Quantcast

Subscribe to:
POZ magazine
E-newsletters
Join POZ: Facebook MySpace Twitter Pinterest
Tumblr Google+ Flickr MySpace
POZ Personals
Sign In / Join
Username:
Password:
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
April 20, 2014, 05:20:58 PM

Login with username, password and session length


Members
Stats
  • Total Posts: 620554
  • Total Topics: 46756
  • Online Today: 273
  • Online Ever: 585
  • (January 07, 2014, 02:31:47 PM)
Users Online

Welcome


Welcome to the POZ/AIDSmeds Community Forums, a round-the-clock discussion area for people with HIV/AIDS, their friends/family/caregivers, and others concerned about HIV/AIDS.  Click on the links below to browse our various forums; scroll down for a glance at the most recent posts; or join in the conversation yourself by registering on the left side of this page.

Privacy Warning:  Please realize that these forums are open to all, and are fully searchable via Google and other search engines. If you are HIV positive and disclose this in our forums, then it is almost the same thing as telling the whole world (or at least the World Wide Web). If this concerns you, then do not use a username or avatar that are self-identifying in any way. We do not allow the deletion of anything you post in these forums, so think before you post.

  • The information shared in these forums, by moderators and members, is designed to complement, not replace, the relationship between an individual and his/her own physician.

  • All members of these forums are, by default, not considered to be licensed medical providers. If otherwise, users must clearly define themselves as such.

  • Forums members must behave at all times with respect and honesty. Posting guidelines, including time-out and banning policies, have been established by the moderators of these forums. Click here for “Am I Infected?” posting guidelines. Click here for posting guidelines pertaining to all other POZ/AIDSmeds community forums.

  • We ask all forums members to provide references for health/medical/scientific information they provide, when it is not a personal experience being discussed. Please provide hyperlinks with full URLs or full citations of published works not available via the Internet. Additionally, all forums members must post information which are true and correct to their knowledge.

  • Product advertisement—including links; banners; editorial content; and clinical trial, study or survey participation—is strictly prohibited by forums members unless permission has been secured from POZ.

To change forums navigation language settings, click here (members only), Register now

Para cambiar sus preferencias de los foros en español, haz clic aquí (sólo miembros), Regístrate ahora

Finished Reading This? You can collapse this or any other box on this page by clicking the symbol in each box.

Author Topic: Go get her Barney... !  (Read 10303 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline J.R.E.

  • Member
  • Posts: 6,964
  • Joined Dec-2003 Living positive, since 1985.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2009, 07:56:32 AM by J.R.E. »
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of DEC 9th, 2013,  t-cells are at 437 Viral load  <40 .

 Current % is at 16% (L)

  
 62 years young.

Offline David_CA

  • Member
  • Posts: 3,232
  • Joined: March 2006
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009, 08:37:29 AM »
LOL I thought his answer was pretty funny and very appropriate!  I've got to say that I feel somewhat embarrassed for her, though; her stupidity is now where it can be viewed by all.  I guess it should serve as a reminder to not look like an ass when the situation is being documented.
Black Friday 03-03-2006
03-23-06 CD4 359 @27.4% VL 75,938
06-01-06 CD4 462 @24.3% VL > 100,000
08-15-06 CD4 388 @22.8% VL >  "
10-21-06 CD4 285 @21.9% VL >  "
  Atripla started 12-01-2006
01-08-07 CD4 429 @26.8% VL 1872!
05-08-07 CD4 478 @28.1% VL 740
08-03-07 CD4 509 @31.8% VL 370
11-06-07 CD4 570 @30.0% VL 140
02-21-08 CD4 648 @32.4% VL 600
05-19-08 CD4 695 @33.1% VL < 48 undetectable!
08-21-08 CD4 725 @34.5%
11-11-08 CD4 672 @39.5%
02-11-09 CD4 773 @36.8%
05-11-09 CD4 615 @36.2%
08-19-09 CD4 770 @38.5%
11-19-09 CD4 944 @33.7%
02-17-10 CD4 678 @39.9%  
06-03-10 CD4 768 @34.9%
09-21-10 CD4 685 @40.3%
01-10-11 CD4 908 @36.3%
05-23-11 CD4 846 @36.8% VL 80
02-13-12 CD4 911 @41.4% VL<20
You must be the change you want to see in the world.  Mahatma Gandhi

