't concentrate on anything.
Please help.

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2010, 05:18:02 PM »
ARS rashes don't itch.

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2010, 08:58:42 PM »
There is absolutely nothing in anyway HIV-specific about any symptoms you are reporting. It's good that you did a full STD panel of tests just to clarify as far as any of the other possibilities are concerned.

Whatever is going on with your rash has nothing to do with HIV. Discuss it with your doctor.

...and I still expect you to come out of this ok as far as HIV is concerned.

Cheers.

Andy Velez

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2010, 05:13:01 PM »
Thank you all for the reply.
My result of STD test came last week. All the test came negative except Herpes Simplex (HSV -1). I did confidential testing. So I spoke to them on phone and had not seen a doctor yet. She told me that its nothing to worry about and she also said I don't need any medication or need to see any doctor for that. They also deed HIV test which came out to be negative. HIV test was done at 22 days so its not conclusive but it gave me some relief. My question is can I spread HSV-1 infection to my spouse or kids? Also as far as HIV is concerned, did my risk increase or its at same level as I tested positive for HSV-1?
Also I was advice to retest for herpes at six weeks and HIV at 90 days. I am planning for retest for both at six weeks. So can I assume that I am negative for all other STD at this time frame or do I need to retest for any of them beside HSV and HIV.
Thank You

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2010, 05:29:34 PM »
You need to discuss any questions you have about HSV with your doctor. We focus strictly here on HIV. And no, your risk was not greater for HIV because you caught HSV.

Assuming you test negative for HIV at 6 weeks, which is what I expect will happen, then you will very likely test negative again at 13 weeks.
Andy Velez

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2010, 02:41:02 AM »
Thank you for the reply. I'll check up with my doctor for any HSV related questions. However from last few days I am having soar throat, dry cough, diarreha, back and shoulder pain. I am also feeling bit fatigue and also feverish. I think I have also developed glands around neck. Are these ARS? I am close to 5 weeks after the exposure. If I do an antibody test tomorrow and if it comes negative, can I assume that these symptoms are not ARS but something else?
Thnak you
Shaun

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2010, 08:31:14 AM »
Nothing you are describing in the way of symptoms is in anyway HIV-specific. If they persist you need to discuss them with your doctor.

I still expect you will test negative for HIV.
Andy Velez

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2010, 01:03:13 PM »
Thank you Andy. I guess I should stop goggling. I know you guys don't discuss symptoms here. But they are so much information on web which makes you very nervous. So if you don't mind can you please list some symptoms? Also when they start showing up? Before the body produce antibodies or after? Wether the result will be positive or negative when the person starts showing these symptoms?
Thank you once again for your quick reply.
Shaun

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2010, 01:14:15 PM »
Surfing the net is a really bad idea. We've given you the real deal about your situation. If you continue to browse the net I can promise you that you will find lots of disinformation to fuel your fears and all to no good purpose.

Lay off of doing that now or you are just going to unncessarily be fueling your anxiety. What it comes down to is you have to wait to test and then I expect you to get a negative result. Discuss your symptoms with your doctor.
Andy Velez

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2010, 01:22:31 PM »
Thank you Andy, once again. Yes.. I agree completely that surfing net is really bad. Honestly I just trust this forum. Answers/replies by you puts me at ease and helps me to concentrate on my work. Thank you for that.

I am doing my physical check up this week. That will give me some peace. Thing which got me worried was diarrhea and headache for no real reason. Anyways I am 5 weeks into it . So its just one more week to go.

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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2010, 01:27:32 PM »
Shaun,

Headache and diarrhea "for no real reason"? How about it's cold and flu season? There are lots of bugs around at this time of year and just because you caught one of them doesn't mean it has anything to do with hiv. It doesn't. Sometimes a flu-like symptoms just means you have the flu.

I still fully expect you to test negative.

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2010, 01:32:21 PM »
Thank you, Ann. I am feeling much better after reading the replies from Andy and you. I'll do my HIV test on 6 weeks  (that is one more week. .. :-) and will report back my result.

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2010, 12:44:42 PM »
Going for six week test today in next few hours. Very anxious and worried. Was not able to sleep from last few nights. Wish me luck guys. Will report back my result. Hoping everything will be ok. :-(

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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2010, 01:12:15 PM »
We're expecting good news for you.
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Re: Condom break
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2010, 09:26:10 PM »
My six week test was negative. Phew... what a relief !!! If i say i aged more than 6 years in last six week, would be understatement. Last six weeks was indeed very stressful. And I know i need to re-test at 13 weeks to be completely sure. However I am pretty confident now that I'll come out of this ok. I am sure next 7 weeks will go faster than last six weeks :-)
Thank you so much for your support and advice. I have no idea how am I going to repay you for all the help. Do let me know how can I help you guys.
You guys are doing great job here.

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2010, 02:34:20 PM »
Well that is happy news. Your next result at 13 weeks is very, very likely to continue to be negative.

Glad you found the support here to be helpful.

Cheers.
Andy Velez

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Re: Condom break
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2010, 02:29:44 PM »
My 3 month (around 14 weeks) test result was negative. Thank you all (specially Andy, Ann and RapidRod) for your support and advice.

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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2010, 04:26:14 PM »
Great!

Now protect that wonderful gift in the future by always using condoms for intercourse. No exceptions.

Cheers.
Andy Velez

 


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