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Offline ReallyWorriedSick

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What is the Risk?
« on: December 08, 2009, 03:04:44 AM »
Hi, i am new hear, and firstly I would like to comment on how friendly and supportive this forum is for those who are suffering from this disease.

I stumbled upon this forum whilst looking for answers to my question and in doing so came accross so so many threads started by people worrying that they may have contracted HIV via a needle stick etc.,

My story is a 'little' similar:-

I have a choking problem, goes back many years to when i was only 5 years old.  I awake through the night choking in my sleep and wake up in many different places around my house i.e., head out of window, in toilet, in sink, etc., etc., i have been referred to specialists, however nothing seems to work.

I required a wisdom tooth extracting and due to my problems my dentist referred me to a dental practice that deals with sedation.  However, firstly i was Private, but that doesn't bother me, i was only Private as i  couldn't find an NHS dentist.

When i visited this new Dental practice to make my appointment, my dentist had ticked the Private box, the receptionist crossed it through and ticked the NHS box.....

The day i went for my tooth extraction, everything went fine, until 2 days later, i got a terrible infection, swollen glands, sore through, jaw and headaches, i went back to the dentist and he diagnosed a Dry Socket.

He prescribed antibiotics, and on the bottom of the prescription it had his name.  I Googled his name only to find he had narrowly escaped being struck off only a few months ago and left his practice and moved to this practice, and upon further reading on Google about this practice i came accross reports of another dentist at the practice removing 4 WRONG teeth from a young girl, the top ones, instead of the bottom ones....and then altered the referral letter/form to try and hide his mistake and blame it on the referral dental practice.

I am worried now due to the history of this practice and also it is very old and the equipment looks really old.

I'm worried that they are not practicing disease control and that i may have contracted HIV?  I know it may sound stupid to some of you on these boards, however if you were to look at this practice you would realise what i mean.  I can't ask them because anybody in their right mind wouldn't admit they don't follow the correct procedure would they?

I have also read that HIV can remain active in a dental syringe for up to 36 weeks......

I am really worried, Christmas is near and i just don't know what to do.

I had the extraction on 27th November 09....

Offline RapidRod

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 03:11:39 AM »
Dry socket is when the blood clot falls out of the extraction site and leaves the nerves exposed. The main cause is the patient not following instruction. Has nothing to do with HIV.

Offline ReallyWorriedSick

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 03:47:16 AM »
Dry socket is when the blood clot falls out of the extraction site and leaves the nerves exposed. The main cause is the patient not following instruction. Has nothing to do with HIV.

Sorry, i am aware of the cause of Dry Socket, the Dry Socket was caused by me waking through the night and choking in the sink, the blood clot dispersed which resulted in my jawbone becoming infected, the Dry Socket couldn't be helped, as explained i have some problems in that department.

What i was trying to explain (obviously not well enough :)) was that when i returned to the Dentist for the infection, i was given the Prescription with the Dentist name on the bottom, i then Googled and found the information on him narrowly escaping being struck off the list....

Also, due to the other dentist within the practice removing 4 upper teeth instead of lower teeth from a young child, and then having the cheek to ask the mother if she wants the bottom ones removed as well, and then altering medical paperwork to try and get himself in the clear, this doesn't really instill confidence in a patient who has just undergone invasive dentistry that they are following disease control procedures.....

Offline RapidRod

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 04:00:35 AM »
This doesn't have anything to do with HIV.

Offline ReallyWorriedSick

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 04:30:40 AM »
This doesn't have anything to do with HIV.

Sorry, but how can you say this has nothing to do with HIV?

It is like telling somebody who is worried about the risk associated with a recent encounter with a prostitute that it has nothing to do with HIV?

This part of the forum is entitled 'Am I Infected?', which i assume is the relevant section of this forum to be posting this question?

Offline RapidRod

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 04:37:17 AM »
So you are trying to say that this dentist might have intentionally infected you with HIV? If that is what you are saying then seek professional mental help.

Offline ReallyWorriedSick

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2009, 04:54:38 AM »
So you are trying to say that this dentist might have intentionally infected you with HIV? If that is what you are saying then seek professional mental help.