Online Joe K

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 3,187
  • 30 Years Poz
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009, 04:06:59 PM »
What's saddest is that this woman will now become a cheerleader for Republicans, because Barney was so "mean" to her.  She has no idea of what he was saying and it's apparent she's about as sharp as a marble.  When you can only spew pablum, fed to you by others, you have to just know that eventually you will get caught and when you do, it won't be pretty.  For her to compare health care reform with Nazi Germany is pure insanity and Barney would have had a better exchange with her dining room table.
Life is what happens, when you are busy making other plans.

Though you may be only one person in the entire world, to one person, you may be the entire world.

I wish to become half the man, that my dog thinks I am.

Remember me with simple acts of kindness and I will live forever.

Offline skeebo1969

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,667
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2009, 04:40:04 PM »



  No sweety the topic is not mental health reform.....   bet she's good in bed though!
I despise the song Love is in the Air, you should too.

Offline bocker3

  • Member
  • Posts: 3,262
  • You gotta enjoy life......
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2009, 06:18:42 PM »
I think Barney has some explaining to do -- How insulting -- how does he think all the dining room tables in the country now feel?   ;D

This sort of person is truly unable to form a rational thought or take part in a logical debate -- he definitely had the right approach.

Mike
Atripla - Started 12/05
Reyataz/Norvir - Added 6/06
Labs - Pre-Meds
Sep05 T=350/25% VL98,559
Nov05 288/18%  47,564
Current Labs
May2013 691/31% <20

Offline RapidRod

  • Member
  • Posts: 15,193
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2009, 07:34:47 PM »
The old saying goes, "Don't bite the had that feeds you."

Offline bocker3

  • Member
  • Posts: 3,262
  • You gotta enjoy life......
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2009, 10:17:49 PM »
The old saying goes, "Don't bite the had that feeds you."

 ???  ???
Atripla - Started 12/05
Reyataz/Norvir - Added 6/06
Labs - Pre-Meds
Sep05 T=350/25% VL98,559
Nov05 288/18%  47,564
Current Labs
May2013 691/31% <20

Offline GNYC09

  • Member
  • Posts: 702
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2009, 10:32:20 PM »
This video is CLASSIC!  I want to see more ass whooping like the one Barney Frank gave.  Two great vids from Mr. Frank in a month - the man is on a roll...

Offline Merlin

  • Member
  • Posts: 643
  • As My WILL, So MOTE It Be !
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2009, 06:54:52 PM »
Barney is as his usual brilliant self.  :-*
The girl sadly looks like she just got back from a beachfront holiday in the Sahara and desperately needs a soda from the mirage in her mind. :D
I'll leave Hatred to those not strong enough to Love.

                            +++

Believe & The Power Of The Mind Transforms.
Make It Happen...

                            +++

I blame them for nothing.
I forgive them for everything.

---->> Mary J. Blige on dysfuctional parents

Offline mecch

  • Member
  • Posts: 10,738
  • red pill? or blue pill?
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2009, 07:43:30 PM »
Really belongs in the annals of history, for this event.
ďFrom each, according to his ability; to each, according to his needĒ 1875 K Marx

Offline OneTampa

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,034
  • "Butterflies are free."
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2009, 09:27:45 PM »
Barney was "frank" and "fierce"!  And yes, he did it!

By the way, hello everyone!

Will post a catch up later.
"He is my oldest child. The shy and retiring one over there with the Haitian headdress serving pescaŪto frito."

