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Author Topic: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS  (Read 2540 times)

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Offline UK_SL

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ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« on: December 01, 2009, 03:57:18 PM »
I was diagnosed 8 weeks ago and have been on the meds for nearly 6 weeks now - before I was diagnosed I enjoyed a drink or 3 the same as everyone else, infact I probably did drink too much.

Since I've been on the meds I've had a couple glasses of wine and the nest day have felt really dodgy - like I had a really bad hangover. I was just wandering if anyone else has had any problems with alcohol on the meds because I do enjoy a drink, I find it relaxes me but I'm being put off it completly because I've felt so ill the next day.
05/10/2009 ~ DIAGNOSED, CD4 = 8
22/10/2009 ~ CD4 = 11/VL = 430,000, STARTED ATRIPLA and SEPTRIN
26/11/2009 ~ CD4 = 121/VL = 840
22/12/2009 ~ CD4 = 184 (6%)/VL = 340
11/03/2010 ~ CD4 = 177 (12%)/VL = 72
01/07/2010 ~ CD4 = 247 (12%) VL = 76
20/01/2011 ~ CD4 = 350 / VL = 29

Offline rmgjunk

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 05:35:40 PM »
Hi UK,

I'm on Combivir+Sustiva for about 9 weeks now.  On the first weeks I couldn't drink anything either, I'd get really dizzy after just a glass of wine.  I went to a party this past Saturday and had two long sake drinks plus a beer, and felt OK both during the party and the morning after.  I did take it slowly, and had lots of water between drinks, and ate some too.  I guess it takes some time for your liver to get used to processing the meds.  Also, sustiva by itself can make you groggy the morning after, but it also gets better with time.

Bottom line: I think it gets back to normal eventually, but definitely take it easy in the beginning.

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14-Sep-2009 Tested positive
Last labs: VL <47, CD4 441/29%
Current meds: AZT, 3TC, Nevirapine

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 05:48:07 PM »
I've been on meds for over 16 years.  If I feel like getting shit-faced I do it, but I don't drink that often.  Certainly whenever I go out for a nice dinner I have a 2-3 drinks.  The only thing I've noticed is that on some med combos I got a flushed reaction from what I assume are the sulfites found in wine.  I generally don't drink beer because it seems to bloat me and I don't like that feeling with lots of meds in my tummy, and keep in mind I throw back about 30 pills a day.
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Offline mecch

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 06:32:21 PM »
drinking is a pleasure and it does relax the system but there are other ways too - exercise, meditation, sex, and pills.  I found that a perscription for anti anxiety pills prevents drinking just to unwind and saves it for the pleasure alone. 
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Offline max123

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2009, 08:06:18 PM »
hi uk.

i'm not on meds yet so can't comment, but did want to say that it's great that you are responding so well.  it's amazing that just 4 weeks ago, you had a cd4 of 8. congrats. maybe hold off on the drinking until your body bounces back?...there will be plenty of time to tie one on  :D

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12/09: cd4 568, cd4% 33, vl 2,690
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Offline edfu

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 08:52:26 AM »
Sweetums,

My dinner isn't dinner without a vodka martini first--two olives, preferably jalapeno-stuffed, please.  Up, and stirred, not shaken.   Served in an appropriate stemmed container.  And if it's been a particularly rough day, especially if the houseboys have been naughty again, perhaps two (martinis, not houseboys).

No problems.  Liver is fine.  Been doing it for longer than most of you have been alive, I believe.  

It's one of the few pleasures I still retain.

Mr. Fossil    
« Last Edit: December 02, 2009, 09:13:23 AM by edfu »
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Offline dixieman

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 11:12:15 AM »
Generally I smoke (Pot) and I recently indulged in a few drinks during the past holiday... I love Rose Kennedys (Cape Cods) to some... but, I just really do not care to drink alcohol as in the past... it does not mix well in my tummy!

Offline tommy246

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2009, 11:23:11 AM »
I like a drink but have cut down alot since last year when pos and last month on meds. I drink 2 or 3 small beers or wines a day on average somedays nothing but on a saturday get a bit merry . Alcohol doesnt interact with hiv meds but to much drink you could forget your meds and be to hard on the liver.With your present numbers i would wait a while its early days and your doing very well be patient.
jan 06 neg
dec 08 pos cd4 505 ,16%, 1,500vl
april 09 cd4 635 ,16%,60,000
july 09 ,cd4 545,17%,80,000
aug 09,hosptal 18days pneumonia cd190,225,000,15%
1 week later cd4 415 20%
nov 09 cd4 591 ,vl 59,000,14%,started atripla
dec 09  cd4 787, vl 266, 16%
march 2010  cd4 720 vl non detectable -20  20%
june 2010  cd4  680, 21%, ND

