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Author Topic: H1N1 Vaccine - Should I Get It?...  (Read 1687 times)

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Offline SouthSam7

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H1N1 Vaccine - Should I Get It?...
« on: October 29, 2009, 10:27:57 PM »
I apologize if this question has been answered in previous threads, but I searched for an H1N1 vaccine thread.  I found many threads with H1N1 in them but many of them were not current.

Should HIV+ people get this vaccine?  I usually get a flu shot.  I'm concerned about the H1N1 vaccine, though, since it is a new vaccine.  I also don't like extra mercury in my body (from the vaccine preservative). 

Can someone with expertise or first-hand knowledge tell me if I should get this vaccine or not?  I could get it at my local health department but only if I disclose my HIV status.

Thanks,

Sam

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Re: H1N1 Vaccine - Should I Get It?...
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2009, 01:02:59 AM »
I apologize if this question has been answered in previous threads, but I searched for an H1N1 vaccine thread.  I found many threads with H1N1 in them but many of them were not current.

Should HIV+ people get this vaccine?  I usually get a flu shot.  I'm concerned about the H1N1 vaccine, though, since it is a new vaccine.  I also don't like extra mercury in my body (from the vaccine preservative). 

Can someone with expertise or first-hand knowledge tell me if I should get this vaccine or not?  I could get it at my local health department but only if I disclose my HIV status.

Thanks,

Sam

Yes, you should get it, as a shot.

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Re: H1N1 Vaccine - Should I Get It?...
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2009, 07:26:39 AM »
Yes, it is recommended that we get the shot.  And if you usually get the flu shot you should have no additional concerns -- it is made by the same process and would have been part of this year's flu shot if it had come out a few months earlier.

The mercury is from a trace preservative, Thimerasol.  There's no difference between the H1N! shots and the regular seasonal flu shots on this issue either.  The official Q&A on it reads:

Will the 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccine contain thimerosal?
The 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccines that FDA is licensing (approving) will be manufactured in several formulations. Some will come in multi-dose vials and will contain thimerosal as a preservative. Multi-dose vials of seasonal influenza vaccine also contain thimerosal to prevent potential contamination after the vial is opened.

Some vaccine manufacturers will be producing 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccine in single-dose units, which will not require the use of thimerosal as a preservative. In addition, the live-attenuated version of the vaccine, which is administered intranasally (through the nose), is produced in single-units and will not contain thimerosal.

I have concerns about the use of thimerosal. Is thimerosal still being used?
People have a right to expect the vaccines they receive are safe and effective. CDC and FDA also hold vaccines to the highest standards of safety. That is why CDC and FDA continually evaluate new scientific information about the safety of vaccines. Since 2001, no new vaccine licensed by FDA for use in children has contained thimerosal as a preservative, and all vaccines routinely recommended by CDC for children under six years of age have been thimerosal-free, or contain only trace amounts, except for multi-dose formulations of influenza vaccine. This was done as a precautionary step and not because there was evidence confirming that thimerosal-containing vaccines were causing health problems. The most recent and rigorous scientific research does not support the hypothesis that thimerosal-containing vaccines are harmful.  

Thimerosal is an important preservative that protects vaccines against potential microbial contamination, which may occur in opened multi-dose vials of vaccine. Such contamination could cause serious illness or death. Since seasonal influenza vaccine is produced in large quantities for annual immunization campaigns, some of the vaccine is produced in multi-dose vials, and contains thimerosal to safeguard against possible contamination of the vial once it is opened.

Three leading federal agencies (CDC, FDA, and NIH) have reviewed the published research on thimerosal and found it to be a safe product to use in vaccines. Three independent organizations [The National Academy of Sciencesí Institute of Medicine, Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP)] reviewed the published research and also found thimerosal to be a safe product to use in vaccines. The scientific community supports the use of thimerosal in influenza vaccines.

Is thimerosal safe when used as a preservative in vaccines?
CDC places a high priority on vaccine safety, surveillance, and research.  CDC is aware that the presence of the preservative thimerosal in vaccines and suggestions of a relationship to autism has raised concerns. These concerns make the decisions surrounding vaccinations confusing and difficult for some people, especially parents. Numerous studies have found no association between thimerosal exposure and autism. Since 2001, no new vaccine licensed by FDA for use in children has contained thimerosal as a preservative and all vaccines routinely recommended by CDC for children under six years of age have been thimerosal-free, or contain only trace amounts, except for some formulations of influenza vaccine.  Unfortunately, we have not seen reductions in the numbers of children identified with autism indicating that the cause of autism is not related to a single exposure such as thimerosal.  

The federal government is committed to assuring the safety of vaccines. This is achieved by FDA oversight of rigorous pre-licensure trials and post-licensure monitoring by CDC and FDA. This commitment not only stems from our scientific and medical dedication, it is also personal Ė for most of us who work at CDC are also parents and grandparents. We too, place tremendous value on the health and safety of children.


http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/thimerosal_qa.htm

Note you may also want to make sure your pneumovax booster is up to date (every 5 years), just in case you get flu anyway.

More info in this thread http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=29220.msg358962#msg358962
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Offline SouthSam7

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Re: H1N1 Vaccine - Should I Get It?...
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2009, 02:09:38 PM »
Thanks, everybody, both private message respondents and forum thread respondents.

If my ASO gets the vaccine I will most likely (reluctantly) take it.

Sam

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Re: H1N1 Vaccine - Should I Get It?...
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2009, 04:02:37 PM »
Unless you're really keen on being sick as a dog for an entire week with H1N1 like I currently am than I'd advise getting it when it's available.
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Offline SouthSam7

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Re: H1N1 Vaccine - Should I Get It?...
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2009, 05:56:24 PM »
Ok.  Thanks y'all.  Well, hell I didn't know.

Sam

 


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