I take your response as insulting and uncalled for, i do not require Mental Help as i am not claiming that the dentist intentionally injected me with HIV, i am questioning their disease control procedures in view of the history of this practice.

Can you not understand what i am trying to explain here?

Offline RapidRod

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2009, 04:59:47 AM »
I take your response as insulting and uncalled for, i do not require Mental Help as i am not claiming that the dentist intentionally injected me with HIV, i am questioning their disease control procedures in view of the history of this practice.

Can you not understand what i am trying to explain here?

No. What makes you think they don't a have a disease control procedure in places. Did you ask?

Offline ReallyWorriedSick

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 05:05:33 AM »
No. What makes you think they don't a have a disease control procedure in places. Did you ask?

You haven't read my post have you?

A practice that alters paperwork to save their own ass isn't exactly going to admit to not following disease control procedures now are they?

Offline RapidRod

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2009, 05:08:26 AM »
Changing paperwork has nothing to do with HIV exposure. Now what was your preceived exposure.

Offline ReallyWorriedSick

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2009, 05:15:48 AM »
Changing paperwork has nothing to do with HIV exposure. Now what was your preceived exposure.

I don't understand what you are saying regarding perceived exposure.....

A practice prepared to alter medical records to save their ass is capable of anything.....

Offline RapidRod

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2009, 05:18:26 AM »
Seek professional mental help.

Offline ReallyWorriedSick

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2009, 06:04:46 AM »
Seek professional mental help.

If you are not qualified to answer a Risk Factor question then don't bother posting if you can only respond with insulting remarks.

I am very surprised that you have that many posts given your attitude with me on this thread.

If i was a Mod i would have certainly picked you up on a few of your comments within this thread.

I register on this forum and within the appropriate place i.e., 'Am I Infected?' and all you can do is post insulting comments which are neither welcome nor of any help to the OP.

Offline RapidRod

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2009, 06:10:49 AM »
You came here asking for an assessment based on correcting paperwork in a dentist office and and for some absurd reason you believe you could have contracted HIV. You have no bases for concern of contracting HIV.

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2009, 08:23:56 AM »
There is nothing more we can do in relation to your concerns. This is not an HIV situation. It's about your having fears, thoughts and ideas about a WHAT IF risk.

Nothing you have reported suggests that in anyway you were at risk for HIV transmission. We can't help you with your problem. I don't see any need for HIV testing nor for further concern. If you can't give up what I see as an unwarranted concern then you might consider seeing a therapist or other professional to get some help with your  fears.

I can tell you that if you continue to return here with this same concern you will end up getting a Time Out. This is not an HIV situation, whatever your doubts about the dentist's professional standing.
Andy Velez

Offline ReallyWorriedSick

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2009, 09:19:25 AM »
I can tell you that if you continue to return here with this same concern you will end up getting a Time Out. This is not an HIV situation, whatever your doubts about the dentist's professional standing.

I shall not post regarding this any further, providing nothing materialises in the future, however I think it may be beneficial to detail somewhere within this Forum that those with fears regarding HIV cross-infection are not welcome to post here, as i for one am not alone in this somewhat confusing minefield...

Offline Andy Velez

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2009, 09:39:51 AM »
This is not a "cross-infection" situation.

We seem not to have been helpful to you. I hope you can find what you need elsewhere. Good luck with that.
Andy Velez

Offline ReallyWorriedSick

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2009, 10:24:40 AM »
This is not a "cross-infection" situation.

We seem not to have been helpful to you. I hope you can find what you need elsewhere. Good luck with that.

You were helpful, however at the same time a little strong i.e., the time out, as its very confusing to laymen as to what is considered an infection risk and what is not.

I wish you all the very best and hope you all have a Happy Christmas.

Offline Andy Velez

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Re: What is the Risk?
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2009, 04:46:43 PM »
The issue of infection risk is a lot simpler than people make it when they are worried. The worry is the problem, not the risk.

The only CONFIRMED sexual risks for HIV transmission are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. It really is that simple.

Good luck to you as well.
Andy Velez

 


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