Offline randym431

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,106
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2009, 07:22:55 AM »
Sorry, but I have to post this again.

I believe that lady in the town hall was part of the Lyndon LaRouche gang. They always try to link Obama to Hitler. They are a pretty nutty group of nutjobs. I think there also is a link to the John Burch Society and the Lyndon LaRouche followers. Both groups believe in some crazy ideas, just enough to be dangerous. If Im not mistaken, their people are also the ones bringing-wearing the guns to Obama healthcare events. These are the people the NRA protects.

There is no reason and no real connection to reform and these crazies coming out of the woodwork.
Its just their chance to take advantage of an opportunity. Obama, a black president and government. Both of which they will not tolerate.
Its not healthcare, its just their chance to wear guns in public, and link Obama to Hitler, in protest of their anti government beliefs. Actually, it goes back to Reagan. Not the 1980's Reagan, but the 1960's Reagan "American Medical Association" spokesman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FzNTB1qtFA

The lady at the town hall, guns in public, the John Burch Society, the Lyndon LaRouche gang and the 1960's Reagan. They are all linked. And dare I say.... many republicans. At least... many republicans, and the Rush Limbaugh's, have found an odd-fellow relationship. The Lyndon LaRouche gang can use the town halls as an outlet, and the republicans welcome the anti Obama policy ranting.
This odd fellow relationship is very dangerous for the republicans to align themselves with.
If it backfires, and it will, that could destroy the republican party as we know it.

Offline RapidRod

  • Member
  • Posts: 15,193
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2009, 07:36:10 AM »
Sorry, but I have to post this again.

I believe that lady in the town hall was part of the Lyndon LaRouche gang. They always try to link Obama to Hitler. They are a pretty nutty group of nutjobs. I think there also is a link to the John Burch Society and the Lyndon LaRouche followers. Both groups believe in some crazy ideas, just enough to be dangerous. If Im not mistaken, their people are also the ones bringing-wearing the guns to Obama healthcare events. These are the people the NRA protects.

There is no reason and no real connection to reform and these crazies coming out of the woodwork.
Its just their chance to take advantage of an opportunity. Obama, a black president and government. Both of which they will not tolerate.
Its not healthcare, its just their chance to wear guns in public, and link Obama to Hitler, in protest of their anti government beliefs. Actually, it goes back to Reagan. Not the 1980's Reagan, but the 1960's Reagan "American Medical Association" spokesman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FzNTB1qtFA

The lady at the town hall, guns in public, the John Burch Society, the Lyndon LaRouche gang and the 1960's Reagan. They are all linked. And dare I say.... many republicans. At least... many republicans, and the Rush Limbaugh's, have found an odd-fellow relationship. The Lyndon LaRouche gang can use the town halls as an outlet, and the republicans welcome the anti Obama policy ranting.
This odd fellow relationship is very dangerous for the republicans to align themselves with.
If it backfires, and it will, that could destroy the republican party as we know it.
Give me a break.

Online Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 23,569
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2009, 11:58:46 AM »
Give me a break.

No, it's true that she was part of the Lyndon LaRouche movement.  It was in several MSM news reports.  However, the people strapping on guns to their legs and showing up are part of some different group, and at least one has been shown to have a connection to a 90's militia group.
"Iíve slept with enough men to know that Iím not gay"

Offline RapidRod

  • Member
  • Posts: 15,193
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2009, 04:47:14 PM »
How about Obama's plants and the mass emails?

Online Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 23,569
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2009, 05:18:54 PM »
If you're moving the goalposts and desire an honest discussion, perhaps you should provide some information about what exactly you're referring to, Roddles.
"Iíve slept with enough men to know that Iím not gay"

Offline physicsguy

  • Member
  • Posts: 59
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2009, 05:31:34 PM »
How about Obama's plants and the mass emails?
Where are these plants?  And are you seriously comparing mass emails dispelling ultra-right-wing lies to people who show up at town halls to scream about "watering the tree of liberty" and compare the president to Hitler?