Offline william1953

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2009, 12:24:55 AM »
I have a drink of wine or beer at home a couple of times a week, and maybe about 3 drinks at an occasional party. Before I started HIV meds in 1995, I used to drink much more socially, and didn't have much of a hangover. In the past 10 years, I will get a headache and feel tired the next day if I have more than 3 drinks. I make sure that I drink a glass of water between beers or glasses of wine. That helps prevent headaches, but I'm still tired the next day. My mother and older sister got headaches after drinking, so some of it's genetic, but I definitely think it's the HIV meds. Even pot affects me differently than it used to- I get restless and my muscles ache, so I only smoke occasionally at a social gathering. I'm on 6 HIV antivirals plus 2 anti-depressants, and I think they all can alter or increase intoxicant effects.
Tested positive in 1990- CD4 count 600
Started HIV meds 1995- CD4 count 200
Until 1999- CD4 count 100
In 2000- CD4 dropped to 25
May 2007- CD4 <5 viral load 20K
June 2007- CD4 25 viral load undetectable
December 2007- CD4 200+ viral load still undetectable
September 2010- CD4 260+ viral load still undetectable

Offline moskimo

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2009, 01:48:55 AM »
i think the same thing happes to me since i started meds,i am not a drinker perse,have never been drunk all my life,but i have a bottle of beer maybe once in a while,just last weekend, i had to drink about four bottles of heneiken,that is the only beer i drink, later on i took my meds,believe me, i was knocked out for two days, i felt funny weird and completly out of sort.i related this to my doc and she told me that hiv meds dont mix well with alcohol.she said that having a glass  of wine from time to time wont do any harm though but she advised me to avoid it completely if i can.

Offline Marshall

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2009, 03:08:18 AM »
I have been on meds since 1994. At first I had combivir+kaletra.....if I had a drink of wine, even with dinner, the following day I felt someone was battering at my head with a hammer. I have never had a hangover in my life, as dont drink that much. Now I am on Atripla, and its my stomach that seems to pay the price. Friends of ours are party animals and go out every weekend and get wasted with alcohol and have no effects - so think its personal......but what our friends do cannot be good for your liver, on top of your life saving meds!!
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Offline justjohn

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2009, 09:03:09 PM »
I've learned to listen to my body and modify my behaviors to maximize my energy (and feeling as close to the old normal as I can).  If doing something like drinking alcohol makes me feel unwell, then I usually stop it.  I know I'm a wimp.  A real man would drink anyway, and not let the meds dictate any of my behavior.

Also I've found that drinking non-alcohol beers and wines in social settings still makes me feel connected to people, but doesn't make me feel sick the next day.

I guess it's all about finding your own balance and limits based on self experimentaion, and deciding what's important for you, without letting the disease, the meds, or other people, rule you.

Offline ByTheBay

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2009, 01:04:40 PM »
My personal experience is that alcohol on top of my HIV meds gives me a terrible headache the next day.  The "stay in bed with the covers over your head and not move for 8 hours" kind of a headache.  So even though I used to love to go for drinks with friends, now I stick to club soda or diet coke.
3/12/2009 Tested Negative
5/22/2009 Tested Negative
9/17/2009 Tested Positive
9/25/2009 CD4 53  (10%) VL 57,305
9/28/2009 CD4 62  (7% )  VL: 57,305
10/3/2009 Started Truvada/Norvir/Prezista/ Septra/Bactrim and Rifabutin
11/02/2009  CD4  67 (15%) VL: 626
12/21/2009  CD4  56 (10%) VL: Undetectable
03/22/2010  CD4  46 (10%)  VL: Undetectable
06/23/2010 CD4 61 (13%) VL: Undetectable

Offline pozzitive

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2009, 03:05:03 PM »
I love a cold beer in the summer but I have cut down a lot and I think it has only worked for my advantage!
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Offline debsd222

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2009, 06:39:15 PM »
I have the same reaction. I used to drink alot of wine, but now since Im on the meds more than one glass makes me feel really hung over- and not the next day, within a couple of hours. I still sometimes have that desire to have a glass with friends or dinner, but its not worth feeling so crappy afterwards. I must say I miss it a little. I used to de-stress after a rough day with a couple glasses of wine but I have to accept that things have changed.
April 08 3 month bout w/ shingles, ongoing nerve pain
Dec 08 pos  cd4 200 %8  VL 18,000
Feb 09 started sustiva, truvada -allergic to sustiva, hospital 4 days.
March 09 started truvada, reyataz and norvir
March 09  cd4 279  % 12 VL 10,000
April 09 cd4 327  %12  VL 300
Aug 09 cd4 392  %16  Vl undetectable
Dec 09 hospital pneumonia 6 days
Dec 09 cd4 462  %20  VL undetectable
Mar 10 cd4 629 27% VL undetectable
July 9, 2010 cd4 505  21% VL undetectable
Oct 2010 cd4 689  22%  VL 64
Nov 2010  cd4689  22%  VL  UD
May 2013 cd4 759. 29%. VL. UD

Offline elf

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Re: ALOCHOL WITH HIV+ MEDICATIONS
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2009, 10:21:05 AM »
It depends on the medicine. Alcohol was ok with Combivir+Kaletra but it's not ok with Kivexa(Epzicom)+Kaletra because alcohol can make abacavir side effects more severe, and I don't fancy a sudden heart attack in my 28th year lol.

 


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