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Author Topic: ViiV Healthcare Inc. and the pipeline  (Read 2154 times)

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Offline xman

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ViiV Healthcare Inc. and the pipeline
« on: November 04, 2009, 08:49:24 PM »
Pfizer and GSK made a new company focused on the development of new treatments for HIV. But the pipeline shows nothing else than a new wave of HAART successors which seems to have the same mechanism of action of the current therapies. My question is simple. Let's be optimistic and let's us assume that in 8-10 years we will have efficient gene therapies to treat the disaease, why they continue to invest in old treatment approaches?
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Offline Assurbanipal

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Re: ViiV Healthcare Inc. and the pipeline
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 12:25:29 AM »
As patients I don't think we should put all our eggs in the basket of potential gene therapies -- diversification of approach is in our interest.
5/06 VL 1M+, CD4 22, 5% , pneumonia, thrush -- O2 support 2 months, 6/06 +Kaletra/Truvada
9/06 VL 3959 CD4 297 13.5% 12/06 VL <400 CD4 350 15.2% +Pravachol
2007 VL<400, 70, 50 CD4 408-729 16.0% -19.7%
2008 VL UD CD4 468 - 538 16.7% - 24.6% Osteoporosis 11/08 doubled Pravachol, +Calcium/D
02/09 VL 100 CD4 616 23.7% 03/09 VL 130 5/09 VL 100 CD4 540 28.4% +Actonel (osteoporosis) 7/09 VL 130
8/09  new regimen Isentress/Epzicom 9/09 VL UD CD4 621 32.7% 11/09 VL UD CD4 607 26.4% swap Isentress for Prezista/Norvir 12/09 (liver and muscle issues) VL 50
2010 VL UD CD4 573-680 26.1% - 30.9% 12/10 VL 20
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Offline xman

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Re: ViiV Healthcare Inc. and the pipeline
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 01:17:58 PM »
They aren't even trying new approaches because they don't see the necessary economic outcome. Perhaps it sounds cynic but it's the only reason why they insist on old treatment methods. Many biotech companies are trying to find valid alternatives to HAART and then we see this newborn company still trying to sale us the old stuff. I don't see any breakthrough in what they have in the pipeline. Perhaps fewer side effects and fewer resistance issues but the substance doesn't really change. We still have to take those new pills for life.
sign the petition launched by the aids policy project addressed to the nih aimed to increase the money needed to find the cure:

http://www.aidspolicyproject.org/petition_for_the_nih

we can make a difference and we need to fight. please support them! it doesn't cost you anything. they need it now more than ever!

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: ViiV Healthcare Inc. and the pipeline
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 02:26:30 PM »
Yes indeed.  The utter audacity of AIDS victims demanding the market find new medications in existing classes with a lower tendency to become resistant to, or simply ones that they have no resistance to.  As someone with multiple resistance issues I really, JUST MUST apologize for consuming so many of your research dollars.

::rolls eyes::
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Offline xman

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Re: ViiV Healthcare Inc. and the pipeline
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 03:06:50 PM »
As someone with multiple resistance issues I really, JUST MUST apologize for consuming so many of your research dollars.

::rolls eyes::

you wouldn't have resistance issues if the treatment approach would be different. instead of making irony you should focus your attention on the fact that unless more powerful strategies will developed to combat the disease you'll not leave this evil circle.
sign the petition launched by the aids policy project addressed to the nih aimed to increase the money needed to find the cure:

http://www.aidspolicyproject.org/petition_for_the_nih

we can make a difference and we need to fight. please support them! it doesn't cost you anything. they need it now more than ever!

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: ViiV Healthcare Inc. and the pipeline
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 03:50:00 PM »
That was a really funny reply.  Thanks.
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Offline GNYC09

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Re: ViiV Healthcare Inc. and the pipeline
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2009, 06:27:00 PM »
I don't see any breakthrough in what they have in the pipeline. Perhaps fewer side effects and fewer resistance issues but the substance doesn't really change. We still have to take those new pills for life.

You wouldn't see a breakthrough if it hit you in the face, Mr. Mopey.  There have been plenty of posts about new ways of tackling this problem...from gene therapy to zinc finger proteins.  Turn off your Joy Division and check out the Research News section.

Offline xman

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Re: ViiV Healthcare Inc. and the pipeline
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 06:56:41 PM »
You wouldn't see a breakthrough if it hit you in the face, Mr. Mopey.  There have been plenty of posts about new ways of tackling this problem...from gene therapy to zinc finger proteins.  Turn off your Joy Division and check out the Research News section.

we are talking about the new company viiv healthcare which still believes in stoneage compounds
« Last Edit: November 05, 2009, 06:59:52 PM by xman »
sign the petition launched by the aids policy project addressed to the nih aimed to increase the money needed to find the cure:

http://www.aidspolicyproject.org/petition_for_the_nih

we can make a difference and we need to fight. please support them! it doesn't cost you anything. they need it now more than ever!

 


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