Offline Dachshund

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,921
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2009, 05:38:13 PM »
Now this would make a great youtube moment. A conservative mo attends a townhall and gets the chance to speak. They spout off the usual right wing Obama bashing talking points to the applause and cheers of the frenzied crowd. Delighted by the response they close by telling the crowd and "oh by the way I'm gay and have da aids, probably caught it from too many pee-pees up the old pooper. Thank God I have healthcare. Anyone want to catch a beer after the meeting?" It would be all over cable.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2009, 05:43:55 PM by Dachshund »

Online Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 23,569
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2009, 05:41:51 PM »
tee hee
"Iíve slept with enough men to know that Iím not gay"

Offline RapidRod

  • Member
  • Posts: 15,193
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2009, 06:53:30 PM »
Where are these plants?  And are you seriously comparing mass emails dispelling ultra-right-wing lies to people who show up at town halls to scream about "watering the tree of liberty" and compare the president to Hitler?
Yeah, you guys will fall for anything. Just like what he was going to do for all the gays. Now there is a big joke, what has he done for the gay community? Nothing, nor is he going to. Universal health care? No such thing. It's called affordable health care, if the name doesn't change again before the first of the year.

Online Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 23,569
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2009, 07:20:42 PM »
Details on these "plants" Roddles.  Put up or shut up.
"Iíve slept with enough men to know that Iím not gay"

Offline J.R.E.

  • Member
  • Posts: 6,964
  • Joined Dec-2003 Living positive, since 1985.
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2009, 07:24:36 PM »


If we hurry, we can all go over to Rapidrod's, for an intervention and possible deprogramming.

Never mind, it's too late...


Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of DEC 9th, 2013,  t-cells are at 437 Viral load  <40 .

 Current % is at 16% (L)

  
 62 years young.

Offline Dachshund

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,921
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2009, 07:54:53 PM »
You gay guys are so gullible. I bet you numnutz believed there were WMD's.

Offline Dachshund

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,921
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2009, 08:01:23 PM »
Be careful Ray cuz Obama is gonna put everyone in a communist, facist, socialist, pragmatist, organist, grocerylist, HitlerStalinMaoPolPotCastroMussoliniHillaryCare style reeducation camp.

Offline J.R.E.

  • Member
  • Posts: 6,964
  • Joined Dec-2003 Living positive, since 1985.
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2009, 08:56:49 PM »
Be careful Ray cuz Obama is gonna put everyone in a communist, facist, socialist, pragmatist, organist, grocerylist, HitlerStalinMaoPolPotCastroMussoliniHillaryCare style reeducation camp.

They will have to pry my longwetvibratingdildo out of my hands before I let that happen   LOL   :D


Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of DEC 9th, 2013,  t-cells are at 437 Viral load  <40 .

 Current % is at 16% (L)

  
 62 years young.

Offline randym431

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,106
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2009, 08:57:21 PM »
Quote
If we hurry, we can all go over to Rapidrod's, for an intervention and possible deprogramming.

Never mind, it's too late...

Ray

I'll Drive   ;D

But while I agree 100% with Obama that reform is needed now, and a government "option" is the only way to control the massive "healthcare for profit" industry, I have to admit it has crossed my mind on timing as to Obama. I mean, Ted Kennedy is very ill. He won't be around much longer, either in the flesh or in the senate. So it has occurred to me that Obama passing real healthcare reform, Ted Kennedy's life long fight, would be a nice victory to hand Ted in his last days. So in some part, I wonder if Kennedy's condition was one major motivating factors.
But true or not, doesn't matter cause we do need this reform now. Right now.
We have seen that delaying, as they did by missing the August deadline they sought, just gave republicans an opening to conjour up lies and fear. The more we wait on reform, the more dirty little tricks republicans will come up with.
I'd personally LOVE to just see the democrats to get their act together, and do it all on their own.
You would see Obama's poll ratings soar overnight, and huge gains by democrats in the next elections.
Why? Because regardless of what the news media covers, people really want this reform to happen.

