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Offline atxpozguy

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Swine Flu vaccine
« on: October 01, 2009, 10:45:49 PM »
My PCP told me at my last visit that I should not get the Swine Flu shot because it's a live virus. I take what my doctor tells me very seriously, but other people say I should get it. I get the regular flu shot along with the other booster shots, from my PCP.

Anyone have any thought about this, the swine flu vaccine?http://

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Offline GNYC09

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2009, 11:00:23 PM »
That is very interesting.  In my case, my PCP (ID Specialist) recommended that I get vaccinated as soon as the vaccine becomes available.  It is a live virus but I don't know what this means for folks with compromised immune systems.  Here is what Wikipedia says about live vaccines:

"Vaccines containing live, attenuated virus microorganisms - these are live micro-organisms that have been cultivated under conditions that disable their virulent properties, or which use closely-related but less dangerous organisms to produce a broad immune response. They typically provoke more durable immunological responses and are the preferred type for healthy adults. Examples include yellow fever, measles, rubella, and mumps. The live Mycobacterium tuberculosis vaccine developed by Calmette and Guťrin is not made of a contagious strain, but contains a virulently modified strain called "BCG" used to elicit immunogenicity to the vaccine."

(Wow, I didn't know there was a MAC vaccine...)

Offline weasel

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2009, 12:35:34 AM »
The V.A. in Saint Louis   told me as soon as it comes in they will  call me !

  I am going to take my I.D.  doctors advice and GET  the shot !

  I  would rather get it as a controlled thing rather than being sneezed on at wal-mart  :o


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Offline rondrond

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2009, 01:37:51 AM »

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/hiv_flu.htm

As far as I can tell, there is a recommendation, if you have HIV to get the Swine Flu Vaccine. I was not aware that there were two shots: and two different 'strains'? H1N1 and novel H1N1. This was a first for me.

I was told at my last appointment that when it came in, I would be getting it. 

 
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Offline J.R.E.

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2009, 06:53:11 AM »
Hi ,

I had the regular flu shot, just about 24 hours ago. I am going to asking my doctor about this, on my next visit and get his reaction.


Take care----Ray
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Offline RapidRod

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 07:13:27 AM »
Yes people that have HIV/AIDS should not get the live virus shots. The other HINI vaccines will be available for HIV/AIDS patients apx. 3 weeks after the live virus is released.

Offline veritas

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2009, 08:30:16 AM »

atx,

If someone is HIV+, they should probably get the flu shot. The shot they should receive is the deactivated virus injection, not the live virus mist as RapidRod posted. Here:

http://aids.about.com/od/otherconditions/qt/highrisk.htm

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Offline edfu

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2009, 08:48:38 AM »
The vaccines for both the regular seasonal flu and for H1N1 flu are of two types:

1.  an injection, via needle, with inactivated virus
2.  a nasal spray, with live but weakened virus

Those with HIV should definitely get both vaccines, but they should get ONLY the injected type, with inactivated virus.  They should NOT get the nasal-spray vaccine for either of the two flus.   
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Offline marc1236

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2009, 02:33:02 PM »
I asked my doctor if I should get the swine Flu vaccine when I saw him last week.My hiv doctor laughed at me and said."Do you know how many people have died of swine flu in the world? 500.Do you know how many people have died of the flu in the world?338 thousand.He said I could get the regular flu shot now.I said no.

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2009, 04:37:36 PM »
The issue isn't necessarily whether or not you would die from the flu in determining whether or not to get a flu shot.  Jebus.
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Offline edfu

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2009, 05:03:23 PM »
I got the flu in early October last year, a month before I was scheduled to get flu vaccination.  I ended up with having to get chest X-rays and with bronchitis.  It took me over a month to recover, and my CD4's declined by over 200.   
"No one will ever be free so long as there are pestilences."--Albert Camus, "The Plague"

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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2009, 12:22:18 PM »
Meanwhile I've had a flu shot every year since I was diagnosed, and haven't gotten the flu a single time.  I'm not about to touch all of those handles and polls in a subway car and run around willy nilly without having had a flu shot.

I've gotten tons of upper respiratory infections, but that's not the same as the flu, plus I've gotten those easily since I was a child so there's not much I can do about it.
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Offline atxpozguy

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2009, 01:14:21 AM »
I saw my PCP this afternoon, for another issue, which she confirmed, I reference the flu and swine flu, persons who have been diagnosed with AIDS are get the injection of both the flu and swine flu.

The safe swine flu injections will not be ready for use, no later than November10, 2009

For what when to see my doctor was right on the money, a respiratory infection, which will add 4 bactim tablets to my pill box. After three lengthily battles with Pneumocystis Pneumonia (PCP), my lungs are scared  http://

 
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Offline J.R.E.

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2009, 03:34:24 PM »
I just got off the phone, with my doctors office.  I mentioned the fact, that we have now signed up for the H1N1 at work. ( Still not certain as to when we will get it, but I am sure it will be shortly.) I signed up for it this past Monday the 12th.

I asked if it was OK to get it.  The answer "yes".  I also mentioned that I had just received, the annual flu shot on October 1st, and if there was any problem, having both vaccines.  the answer "No"

So, I am just going to wait, and see who gets it first.  My doctors office, or my workplace.


Ray

« Last Edit: October 15, 2009, 07:32:51 PM by J.R.E. »
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http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

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Diagnosed positive in 1985,.. In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started on  HAART on October 24th, 2003.

 As of 12/10/14,  t-cells are at 350,  Previous 8/25/14--- 402/ Viral load remains <40

 Current % is at 13% / Previous 8/25/14 11%

  
 63 years young.

Offline BT65

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2009, 11:34:38 AM »
I'm supposed to call my doc's office Monday to see if they have the H1N1 flu vaccines in.  These will be the "dead" virus.  I'm going to try to get a regular flu shot this afternoon.  When I was at my doc's Monday, they were out.  I'm going to try a CVS, and hopefully will get there before they run out.
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Offline HOTDAD4YGR

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2009, 01:43:35 PM »
I received my H1N1 two days ago, been poz for 25 years. No reaction what so ever. better safe than sorry. Hopefully another disease I will build up an immunity too

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Swine Flu vaccine
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2009, 03:01:55 PM »
I got my regular flu shot yesterday afternoon.  Evidently my HIV clinic is meeting with "the city" (I assume the health department) on Friday and should know Monday when the H1N1 shots will be available.

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