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Author Topic: Treatment in Bali, Indonesia?  (Read 1796 times)

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Offline echolad

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Treatment in Bali, Indonesia?
« on: October 20, 2009, 01:11:27 AM »
Hi

I goggled for "Bali" after i read the book 'Eat, Pray and Love' by Elizabeth Gilbert. Famous healers and miraculous cure.

This is something that i found.

http://74.6.146.127/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=indonesia+%22cure%22+%22HIV%22&rd=r1&fr=yfp-t-101&u=www.naturalcuresforhiv.com/&w=indonesia+cure+hiv&d=R2w_50xISyxs&icp=1&.intl=sg

I've contacted the webmaster by the name of Robert Chester and he told me that I will be cured after the treatment as long as I follow exactly the doc's instructions. Too good to be true?

Just wanna share this piece of info

Thanks :P


Offline komnaes

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Re: Treatment in Bali, Indonesia?
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2009, 01:41:22 AM »
Too good to be true?

That's taken from this website:

"Contrary to popular belief, AIDS is not new and is not a disease. AIDS is a new name given by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) to a collection of 29 familiar illnesses and conditions including yeast infection, herpes, diarrhea, some pneumonias, certain cancers, salmonella, and tuberculosis. These illnesses are called AIDS only when they occur in a person who also has protective disease fighting proteins or antibodies that are thought to be associated with HIV."

Other than being total denialist bullshit it's NOT legal to enter Indonesia if you're HIV positive. How fun it would be for the authority to just go in there and round up all the foreign participants for convenient deportation.

(Modified to Add)

Echolad - I notice that you're from Singapore and 3 out of 4 posts of you so far are all about those voodoo alternative/denialist "healing". Are you even HIV positive? What are you doing here?
« Last Edit: October 20, 2009, 01:45:39 AM by komnaes »
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
Dec 12 CD=532 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
May 13 CD=567 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
Jan 14 CD=521 (21%)/VL=UD(<50)

Offline echolad

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Re: Treatment in Bali, Indonesia?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2009, 10:42:43 AM »
i wish I am not HIV positive

Offline elf

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Re: Treatment in Bali, Indonesia?
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2009, 12:24:59 PM »
We should take a trip to Samoa and taste that plant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostratin
« Last Edit: October 20, 2009, 12:29:45 PM by elf »
Let's have a Kiki!

Offline Allentownboy

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Re: Treatment in Bali, Indonesia?
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2009, 12:32:59 PM »
Echolad, that link sounds more like a spa weekend than a cure for anything other than stress.  :-[

Where do people come up with this crapola?
Sept 22 2009 @ 1:49PM Positive Diagnosis - PCP, CD4 49, VL 75,000
Oct 15 2009 Started on Lexiva,Truvada, Norvir, Isentress
Oct 22 2009 Learned my CD4 percentage is 1.9% - not too good...

Offline komnaes

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Re: Treatment in Bali, Indonesia?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2009, 12:17:16 AM »
Hey Echolad, I wish you didn't have it too.

I guess it's considered good etiquette to give a little intro about yourself before posting in the forums. Not necessary, but it would stop folks like me that can be a pain up the butt to ask that "are you positive" question...

The website you linked here is obviously a denialist site, regarding of what they sell. I am sure a week of massages and good foods in Bali can do me some good, but it's not a cure. By the way, denialists mean people that don't accept the science of HIV causing AIDS; and what concerns me more is that Indonesia is still a very conservative country. I am sure a lot of us HIV folks still travel there for pleasure, business, etc, the fact is the country bans our entry, and there is this "clinic" openly offering "cure" to foreigners who should not be there legally?
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
Dec 12 CD=532 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
May 13 CD=567 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
Jan 14 CD=521 (21%)/VL=UD(<50)

Offline sdguyloveslife

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Re: Treatment in Bali, Indonesia?
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2009, 02:20:15 PM »

I've contacted the webmaster by the name of Robert Chester and he told me that I will be cured after the treatment as long as I follow exactly the doc's instructions. Too good to be true?


To me, the real tragedy is that you actually believe in this and even posed the question to the rest of us on the board. 

This is just a suggestion, but you ought to consider educating yourself on your HIV-positive status and what that means, because it's obvious you don't have a clue what it's doing to your body.  For starters, there's a wealth of information on this site - so, you don't even need to buy a book, just start with the headers at the top of the homepage "All About HIV" and "Treatment."
Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

 


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