Offline physicsguy

  • Member
  • Posts: 59
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2009, 09:29:17 PM »
Quote
I'd personally LOVE to just see the democrats to get their act together, and do it all on their own.
Isn't that what every progressive would like to see?  As it is now, it seems the Democrats could have 99 seats in the senate and would still be unable to pass anything meaningful because they'd be trying to strike a "bipartisan agreement" with the lone Republican.

There's one thing the Republicans and Bush especially were great at:  getting things done.  They governed like they had a massive majority and the nation on their side even when they didn't.

Offline bocker3

  • Member
  • Posts: 3,262
  • You gotta enjoy life......
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2009, 10:28:24 PM »
I'd personally LOVE to just see the democrats to get their act together, and do it all on their own.
You would see Obama's poll ratings soar overnight, and huge gains by democrats in the next elections.
Why? Because regardless of what the news media covers, people really want this reform to happen.

If only this were true -- but I think what we need is real leadership and politicians who are willing to lose an election in order to do what they were elected to do.  Forget the polls and the hand-wringing and do what is required
Why do I say this... because most Americans want change, so long as it does not negatively impact them.  For health care, that means most people have insurance that is serving them well or at least well enough and don't want to risk that. You constantly hear people saying that we should "throw the bums out" in Congress, because they are all self-serviing -- yet we continue to see the power of incumbency.  You see -- people think that they are all bums -- except for theirs.

People THINK this should be easy -- and in a perfect world, it would be.  However, this isn't a perfect world and this is going to be very hard -- and as I've said repeatedly, we all have to be prepared (and accepting) of incremental change.  Changes that will keep us heading down the right path to a destination that we need to get to -- if we insist on getting there in one step, we go nowhere.

Mike
Atripla - Started 12/05
Reyataz/Norvir - Added 6/06
Labs - Pre-Meds
Sep05 T=350/25% VL98,559
Nov05 288/18%  47,564
Current Labs
May2013 691/31% <20

Offline Ann

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 27,947
  • It just is, OK?
    • Num is sum qui mentiar tibi?
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2009, 10:55:06 PM »

 Yeah, you guys will fall for anything.


Oh FFS I'm falling down laughing at this point. Rod, on one hand I love you to bits, on the other hand, ... oh dear. You've been drinking the kool-aid, dear, haven't you?
Condoms are a girl's best friend

Condom and Lube Info  



"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline skeebo1969

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,667
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2009, 11:52:42 PM »
You've been drinking the kool-aid, dear, haven't you?

Being that he lives in the woods I hope he's not using well water to make his kool-aid again. 

I despise the song Love is in the Air, you should too.

Offline RapidRod

  • Member
  • Posts: 15,193
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2009, 04:33:09 AM »
Oh FFS I'm falling down laughing at this point. Rod, on one hand I love you to bits, on the other hand, ... oh dear. You've been drinking the kool-aid, dear, haven't you?
And the same goes here Ann.  I always love the two cents the people throw in that don't even live in the US and don't vote here in the US.

Offline Cliff

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,645
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2009, 04:44:10 AM »
There are 4 million Americans living abroad (excluding military).  You don't give up your right as a US citizen just because you live outside the country.  US citizens, regardless of where they live, have every right to participate in decisions being made in the country (and are still allowed to vote)!

Offline RapidRod

  • Member
  • Posts: 15,193
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2009, 04:55:32 AM »
Wasn't said at all was it Cliff? YOU don't use the US healthcare system either now do you Cliff. Enough said..

Offline Cliff

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,645
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2009, 05:09:31 AM »
Actually Rod, I do.  I still have my US health insurance and used it the last time I was there for check up.  And I intend on repatriating back to the US, which means I will be on whatever system is settled on.  Oh and I also still file annual taxes to the US and pay money into the system.  Do you?

Offline RapidRod

  • Member
  • Posts: 15,193
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2009, 05:16:16 AM »
Actually Rod, I do.  I still have my US health insurance and used it the last time I was there for check up.  And I intend on repatriating back to the US, which means I will be on whatever system is settled on.  Oh and I also still file annual taxes to the US and pay money into the system.  Do you?
Yes I do Cliff I still have to pay taxes.

Offline Dachshund

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,921
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2009, 07:55:31 AM »
we all have to be prepared (and accepting) of incremental change. 

Mike

Does your incremental change include the fifty million of us that have no health insurance? You're naive to think that even incremental change is possible when one side is intractable in it's efforts to stonewall, which in effect will defeat any meaningful healthcare policy. Obama campaigned on healthcare, and the American people overwhelmingly elected Democrats to get healthcare done this year.

Offline mecch

  • Member
  • Posts: 10,738
  • red pill? or blue pill?
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2009, 08:14:35 AM »
Damn right he did!
And its time for Obama to stop the bi-partisan bullcrap and get with the Dems and just do what we want. There is NO need for republicans whatsoever, neither in the House nor the Senate.  What is this nonsense bi-partisanship.....  
What will be more interesting is to WIN the war.  
Republicans BELIEVE the lies, its death panels, and its assistance to undeserving illegal aliens and lazy unemployed dimwits.  They BELIEVE free-market crap and have NO dissonance about the rest of the rich countries actually taking care of all its citizens..  That argument falls on deaf ears.  
Win the war, screw the Republicans, from the joe republican who might be forgivin his bias and ignorance, to the Republican powerbrokers, who are playing politics at the expense of the public's well-being.  Its HIDEOUS.  Screw them.  Just pass a bill and get on with the next policy already.  We ain't gonna get to make Obama squirm about Don't Ask Don't Tell if this fails.  Maybe if we win, he'll get his balls back and come through on the whole agenda.  Clock is ticking.....

And shame on the Democrats!  You know, if you are the stronger team, and now the game is starting, you don't pass the ball to the other team, or "go easy".  You score score score.  The weasly weak Republicans in Congress are NOT stupid and will exploit any opportunity given to them. Obviously.  Geez, didn't any of these Congressmen play team sports.  You shake hands AFTER the game, after you've obliterated them.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2009, 08:22:00 AM by mecch »
ďFrom each, according to his ability; to each, according to his needĒ 1875 K Marx

Offline RapidRod

  • Member
  • Posts: 15,193
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2009, 08:16:12 AM »
Does your incremental change include the fifty million of us that have no health insurance? You're naive to think that even incremental change is possible when one side is intractable in it's efforts to stonewall, which in effect will defeat any meaningful healthcare policy. Obama campaigned on healthcare, and the American people overwhelmingly elected Democrats to get healthcare done this year.
No where did Obama say they they would get it done this year unless your are thinking Obama's term is going to be just a year.

Offline skeebo1969

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,667
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2009, 08:19:32 AM »
No where did Obama say they they would get it done this year unless your are thinking Obama's term is going to be just a year.

If it's just a year is it still considered a term? 
I despise the song Love is in the Air, you should too.

Offline Dachshund

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,921
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2009, 08:39:50 AM »
No where did Obama say they they would get it done this year unless your are thinking Obama's term is going to be just a year.

Oh Rod, just another example of your total lack of reading comprehension skills. Maybe Bush can stop by and read My Pet Goat  to you.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2009, 09:33:45 AM by Dachshund »

Online Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 23,569
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2009, 09:17:47 AM »
Details on these "plants" Roddles.  Put up or shut up.

Gonna back up the assertion that you made, Roddles or not?
"Iíve slept with enough men to know that Iím not gay"

Offline J.R.E.

  • Member
  • Posts: 6,964
  • Joined Dec-2003 Living positive, since 1985.
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2009, 09:30:48 AM »
No where did Obama say they they would get it done this year unless your are thinking Obama's term is going to be just a year.

This is Obama's quote  " healthcare reform can not wait, it must not wait, and it will not wait ANOTHER year"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnpzzxPupvQ

Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of DEC 9th, 2013,  t-cells are at 437 Viral load  <40 .

 Current % is at 16% (L)

  
 62 years young.

Offline Ann

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 27,947
  • It just is, OK?
    • Num is sum qui mentiar tibi?
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2009, 09:53:54 AM »

 And the same goes here Ann.  I always love the two cents the people throw in that don't even live in the US and don't vote here in the US.


Well, maybe so, Rodney, but I still have family who live in the States - and plenty of friends too - and I'm concerned about their well-being and access to affordable healthcare. Hell, I'm concerned about your  well-being and access to affordable healthcare too, along with every other forum member who lives in the States. I'm still an American, so is my daughter, (and we both have the passports to prove it) and last I knew, it wasn't against the law to have an opinion on what's going on in the land of my birth. :)

Ann
Condoms are a girl's best friend

Condom and Lube Info  



"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Online Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 23,569
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2009, 10:01:13 AM »
Oh come on Ann... he's talking about the Palinesque "Real Americans"!
"Iíve slept with enough men to know that Iím not gay"

Online Joe K

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 3,187
  • 30 Years Poz
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2009, 10:58:14 AM »
I never thought that a political thread could be so much fun. What I still find so frustrating is that Republicans can only say "no" this or that will not work, but they offer no ALTERNATIVES at all. They send their minions to the town hall meetings to compare Obama with Hitler, which adds absolutely nothing to any debate on health care and then just sit back and watch the resulting mess. I also find it very condescending when anyone brings in other issues to the health care debate, like gay rights, that have nothing to do with the subject at hand.

Granted Obama has not moved as fast as I would like on some gay issues, but at least the man is not trying to alter the Constitution to relegate gays to permanent second class citizens. Sure can't say that about the Republicans or our former shrub and that's part of the reason that the Republicans got their ass handed to them this past election, because they are hopelessly out of touch with "real" Americans. No, not the Palin kool-aid kind, but the millions who either have no health insurance, or it is so limited as to force many of them into bankruptcy due to health care costs.

However, what I find insulting is anyone suggesting that just because I don't live in America I should have no say in what MY COUNTRY does in terms of affordable health care. It is this holier than thou attitude that makes some Americans look like real jerks in the eyes of the world. So let me share with you how my Canadian friends see this issue. They thought that Americans were tired of the caring for only the rich attitude of Republicans and that is why Americans kicked them to the curb. They don't understand (nor do I) how Democrats have total control of Congress and the White House and insist on working with a bunch of old white guys that are so out of touch with the country.

What we see here, is not an effort at bipartisanship in formulating policy, but total obstruction of any legislation that would benefit millions of Americans. Now part of this confusion comes from the Canadian system of government, parliamentary, which provides for a vote of no confidence in any government, which then forces the formation of a majority government, or disbanding the current regime and calling for new elections. I don't understand all of it yet, but at least we can get rid of leaders who are dishonest or whatever and not have to wait for four years to toss them out on their ears.

I know that the health care issue in America is being thwarted because far too many "Americans" will not accept Obama as president and they do not care what the issue is, because no matter what it is, they want Obama and America to fail. If I were still in the States I would be contacting every Republican and telling them that if they have nothing constructive to add to the debate, then shut the fuck up. Republicans had their chance the last eight years and look where we are now. But rather than work at fixing our health care issue, all they can do is whine and pout and say no.

So they had their chance and now it is time for Democrats to simply steamroll right over them and pass legislation, that has a public option and the teeth to start taming health care costs. Anybody who would argue against affordable health care for ALL AMERICANS is anything but, a real American.
Life is what happens, when you are busy making other plans.

Though you may be only one person in the entire world, to one person, you may be the entire world.

I wish to become half the man, that my dog thinks I am.

Remember me with simple acts of kindness and I will live forever.

Offline Ann

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 27,947
  • It just is, OK?
    • Num is sum qui mentiar tibi?
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2009, 12:24:22 PM »

Oh come on Ann... he's talking about the Palinesque "Real Americans"!


Oh, you mean those Americans who can see Russia from their front porch? Gotcha!


Anybody who would argue against affordable health care for ALL AMERICANS is anything but, a real American.


Bears repeating!
Condoms are a girl's best friend

Condom and Lube Info  



"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline RapidRod

  • Member
  • Posts: 15,193
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2009, 12:37:38 PM »
Oh, you mean those Americans who can see Russia from their front porch? Gotcha!

Bears repeating!
100,000 comedians out of work and look at the jokers we have, isn't it just amazing?

Online Joe K

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 3,187
  • 30 Years Poz
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2009, 12:46:48 PM »
100,000 comedians out of work and look at the jokers we have, isn't it just amazing?

 ??? >:( ??? >:( :o >:( ??? >:( ???

edited to add: This is a discussion about an issue that could help 50 million Americans attain affordable health care and the above is all you have to add?

Maybe you should take my advice to the Republicans.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2009, 01:05:37 PM by killfoile »
Life is what happens, when you are busy making other plans.

Though you may be only one person in the entire world, to one person, you may be the entire world.

I wish to become half the man, that my dog thinks I am.

Remember me with simple acts of kindness and I will live forever.

Offline RapidRod

  • Member
  • Posts: 15,193
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #48 on: August 24, 2009, 02:20:54 PM »
??? >:( ??? >:( :o >:( ??? >:( ???

edited to add: This is a discussion about an issue that could help 50 million Americans attain affordable health care and the above is all you have to add?

Maybe you should take my advice to the Republicans.
Joe can you point out just one post on any of these threads that has been started that said anything about denying healthcare or fixing the system. Maybe you could explain how it went from Universal Healthcare with a public option policy to "affordable" heathcare. Earlier it was said, "I will not sign any bill without the public option policy" and now they've back tracked on that. As for explaining it to any party they first better explain it to the democrats as well as the rest of America. Like AARP which was said they were on board and then they had to back tract on that because what AARP actually were in favor of was fixing the system they were not endorsing the bill as it was in written. 

Online Joe K

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 3,187
  • 30 Years Poz
Re: Go get her Barney... !
« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2009, 02:32:51 PM »
Rod, I never said anything other than if you have nothing concrete to add to the discussion... I also never accused you of anything, but your reply, as I see it, is so much a part of this problem. How does rehashing who said what, further health care reform? All I see is a fight of sound bites, when what should be happening is that all of Congress is debating health care reform and I see anything but happening. I am here advocating for change, when all you can tell me is that change won't work. You say you don't oppose fixing our health care system, so what are your ideas for change?

What I lament here is the lack of any reasonable discussion on how to control health care costs. The opposition to reform can do nothing but recite the same old rhetoric on how nothing will work, without offering an alternative. I can't understand how anyone could be against reform and at some point, you either commit to doing something, mistakes and all, as opposed to doing nothing, which is what many in Congress, from both parties are doing and that will not get us anywhere. Big business will once again dictate health care policy in America and I keep waiting for all Americans, including you to be part of the solution, not a part of the problem.
Life is what happens, when you are busy making other plans.

Though you may be only one person in the entire world, to one person, you may be the entire world.

I wish to become half the man, that my dog thinks I am.

Remember me with simple acts of kindness and I will live forever.

 


Terms of Membership for these forums
 

© 2014 Smart + Strong. All Rights Reserved.   terms of use and your privacy
Smart + Strong® is a registered trademark of CDM Publishing, LLC.